Kingsley's FAQ & Frame Strip & Paint Options

I want to strip and paint a CHEAP frame. There were links to fram
painting info in the FAQ but it seems to be down/gone

I don't want to do a Suzy and buy a heap of gear to paint it so it look
like my options are

1) Sand it down with sandpaper (god no!) and paint it myself (aeroso
can spraypaint)

2) Pay someone to blast it and paint it myself

3) Pay someone to blast it and pay someone to powdercoat i

4) Pay someone to blast it and pay someone to paint i

I think these are in order of escalating cost

Does anyone know what this sort of work will cost retail in Melbourne

Should I stick with paint or give powdercoating a go

The frame is old and heavy but could be made to look really nice with
pro paint job and really BAD with a hippy paint job :

My mate said I should try and get a car resprayer to paint it usin
leftover paint from a car?

Kingsley - Are you still hosting the aus.bicycle FAQ

Thanks for any suggestions! hipp


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hippy wrote:
I want to strip and paint a CHEAP frame. There were links to frame
painting info in the FAQ but it seems to be down/gone?
I don't want to do a Suzy and buy a heap of gear to paint it so it looks
like my options a
1) Sand it down with sandpaper (god no!) and paint it myself (aerosol
can spraypaint).
...snip...
Thanks for any suggestions! hippy


I'm thinking the same thoughts, but my difficulties are somewha
different. I have no fear on the sand and paint the bike myself side o
things, but the disassembly and masking process has me wondering
Specifically, can anyone point me at a resource that lets me know abou
the pitfalls I'm likely to run inbto with regards to pulling apart an
reassembling things like the stem and cranks? I'm an utter noob in thi
regard, so any advice would be much appeciated


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hippy wrote:

....snip.....

1) Sand it down with sandpaper (god no!) and paint it myself (aerosol
can spraypaint).

Paint stripper. Depending on the quality of the original job, it may
take up to 5 coats.

Originally posted by Resoun
Specifically, can anyone point me at a resource that lets me kno
about the pitfalls I'm likely to run inbto with regards to pullin
apart and reassembling things like the stem and cranks

www.sheldonbrown.com has loads of info when it comes t
installing/maintaining bike hardware..

Another question of frame preparation.

What is the best way to remove cable guides and kickstand mounts fro
the Apollo frame? I think the angle grinder might have to come out t
play.. I'll be careful, really I will..

hipp


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Originally posted by Terry Collin
1) Sand it down with sandpaper (god no!) and paint it myself (aeroso
can spraypaint)

Paint stripper. Depending on the quality of the original job, it ma
take up to 5 coats

Yeah, I would apply that before the finer sanding. Coles don't have an
though and all the auto shops were closed when I looked for it. Mayb
Bunnings would have some

Which option would you choose for painting? I think getting an aut
painter would be a nice option, but I need help justifying a paint jo
worth 10x more than the frame

Is powder coating more durable than paint? I'm guessing so.

hipp


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hippy wrote:
I want to strip and paint a CHEAP frame. There were links to frame
painting info in the FAQ but it seems to be down/gone?

I don't want to do a Suzy and buy a heap of gear to paint it so it
looks like my options a

1) Sand it down with sandpaper (god no!) and paint it myself (aerosol
can spraypaint).

I've done this as a kid, the frame is still kicking around under my parents' house, never again. It did keep me off the streets for
quite a few weekends.

snip


2) Pay someone to blast it and paint it myself.

3) Pay someone to blast it and pay someone to powdercoat it

4) Pay someone to blast it and pay someone to paint it

I think these are in order of escalating cost.

snip

I'd chose paint, but not for any really good reason.

Parbs

hippy wrote:

Originally posted by Terry Collins
1) Sand it down with sandpaper (god no!) and paint it myself (aerosol
can spraypaint).

Paint stripper. Depending on the quality of the original job, it may
take up to 5 coats.

Yeah, I would apply that before the finer sanding. Coles don't have any
though and all the auto shops were closed when I looked for it. Maybe
Bunnings would have some?

I get mine from a real hardware store, but yep, Bunnings, etc should
have it.

Basically, I put it on and wait until a fair bit has blistered (~30
minutes) then scrapped and/or wire brushed it off. Wear googles. then I
just repeated it again and again.


Which option would you choose for painting? I think getting an auto
painter would be a nice option, but I need help justifying a paint job
worth 10x more than the frame.

It is absolutely a waste of time asking me about painting. I just slap
some household enamel on my bikes. It horrified the guy that did some
frame mods for me a few decades ago (an apollo III actually), but I've
never had my bike nicked. I was going to uni at the time.


Is powder coating more durable than paint? I'm guessing so..

Unfortunately, the only powder coating I ever had done (for some signs)
came back fscked (pin holes everywhere), so I would strongly suggest
only dealing with a reputable painter.

Originally posted by Terry Collin
Paint stripper. Depending on the quality of the original job, it ma
take up to 5 coats

I get mine from a real hardware store, but yep, Bunnings, et
should have it

They do, but they want $18 for a litre. The guy said I'd need a litre t
strip a bike frame (he was guessing). Sounds like a lot of hardcor
chemicals to remove some paint! Assuming I remember and have time, I'l
call some places tomorrow and see how much it costs to have a fram
blasted clean.. then decide

thanks for your suggestions, hipp


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hippy wrote:
I want to strip and paint a CHEAP frame.
3) Pay someone to blast it and pay someone to powdercoat it


I recomend powdercoat

Gripsport use a good & experienced powdercoat place, not cheap though.
$180, I think

I also heard this place is OK. Call 'em up for a price

Bell Powder Coating 112 Bell St Preston 307
(03) 9484 600


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Originally posted by hippy:

I don't want to do a Suzy and buy a heap of gear to pain

So is being verbed a good thing or a bad thing

Your best cheap bet is to buy some paint stripper. Half a litre or s
will do. Paint it on, leave it a couple of hours, then set to with wir
brush and paint scraper. Wear rubber gloves, as it does reall
interesting things to your skin otherwise

As for painting options, I thoroughly recommend a compressor, paint gun
and some good quality paint, but if I were starving I'd try some of th
enamel spray cans you can get from the hardware store. Steer away fro
car touch-up paint, as it's not very durable and will chip badly

Use a file to take off and stuff you don't want from the frame, rathe
than a grinder. A grinder is liable to get things too hot

Best of luck

Suz


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