VDB admits doping...?

According to sportenkort.dk VDB has admitted to doping.

There is no reference to where the news came from, and I haven't found it on
any other media. I guess it was to be expected that his dog didn't do it
(!), but a rider like VDB saying that there's no way of competing at top
level without doping is quite unusual.

Musseuws secret codes with his vet just makes the story even more crazy.

Is there any confirmation of the above mentioned?

HB

Is there any confirmation of the above mentioned?

Just checked Belgium teletekst and they also mention this. They qoute from Belgium newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws so nothing official.
Statements are about the same: "VDB confessed doping use to investigators", "he told them top-sport is impossible without doping".
They also mention that VDB had all kind of stuff laying around to bypass/fool doping checks. It seems that drips, needles and
syringes were found scattered in his home. They also mention a list with all substances found at 27 februari 2002: growth hormones,
testosteron, clenbuterol, aranesp (latest EPO), morfine, amfetamines, moisture eliminators and four other non described products.
The investigations also seem to show that containers were opened.


"HB" marrone-ALPHA_A-sol.dk wrote in message k...
According to sportenkort.dk VDB has admitted to doping.

There is no reference to where the news came from, and I haven't found it on
any other media. I guess it was to be expected that his dog didn't do it
(!), but a rider like VDB saying that there's no way of competing at top
level without doping is quite unusual.

Musseuws secret codes with his vet just makes the story even more crazy.

Is there any confirmation of the above mentioned?

HB

"HB" marrone-ALPHA_A-sol.dk wrote in message
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According to sportenkort.dk VDB has admitted to doping.

There is no reference to where the news came from, and I haven't found it
on
any other media. I guess it was to be expected that his dog didn't do it
(!), but a rider like VDB saying that there's no way of competing at top
level without doping is quite unusual.

Musseuws secret codes with his vet just makes the story even more crazy.

Is there any confirmation of the above mentioned?


It was a report in the Flemish newspaper "Het laatste niews". It's unusual,
true, but it's probably a strategic retreat to a second line of defense.
Since the police has found eleven illicit products in his home, such as
growth hormones, testosteron, clembuterol, morphine, amphetamine, diuretic,
etc., it's probably no use anymore to continue denying.

Benjo Maso

am I in a time warp here or is this recent news?


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"HB" marrone-ALPHA_A-sol.dk wrote in message
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According to sportenkort.dk VDB has admitted to doping.

There is no reference to where the news came from, and I haven't found
it
on
any other media. I guess it was to be expected that his dog didn't do it
(!), but a rider like VDB saying that there's no way of competing at top
level without doping is quite unusual.

Musseuws secret codes with his vet just makes the story even more crazy.

Is there any confirmation of the above mentioned?


It was a report in the Flemish newspaper "Het laatste niews". It's
unusual,
true, but it's probably a strategic retreat to a second line of defense.
Since the police has found eleven illicit products in his home, such as
growth hormones, testosteron, clembuterol, morphine, amphetamine,
diuretic,
etc., it's probably no use anymore to continue denying.

Benjo Maso

"JTN" wrote in message ...
am I in a time warp here or is this recent news?

It's news because previously it was only his dog that was doping.

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"JTN" wrote in message
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am I in a time warp here or is this recent news?

It's news because previously it was only his dog that was doping.




Dumbass -


That dog story still makes me laugh.


If the authorities come in and find my stash of Pot Belge, I'll be sure to
blame it on my parrot, but it doesn't seem like that excuse will work in the
States.

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"Kevin Delaney" wrote in message
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"JTN" wrote in message
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am I in a time warp here or is this recent news?

It's news because previously it was only his dog that was doping.




Dumbass -


That dog story still makes me laugh.


If the authorities come in and find my stash of Pot Belge, I'll be sure to
blame it on my parrot, but it doesn't seem like that excuse will work in
the
States.

I see the humor, but it is actually an excellent defense. The drugs he
claims were for the dog are very commonly prescribed for dogs. Still, it
looks bad since the connection with the corrupt veterinarian came to light
recently (and now this).

, but a rider like VDB saying that there's no way of competing at top
level without doping is quite unusual.

it's the only way. only someone on a fools errand would try to deny
it.

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"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in
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"Kevin Delaney" wrote in message
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"JTN" wrote in message
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am I in a time warp here or is this recent news?

It's news because previously it was only his dog that was doping.




Dumbass -


That dog story still makes me laugh.


If the authorities come in and find my stash of Pot Belge, I'll be sure
to
blame it on my parrot, but it doesn't seem like that excuse will work in
the
States.

I see the humor, but it is actually an excellent defense. The drugs he
claims were for the dog are very commonly prescribed for dogs. Still, it
looks bad since the connection with the corrupt veterinarian came to light
recently (and now this).

What this and the Museeuw situation illustrate is the truth of what
Dickey V. said when he finally came clean. I think the operative assumption
has to be that everyone at the top level is using dope and probably a whole
lot of wannabes.
It's time for WADA, the UCI and IOC to admit defeat (and in Hein's case
malfeasance, IMO) in the drug wars and let the competitors use anything they
want. Just make certain the riders sign informed consents and set up at
fund for the widows/widowers and orphans.
Think how much fun it will be to see Tammy back in action. I'll bet she
could beat Merckx's Hour Record. ;-)
Gotta go for my ride and swing by the druggist for some caffeine
suppositories. Later.......

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What this and the Museeuw situation illustrate is the truth of what
Dickey V. said when he finally came clean. I think the operative
assumption
has to be that everyone at the top level is using dope and probably a whole
lot of wannabes.
It's time for WADA, the UCI and IOC to admit defeat (and in Hein's case
malfeasance, IMO) in the drug wars and let the competitors use anything
they
want. Just make certain the riders sign informed consents and set up at
fund for the widows/widowers and orphans.
Think how much fun it will be to see Tammy back in action. I'll bet
she
could beat Merckx's Hour Record. ;-)
Gotta go for my ride and swing by the druggist for some caffeine
suppositories. Later.......



Dumbass -

Imagine the freaks we're gonna get when genetic vaccination techniques become
widely available.

Someone can go in and say, "I want the mitochondria of a deer" and they can
change a few genes around and voila! the athlete's mitochondria will suddenly
be 4 times more effective.

The freakish part is that we don't have a full understanding of how all the
genes interact with each other. So the athlete may get that mitochondria, but
he may get some other things he didn't bargain for.

Ever see the movie "The Fly"? Such a thing will be possible.