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Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door



 
 
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  #11  
Old July 11th 20, 12:26 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
Police have been informed.
QUOTE:
Some close passes are closer than others - including the one in this video in which the driver of a horsebox overtook a cyclist so closely that the rider was able to bang on the door as the vehicle passed him.

The incident was filmed last Thursday 2 July on the B4109 Hinckley Road, near Hinckley Junction with the M69 just inside Warwickshire.

It was filmed by road.cc reader Lewis, who said that the "HGV horsebox started to overtake opposite a junction with an oncoming car which the driver forced onto the verge on their side of the road.

"The driver just missed hitting me with the wing (sic) mirror and was close enough for me to reach out and slap on the door."

It's noticeable that the motorist following the horsebox, who will have seen what happened, gave Lewis a lot of space as they overtook.

No-one wants their car damaged by a vandal on a bike, even if it's a
company vehicle.

There is a simple way to avoid that, leave cyclists room as the Highway Code requires.
I wonder how they would feel if a vehicle passed that close when they were riding their horses.

Horses are widely assumed - perhaps erroneously - to be less intelligent
than cyclist humans and so perhaps more likely (or less unlikely) to
react in an unpredictable way to situations and sounds with they are not
familar.

But perhaps that assumption is incorrect.

Do you condemn or condone the driver's action?


Do you take the view that it was deliberate?


Have you watched the video?


Do you take the view that it was deliberate?

And if you do, can you venture a credible opinion as to why it might
have been in anyone's interest for that to be the case?

And what about the thesis that it is reasonable to expect a human to
react in a more considered way than a dumb animal (or don't you agree
with that)?
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  #12  
Old July 11th 20, 01:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
Police have been informed.
QUOTE:
Some close passes are closer than others - including the one in this video in which the driver of a horsebox overtook a cyclist so closely that the rider was able to bang on the door as the vehicle passed him.

The incident was filmed last Thursday 2 July on the B4109 Hinckley Road, near Hinckley Junction with the M69 just inside Warwickshire.

It was filmed by road.cc reader Lewis, who said that the "HGV horsebox started to overtake opposite a junction with an oncoming car which the driver forced onto the verge on their side of the road.

"The driver just missed hitting me with the wing (sic) mirror and was close enough for me to reach out and slap on the door."

It's noticeable that the motorist following the horsebox, who will have seen what happened, gave Lewis a lot of space as they overtook.

No-one wants their car damaged by a vandal on a bike, even if it's a
company vehicle.

There is a simple way to avoid that, leave cyclists room as the Highway Code requires.
I wonder how they would feel if a vehicle passed that close when they were riding their horses.

Horses are widely assumed - perhaps erroneously - to be less intelligent
than cyclist humans and so perhaps more likely (or less unlikely) to
react in an unpredictable way to situations and sounds with they are not
familar.

But perhaps that assumption is incorrect.

Do you condemn or condone the driver's action?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?


Have you watched the video?


Do you take the view that it was deliberate?

And if you do, can you venture a credible opinion as to why it might
have been in anyone's interest for that to be the case?

And what about the thesis that it is reasonable to expect a human to
react in a more considered way than a dumb animal (or don't you agree
with that)?


So your answer to my question is No.
  #13  
Old July 11th 20, 02:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On 11/07/2020 01:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
Police have been informed.
QUOTE:
Some close passes are closer than others - including the one in this video in which the driver of a horsebox overtook a cyclist so closely that the rider was able to bang on the door as the vehicle passed him.

The incident was filmed last Thursday 2 July on the B4109 Hinckley Road, near Hinckley Junction with the M69 just inside Warwickshire.

It was filmed by road.cc reader Lewis, who said that the "HGV horsebox started to overtake opposite a junction with an oncoming car which the driver forced onto the verge on their side of the road.

"The driver just missed hitting me with the wing (sic) mirror and was close enough for me to reach out and slap on the door."

It's noticeable that the motorist following the horsebox, who will have seen what happened, gave Lewis a lot of space as they overtook.

No-one wants their car damaged by a vandal on a bike, even if it's a
company vehicle.

There is a simple way to avoid that, leave cyclists room as the Highway Code requires.
I wonder how they would feel if a vehicle passed that close when they were riding their horses.

Horses are widely assumed - perhaps erroneously - to be less intelligent
than cyclist humans and so perhaps more likely (or less unlikely) to
react in an unpredictable way to situations and sounds with they are not
familar.

But perhaps that assumption is incorrect.

Do you condemn or condone the driver's action?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?


Have you watched the video?


Do you take the view that it was deliberate?

And if you do, can you venture a credible opinion as to why it might
have been in anyone's interest for that to be the case?

And what about the thesis that it is reasonable to expect a human to
react in a more considered way than a dumb animal (or don't you agree
with that)?


So your answer to my question is No.


Do you take the view that the driver's actions were deliberate?


And if you are stupid enough to say "Yes" to that, can you venture a
credible opinion as to why it might have been in anyone's interest for
that to be the case?
  #14  
Old July 11th 20, 08:00 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:18:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 01:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
Police have been informed.
QUOTE:
Some close passes are closer than others - including the one in this video in which the driver of a horsebox overtook a cyclist so closely that the rider was able to bang on the door as the vehicle passed him.

The incident was filmed last Thursday 2 July on the B4109 Hinckley Road, near Hinckley Junction with the M69 just inside Warwickshire.

It was filmed by road.cc reader Lewis, who said that the "HGV horsebox started to overtake opposite a junction with an oncoming car which the driver forced onto the verge on their side of the road.

"The driver just missed hitting me with the wing (sic) mirror and was close enough for me to reach out and slap on the door."

It's noticeable that the motorist following the horsebox, who will have seen what happened, gave Lewis a lot of space as they overtook.

No-one wants their car damaged by a vandal on a bike, even if it's a
company vehicle.

There is a simple way to avoid that, leave cyclists room as the Highway Code requires.
I wonder how they would feel if a vehicle passed that close when they were riding their horses.

Horses are widely assumed - perhaps erroneously - to be less intelligent
than cyclist humans and so perhaps more likely (or less unlikely) to
react in an unpredictable way to situations and sounds with they are not
familar.

But perhaps that assumption is incorrect.

Do you condemn or condone the driver's action?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?


Have you watched the video?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?

And if you do, can you venture a credible opinion as to why it might
have been in anyone's interest for that to be the case?

And what about the thesis that it is reasonable to expect a human to
react in a more considered way than a dumb animal (or don't you agree
with that)?


So your answer to my question is No.


Do you take the view that the driver's actions were deliberate?


And if you are stupid enough to say "Yes" to that, can you venture a
credible opinion as to why it might have been in anyone's interest for
that to be the case?


Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts where they are.

  #15  
Old July 12th 20, 02:13 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On 11/07/2020 20:00, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:18:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 01:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
Police have been informed.
QUOTE:
Some close passes are closer than others - including the one in this video in which the driver of a horsebox overtook a cyclist so closely that the rider was able to bang on the door as the vehicle passed him.

The incident was filmed last Thursday 2 July on the B4109 Hinckley Road, near Hinckley Junction with the M69 just inside Warwickshire.

It was filmed by road.cc reader Lewis, who said that the "HGV horsebox started to overtake opposite a junction with an oncoming car which the driver forced onto the verge on their side of the road.

"The driver just missed hitting me with the wing (sic) mirror and was close enough for me to reach out and slap on the door."

It's noticeable that the motorist following the horsebox, who will have seen what happened, gave Lewis a lot of space as they overtook.

No-one wants their car damaged by a vandal on a bike, even if it's a
company vehicle.

There is a simple way to avoid that, leave cyclists room as the Highway Code requires.
I wonder how they would feel if a vehicle passed that close when they were riding their horses.

Horses are widely assumed - perhaps erroneously - to be less intelligent
than cyclist humans and so perhaps more likely (or less unlikely) to
react in an unpredictable way to situations and sounds with they are not
familar.

But perhaps that assumption is incorrect.

Do you condemn or condone the driver's action?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?


Have you watched the video?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?

And if you do, can you venture a credible opinion as to why it might
have been in anyone's interest for that to be the case?

And what about the thesis that it is reasonable to expect a human to
react in a more considered way than a dumb animal (or don't you agree
with that)?

So your answer to my question is No.


Do you take the view that the driver's actions were deliberate?


And if you are stupid enough to say "Yes" to that, can you venture a
credible opinion as to why it might have been in anyone's interest for
that to be the case?


Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts where they are.


Do you take the view that the driver's actions were deliberate?

And if you are stupid enough to say "Yes" to that, can you venture a
credible opinion as to why it might have been in anyone's interest for
that to be the case?
  #16  
Old July 12th 20, 12:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 02:12:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 20:00, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:18:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 01:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
Police have been informed.
QUOTE:
Some close passes are closer than others - including the one in this video in which the driver of a horsebox overtook a cyclist so closely that the rider was able to bang on the door as the vehicle passed him.

The incident was filmed last Thursday 2 July on the B4109 Hinckley Road, near Hinckley Junction with the M69 just inside Warwickshire.

It was filmed by road.cc reader Lewis, who said that the "HGV horsebox started to overtake opposite a junction with an oncoming car which the driver forced onto the verge on their side of the road.

"The driver just missed hitting me with the wing (sic) mirror and was close enough for me to reach out and slap on the door."

It's noticeable that the motorist following the horsebox, who will have seen what happened, gave Lewis a lot of space as they overtook.

No-one wants their car damaged by a vandal on a bike, even if it's a
company vehicle.

There is a simple way to avoid that, leave cyclists room as the Highway Code requires.
I wonder how they would feel if a vehicle passed that close when they were riding their horses.

Horses are widely assumed - perhaps erroneously - to be less intelligent
than cyclist humans and so perhaps more likely (or less unlikely) to
react in an unpredictable way to situations and sounds with they are not
familar.

But perhaps that assumption is incorrect.

Do you condemn or condone the driver's action?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?


Have you watched the video?

Do you take the view that it was deliberate?

And if you do, can you venture a credible opinion as to why it might
have been in anyone's interest for that to be the case?

And what about the thesis that it is reasonable to expect a human to
react in a more considered way than a dumb animal (or don't you agree
with that)?

So your answer to my question is No.

Do you take the view that the driver's actions were deliberate?


And if you are stupid enough to say "Yes" to that, can you venture a
credible opinion as to why it might have been in anyone's interest for
that to be the case?


Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts where they are.


Do you take the view that the driver's actions were deliberate?

And if you are stupid enough to say "Yes" to that, can you venture a
credible opinion as to why it might have been in anyone's interest for
that to be the case?


Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts where they are.
  #17  
Old July 12th 20, 01:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist so closely that rider could bang the door

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 11:11:49 GMT, Mike Collins
wrote:

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 02:12:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 20:00, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:18:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 01:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:

[]

Have you watched the video?


So your answer to my question is No.



Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts
where they are.




Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts
where they are.


In Nugent's defence (gasp!) there's no link to a video in these posts;
someone must have snipped it out earlier.

Here y'a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvhdKvRoybY&t=30s

Dangerously close; I'd call it.


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  #18  
Old July 12th 20, 01:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:02:20 UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 11:11:49 GMT, Mike Collins
wrote:

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 02:12:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 20:00, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:18:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 11/07/2020 01:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:25:49 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 19:20, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 10 July 2020 14:30:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2020 00:47, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:10:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 09/07/2020 04:45, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 08/07/2020 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:

[]

Have you watched the video?


So your answer to my question is No.



Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts
where they are.



Have you watched the video?
A 'Yes' or "No' answer will suffice, and please leave the goalposts
where they are.


In Nugent's defence (gasp!) there's no link to a video in these posts;
someone must have snipped it out earlier.


Apart from

https://road.cc/content/news/near-mi...-driver-275271

In the OP you mean


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Old July 12th 20, 08:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist so closely that rider could bang the door

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 12:21:41 GMT, Mike Collins
wrote:

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:02:20 UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 11:11:49 GMT, Mike Collins
wrote:

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 02:12:19 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:


[refuses to confirm or deny watching a video]


In Nugent's defence (gasp!) there's no link to a video in these
posts; someone must have snipped it out earlier.


Apart from

https://road.cc/content/news/near-mi...-horsebox-driv
er-275271

In the OP you mean

Yes but then snipped in all consequent posts.


But I made it easy in my post for him to view the video, so he can
comment here after watching it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvhdKvRoybY&t=30s

'ere why did you cut the vid link?

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  #20  
Old July 12th 20, 08:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 438: Horsebox driver overtakes cyclist soclosely that rider could bang the door

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:30:14 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

But I made it easy in my post for him to view the video, so he can
comment here after watching it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvhdKvRoybY&t=30s

'ere why did you cut the vid link?


Where was the legal 1.5m overtaking gap there?
 




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