how does the brain work?

On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 8:00:44 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:03:07 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/30/2017 12:57 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
Might be a quetion better answered in sci.psychology.


Sure but define 'work'!

Most meander or barely tick over or plod. Few actually work.

Indeed, one only has to watch people drive to realize that the simple
act of operating a motor vehicle exceeds the information processing
capacity of about 1/3 of us. And that's without the distractions of
cell phones, etc. Once you add in those, about 70% of the population
can only barely adequately operate a motor vehicle.

I almost got into it with a dumb MF yesterday afternoon. Walking across a damn parking lot you have SOB's speeding apparently expecting YOU to jump out of their way.

Exactly when is the government going to take actions against bad drivers?

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Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the
population can only barely adequately operate
a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be
something inherent that brings forward the
bad attitude and rage in man. I don't know how
many angry car drivers I have seen, being
totally frustrated with God knows what, but
they are all but countless, for sure.

At least in my home town, there are probably as
many bikers as there are drivers. Many of those
(the bikers) don't know anything about bikes.
Their chains have not been replaced or
maintained for ages. Likewise the gear and
brake cables. Some of them are even off and
stuck somewhere so they won't get in the way.

Still, all of my life I can only recall two or
three occasions when bikers have yelled at each
other or displayed any of the typical everyday
rage and frustration you see with car driver.

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

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On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 6:13:33 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the
population can only barely adequately operate
a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be
something inherent that brings forward the
bad attitude and rage in man.

Add a cup of coffee or two and it gets worse

On Tue, 02 May 2017 03:13:29 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the
population can only barely adequately operate
a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be
something inherent that brings forward the
bad attitude and rage in man. I don't know how
many angry car drivers I have seen, being
totally frustrated with God knows what, but
they are all but countless, for sure.

At least in my home town, there are probably as
many bikers as there are drivers. Many of those
(the bikers) don't know anything about bikes.
Their chains have not been replaced or
maintained for ages. Likewise the gear and
brake cables. Some of them are even off and
stuck somewhere so they won't get in the way.

Still, all of my life I can only recall two or
three occasions when bikers have yelled at each
other or displayed any of the typical everyday
rage and frustration you see with car driver.

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?
I've seen enough hippy/yuppy cyclists yelling and cursing at
automobile drivers in fits of rage - when THEY were the ones in the
wrong, not the drivers.

On Tue, 02 May 2017 03:13:29 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the population can only barely
adequately operate a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be something inherent that
brings forward the bad attitude and rage in man. I don't know how many
angry car drivers I have seen, being totally frustrated with God knows
what, but they are all but countless, for sure.

snip

Is this because biking involves physical activity, which relieves
stress, or is it because it is an outdoor thing, or is it because you
can't hide your bad manners behind a windshield, or is the bike just a
superior vehicle which is much more flexible so you can solve any
traffic issue by just riding by?

It's the gap between expectation and reality. I expect to be able to
drive fast and freely, and when I can't it ****ed me off to no end.
People get enraged about having to slow from 70 to 65 mph in a 55 mph
zone! Get the **** out of the ******* way you ************* *******!

I've done it myself.

The bigger that gap, the more frustrated we are. This drives a lot of
conflicts in the world- politics, for example, where the gap between how
we expect the world to operate and how it does is enormous. Or even
bigger, the Internet.

On Mon, 01 May 2017 22:23:17 -0400,
wrote:

I've seen enough hippy/yuppy cyclists yelling and cursing at
automobile drivers in fits of rage - when THEY were the ones in the
wrong, not the drivers.

Some but by far to my observation it is bike racers screaming at drivers
(while wearing club jerseys with their sponsors names all over 'em); the
hipsters flip the bird, the hippies are mostly too old to be riding
bikes any more, and the yuppies... are there any yuppies left?

On Mon, 01 May 2017 21:37:05 -0500, Tim McNamara
wrote:

On Mon, 01 May 2017 22:23:17 -0400,
wrote:

I've seen enough hippy/yuppy cyclists yelling and cursing at
automobile drivers in fits of rage - when THEY were the ones in the
wrong, not the drivers.

Some but by far to my observation it is bike racers screaming at drivers
(while wearing club jerseys with their sponsors names all over 'em); the
hipsters flip the bird, the hippies are mostly too old to be riding
bikes any more, and the yuppies... are there any yuppies left?
Most of the "racers" are yuppie "wannabees" - wearing $1500 Spandex
biking shorts and riding $3500 custom frame bikes.
The rest of the "yuppies" are riding fixies and wearing $300 tight
jeans. Then there are what I called "hippies" but might be more
accurately described as "stoners" - long-haired potsmoking "stinkers".

On Mon, 1 May 2017 18:26:38 -0700 (PDT), Doug Landau
wrote:

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 6:13:33 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the
population can only barely adequately operate
a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be
something inherent that brings forward the
bad attitude and rage in man.

Add a cup of coffee or two and it gets worse

Cheer up. The future is the automated self driving auto. And, as
everyone knows, computers never make a mistake :-)

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 7:34:17 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 02 May 2017 03:13:29 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the population can only barely
adequately operate a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be something inherent that
brings forward the bad attitude and rage in man. I don't know how many
angry car drivers I have seen, being totally frustrated with God knows
what, but they are all but countless, for sure.

snip

Is this because biking involves physical activity, which relieves
stress, or is it because it is an outdoor thing, or is it because you
can't hide your bad manners behind a windshield, or is the bike just a
superior vehicle which is much more flexible so you can solve any
traffic issue by just riding by?

It's the gap between expectation and reality. I expect to be able to
drive fast and freely, and when I can't it ****ed me off to no end.
People get enraged about having to slow from 70 to 65 mph in a 55 mph
zone! Get the **** out of the ******* way you ************* *******!

I've done it myself.

Me, too, and it is compounded by years of cycling. I can get on my bike and ride to work as fast as I want. If I ride home at rush hour, I can sail past lines of stopped traffic in a bike lane. I have to be careful because people will rat out of traffic unexpectedly, but otherwise, my commute over the same distance will take half the time.

Now, when I get into a car or end up in bicycle traffic, I'm stuck in the cattle chute, fuming like everyone else. Portland has terrible traffic because it has no infrastructure and a zillion people, so I'm also coping with the new reality that it is always rush hour here. And is rush hour with lots of people distracted by their various devices, hiding behind black-out windows, raging at other drivers, etc., etc. It really is time to move, and if I were retired, I would move.

-- Jay Beattie.