Motion Induced Blindness

http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear conditions to have
the opposite effect of intended.

On May 1, 9:19*am, dr6092 wrote:
http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear conditions to have
the opposite effect of intended.

If I fix on watching one of the three moving yellow lights, the other
two yellows can vanish temporarily eventually too.

http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Move the mouse cursor around and the dots disappear so fast it's like
an eraser.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear conditions to have
the opposite effect of intended.

We need something like a hologram that makes a cyclist look like a big
commercial vehicle.


Bret Cahill

On May 1, 3:46*pm, Bret Cahill wrote:
http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Move the mouse cursor around and the dots disappear so fast it's like
an eraser.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear conditions to have
the opposite effect of intended.

We need something like a hologram that makes a cyclist look like a big
commercial vehicle.

Bret Cahill

I have always wanted something like this:-
http://photos.markusherzig.com/Airpl...32_EdJB6-L.jpg

"dr6092" wrote in message
...
http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear conditions to have
the opposite effect of intended.

It reminds me of Cheerless seeing no cyclists at all when he went to his
local precinct and yet saw them law breaking all over the place just by the
simple act of walking out of his front door.

--
Simon Mason

On May 1, 10:19*am, Tris wrote:
In post


dr6092 wrote:
http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed...

Hmm... that is interesting.

Wikipedia says that it has been speculated this MIB could have
implication in certain driving conditions - for example, situations "in
which some night drivers should see stationary red tail lights of the
preceding cars disappear temporally when they attend to the moving
stream of lights from oncoming traffic...". If so, why shouldn't
cyclists lights disappear temporally from drivers when they attend to
the moving stream of lights from oncoming traffic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_induced_blindness

The is understood that the brain is only interested in change; the
picture that is "seen" is built up by scanning & memory with gaps
filled in by experience, so seeing is quite unlike the way a camera
produces a photograph.

It is not a new idea that to be noticed there is a critical timeframe
in which to do it. I suggest somewhere between 3 to 5 seconds. Hence
my comment about hi-viz. It causes people to hesitate so a manuoevre
that could be performed with a safe gap, will be done anyway but at a
more critical moment.

From my driving point of view, other cars with lights on in daylight
is also useless information. (And we're gradually having to put up
with those stupid DRLs.)

On Tue, 1 May 2012 21:18:17 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:



"dr6092" wrote in message
...
http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to report
"seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights fail to get
noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear conditions to have
the opposite effect of intended.

It reminds me of Cheerless seeing no cyclists at all when he went to his
local precinct and yet saw them law breaking all over the place just by the
simple act of walking out of his front door.



Hello - 9:18 PM and posting from home :-)

--
Simon Mason used to post from BP Chemicals where he works.
He repeatedly said that he was wasting BP's time; and not his own
time - like other posters were.
After the BP AGM in April 2012 Mason suddenly stopped posting from
a BP IP address. People have asked why - but he won't say :-)

This is the comment left by the responsible cyclist who captured the video:

"It's because of riders like this that the Daily Mail and Sun's articles on
cyclists are full up with the bile and hate directed towards ALL cyclists.
You may have saved yourself a few seconds chappy but now that poor lady in
the red coat will just remember nearly being knocked over by some ****
cyclist this morning! I can only hope my yelling at you left a better
impression :-D"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0JYOIDmJvQ

On May 1, 9:44*pm, dr6092 wrote:


From my driving point of view, other cars with lights on in daylight
is also useless information. (And we're gradually having to put up
with those stupid DRLs.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And a waste of fuel due to the additional fuel that is used.

--
Simon Mason

Judith wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 21:18:17 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:



"dr6092" wrote in message
...
http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html

I can see the dots for 5 seconds before they disappear.

Looks like a useful demonstration of why people are so keen to
report "seeing" cyclists without lights yet cyclists with lights
fail to get noticed. Clearly why I have found hi-viz in clear
conditions to have the opposite effect of intended.

It reminds me of Cheerless seeing no cyclists at all when he went to
his local precinct and yet saw them law breaking all over the place
just by the simple act of walking out of his front door.



Hello - 9:18 PM and posting from home :-)

and I wonder why he is still so obsessed with me? Surely his kill file
means that he never sees that which I post.

Again, I am astonished at how dim and obtuse cyclists can be, they appear
unable to accept that different areas have problems that may vary
considerably from the rose tinted view from their own slum.