Another nasty holiday season on RBT

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:02:29 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:56:04 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

For Heaven's sake! Tom is an old man, who is in ill health and suffers
from brain damage. The thought that he is going to beat anyone up is
just another one of his fantasies, like flying around in the bomb bay
of airplanes at 5,000 feet over Vietnam.

And yet that is what happened. But then since you've done so little you wouldn't understand that life is strange and wonderful. The tail gunner in a B52D is actually in the tail. The way to get from the back pressurized compartment to the front is via a very narrow 6" wide shelf. The only way to do this is to put one knee in front of the other and scoot along while holding yourself on the shelf by slipping two fingers per hand between the gap in the vertical and horizontal ribs of the aircraft. On the ground this is scary since you're at least 10' above the bottom of the bomb bays. Because of the curvature of the hull you have to lean your body out over the bays so not many people would do that.

The A/C asked me to go to the gunner's position to find out what the heck was wrong with him since he sounded like he was going nuts. It turned out to be nothing since he was just watching the SAMs bursting around us.

So I went back there before the bomb run and came back after the bomb run. You cannot breath the air above 10,000 feet and remain conscious. So the only way to crawl through an unpressurized bomb bay to the gunner's position using a lot of strength would be to be below 10,000 ft,

After the bomb run I had to come forward because that was the only time we were low enough to allow my passage. What I was unaware of was that they leave the bomb bays open after a run to air then out. If we got shrapnel through the sides of the aircraft and through a bomb it could have splattered explosives into the bomb bays so you aired them out before rising to altitude.

That meant that on my way forward I crawled through the bomb bays with the doors open. The bomb bay doors had three positions - closed, open and unpowered so that they hung below the aircraft but not pushed entirely out to the sides. They depowered the doors and let them hang straight down after the run.

I even flew the aircraft - the A/C had to take a leak and regulations said that inside the war zone you had to have both A/C and Pilot positions manned at all times. So he called me up to the upper deck and put me in the A/C position. He even disengaged the autopilot so that I could fly the aircraft. The Pilot was there to make sure I didn't do anything wrong. But he supervised me as I banked it one way and the other a little. The aircraft is huge and it is extremely stable so it was no big deal.

I was up there for at least 5 minutes. I guess the A/C was BS'ing with the navigator and bombardier.

Yesterday, I was going to look at some building where I used to work and where there might be a new company. So I was going to take a resume. I was looking around for my briefcase and ran across a three clip folder - to my surprise I discovered that I taken a course on navigation from the University of Marin and passed with an A. I remember nothing about that but that is why I was hired on as Navigator for those large racing sailboats down the Pacific Coast to Catalina. I assumed that I had taught navigation to myself and that the reason I was on board is because I was the only one that would climb the mast in case of a problem at the masthead. Try climbing up a 70 ft mast in a seaway and you'd know why no one else would do that. I would be Navigator and Watch Captain.

I raced motorcycles semi-professionally which meant that Kawasaki gave ne an A1R to race but I did everything else myself. When I got tired of racing against a guy 5'1" tall that weight next to nothing on a Yamaha I was the Safety Director of the American Federation of Motorcyclists. I went down to Bell and discussed helmets with them. I learned enough that after bicycle helmets were around for awhile I wrote a paper showing that they don't do much. It's still floating around there out on the web someplace.

Some of the jobs I've done range from designing and programming the machine used to identify HIV for the very first time to programming the poison gas detectors for the Army at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. I even worked at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories to increase the power on their accelerator.

Between jobs I even helped start a telephone installation company for high rise office buildings in San Francisco.

Because you people have no abilities you assume no one else does. So you cannot believe anything that isn't outside of your very narrow scope of understanding.

I argued economics with Paul Volcker and see the sheer ignorance of Jay and Frank who are both supposedly postgrads.


Tom, you are as full of **** as a Christmas Turkey. You flew the B-52!
On a combat mission they shut off the autopilot and let you fly the
airplane!

SAC regulations say that both the AC and the Pilot positions have to
be filled... Right! So I guess that the only way an AC can take a leak
is to either have Tom aboard or **** his pants?

And, the A.C. asked a non-crew member to crawl back to check on the
tail gunner? Or are you claiming that you were a crew member?

No intercom? The AC couldn't call up the tail gunner and ask him how
he is? You think that whole on oxygen the flight crew isn't constantly
checking each other?

All I can say is that you have a very vivid imagination and know
little if anything about how a USAF flight crew acts in combat.
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:05:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 8:01:13 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/17/2019 5:03 PM, wrote:


Tell us Jay - how do you like living in the second most dangerous city in the country?


Tom, did you miss this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_crime_rate

Or do you not understand how to read the numbers?


--
- Frank Krygowski

This is why I think you're a moron Frank. Pure numbers of crimes do not indicate CRIME RATE. Just as your completely ignorant posting yesterday about the national debt. I wrote a treatise about it but it wouldn't allow me to post it because I had exceeded the numbers of posts for the day and that posting disappeared overnight as my automatic cleaner erased it.

Pure numbers do not indicate CRIME RATE?

Well what does? Your imagination? Your imagination when you take your
med's or when you forget to take them?

You wrote a treatise? Sure you did. About what happens when you buy
cheap Chinese bicycle wheels.

Tom you are a phony!
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:10:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 2:06:55 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 1:07:39 PM UTC-8, duane wrote:
On 18/01/2019 3:54 p.m., jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:56:09 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

I'm far more interested in Jay's supposed legal talent when he believes that my launching a challenge and you taking it up to the point of coming here would constitute any sort of assault on my part. I have to wonder if Jay's entire practice isn't writing wills for old ladies.

Is there a problem with writing wills for old ladies? Old ladies need wills, too. Do you not like old ladies?

I don't do criminal. Civil trial assignments occur after criminal call, so my view of criminals has been while waiting for trial assignments -- and in court when they inevitably get dragged into an on-going civil trial or motion for sentencing, probation violations, pleas, etc. Judges take breaks to do these criminal spot jobs, and you get to see the jump-suit and shackle crowd traipse into the court room. It's like the orange ghost of Christmas past. I used to see lots of criminals when I worked ambulance and even worked with a few.

I know the assault statutes. You swing and miss, its attempted assault 2, assuming you intend serious physical injury -- which you apparently do. I even know assault in Washington. Don't get drunk and shoot someone. https://www.leagle.com/decision/inwaco20171213j15 In that case, I represented a bar on an over-service case and won. A huge victory for sports bars! Woohooo! If you get drunk at a Washington bar and shoot someone with a 1911, don't blame it on the bar. BTW, I've had a lot of stupid gun cases and even represented two big manufacturers who we all know and some cartridge manufacturers as well -- and I've already regaled you with my tank and cannon stories.

-- Jay Beattie.


Not that I care that much but out of curiosity, isn't uttering threats
still an actionable offense? I mean I know that with the Donald things
have changed...

In Oregon its called "menacing" (as it is in many other states, too):


ORS 163.190¹

Menacing

(1) A person commits the crime of menacing if by word or conduct the person intentionally attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.

(2) Menacing is a Class A misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 §95]


In California, it's called "threatening" -- here's the statute:



PENAL CODE - PEN
PART 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS [25 - 680] ( Part 1 enacted 1872. )
TITLE 11.5. CRIMINAL THREATS [422 - 422.4] ( Heading of Title 11.5 amended by Stats. 2000, Ch. 1001, Sec. 4. )
422.
(a) Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family’s safety, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

(b) For purposes of this section, “immediate family” means any spouse, whether by marriage or not, parent, child, any person related by consanguinity or affinity within the second degree, or any other person who regularly resides in the household, or who, within the prior six months, regularly resided in the household.

(c) “Electronic communication device” includes, but is not limited to, telephones, cellular telephones, computers, video recorders, fax machines, or pagers. “Electronic communication” has the same meaning as the term defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

(Amended (as amended by Stats. 2011, Ch. 15) by Stats. 2011, Ch. 39, Sec. 16. (AB 117) Effective June 30, 2011. Operative October 1, 2011, pursuant to Secs. 68 and 69 of Ch. 39.)


IT INCLUDES WRITTEN THREATS ON NEWS GROUPS! OMG, I think we're going to have to refer Tom from criminal prosecution!

-- Jay Beattie.

Tome should be careful about making threats online since he lives in California.

"California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats).

https://www.shouselaw.com/criminal_threats.html

A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and

1. that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family,
2. the threat is specific and unequivocal and
3. you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.1

Criminal threats can be charged whether or not you have the ability to carry out the threat...and even if you don't actually intend to execute the threat.2"

https://www.chamberslawfirmca.com/wh...alifornia-law/

"The California Penal Code makes it a crime to willfully communicate a threat to another person that would result in great physical harm or death. This is known as the crime of making criminal threats. To convict you of the crime of making criminal threats, the prosecution must prove five separate things: (1) you willfully (purposefully) threatened another person with the intent of seriously injuring or killing that person; (2) the threat was made verbally, in writing, or through electronic communication; (3) you meant for your statement to be understood as a threat, regardless if you were either able to or intended to carry the threat out;"

https://jnlawoffices.com/criminal-threats-california/

"And in the state of California, while your right to free speech fully protects the expression of your opinions, it does not extend to libel, slander, or threats of violence, and you may not intimidate another person with a threat of violence.

That’s considered “making a criminal threat,” and in California, it’s against the law.

Anyone who is accused of making a criminal threat in Southern California will need the help of an experienced Long Beach criminal defense attorney."

Cheers

And then, I say to you as well - by all means try to press any charges against me. I could use all the money you have to your name.


Why in the world would anyone want to press charges against a feeble
old man who can't differentiate between his own fantacies and
reality.
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:13:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:56:09 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

I'm far more interested in Jay's supposed legal talent when he believes that my launching a challenge and you taking it up to the point of coming here would constitute any sort of assault on my part. I have to wonder if Jay's entire practice isn't writing wills for old ladies.

You don't have to wonder, you can look it up, You see, a lawyer's name
is on the cases that he files so it is a matter of record and can be
easily determined.

Unlike your fevered fantasies Jay's record is right out in the open
for everyone to see. Not a figment of someone's imagination.
--

Cheers,

John B.

Do you suppose I didn't know he was a product liability litigator from the second posting he ever made? My point is that his expertise in other things is painfully limited save perhaps his cycling and racing experience and he shouldn't act like it is.

Frank was a teacher. Yet he has extremely limited understanding of statistical analysis and economics so why should he be offering almost entirely incorrect opinions thereupon?

The basis of our disagreement was not because they are liberal but because they THINK they are liberal without even knowing the modern definition of that.

Well, I suggest that (1) Jay's expertise is likely to be much greater
then your own and he normally posts references to his statements
unlike you who simply make things up out of clear air and expect that
your readers are too stupid to realize that you are telling lies. and
(2) Frank, like Jay, normally furnishes references to his statements,
again unlike you who seem prone to wild eyed assertions that
apparently are a result of your brain damage, or perhaps failure to
take your medicine.

Sorry Tom, given a choice between a rational teacher and a sober
advocate and a wild eyed fool ranting and raving and making little
sense the fool loses.
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 07:27:33 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:10:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 2:06:55 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 1:07:39 PM UTC-8, duane wrote:
On 18/01/2019 3:54 p.m., jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:56:09 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

I'm far more interested in Jay's supposed legal talent when he believes that my launching a challenge and you taking it up to the point of coming here would constitute any sort of assault on my part. I have to wonder if Jay's entire practice isn't writing wills for old ladies.

Is there a problem with writing wills for old ladies? Old ladies need wills, too. Do you not like old ladies?

I don't do criminal. Civil trial assignments occur after criminal call, so my view of criminals has been while waiting for trial assignments -- and in court when they inevitably get dragged into an on-going civil trial or motion for sentencing, probation violations, pleas, etc. Judges take breaks to do these criminal spot jobs, and you get to see the jump-suit and shackle crowd traipse into the court room. It's like the orange ghost of Christmas past. I used to see lots of criminals when I worked ambulance and even worked with a few.

I know the assault statutes. You swing and miss, its attempted assault 2, assuming you intend serious physical injury -- which you apparently do. I even know assault in Washington. Don't get drunk and shoot someone. https://www.leagle.com/decision/inwaco20171213j15 In that case, I represented a bar on an over-service case and won. A huge victory for sports bars! Woohooo! If you get drunk at a Washington bar and shoot someone with a 1911, don't blame it on the bar. BTW, I've had a lot of stupid gun cases and even represented two big manufacturers who we all know and some cartridge manufacturers as well -- and I've already regaled you with my tank and cannon stories.

-- Jay Beattie.


Not that I care that much but out of curiosity, isn't uttering threats
still an actionable offense? I mean I know that with the Donald things
have changed...

In Oregon its called "menacing" (as it is in many other states, too):


ORS 163.190¹

Menacing

(1) A person commits the crime of menacing if by word or conduct the person intentionally attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.

(2) Menacing is a Class A misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 §95]


In California, it's called "threatening" -- here's the statute:



PENAL CODE - PEN
PART 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS [25 - 680] ( Part 1 enacted 1872. )
TITLE 11.5. CRIMINAL THREATS [422 - 422.4] ( Heading of Title 11.5 amended by Stats. 2000, Ch. 1001, Sec. 4. )
422.
(a) Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family’s safety, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

(b) For purposes of this section, “immediate family” means any spouse, whether by marriage or not, parent, child, any person related by consanguinity or affinity within the second degree, or any other person who regularly resides in the household, or who, within the prior six months, regularly resided in the household.

(c) “Electronic communication device” includes, but is not limited to, telephones, cellular telephones, computers, video recorders, fax machines, or pagers. “Electronic communication” has the same meaning as the term defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

(Amended (as amended by Stats. 2011, Ch. 15) by Stats. 2011, Ch. 39, Sec. 16. (AB 117) Effective June 30, 2011. Operative October 1, 2011, pursuant to Secs. 68 and 69 of Ch. 39.)


IT INCLUDES WRITTEN THREATS ON NEWS GROUPS! OMG, I think we're going to have to refer Tom from criminal prosecution!

-- Jay Beattie.

Tome should be careful about making threats online since he lives in California.

"California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats).

https://www.shouselaw.com/criminal_threats.html

A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and

1. that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family,
2. the threat is specific and unequivocal and
3. you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.1

Criminal threats can be charged whether or not you have the ability to carry out the threat...and even if you don't actually intend to execute the threat.2"

https://www.chamberslawfirmca.com/wh...alifornia-law/

"The California Penal Code makes it a crime to willfully communicate a threat to another person that would result in great physical harm or death. This is known as the crime of making criminal threats. To convict you of the crime of making criminal threats, the prosecution must prove five separate things: (1) you willfully (purposefully) threatened another person with the intent of seriously injuring or killing that person; (2) the threat was made verbally, in writing, or through electronic communication; (3) you meant for your statement to be understood as a threat, regardless if you were either able to or intended to carry the threat out;"

https://jnlawoffices.com/criminal-threats-california/

"And in the state of California, while your right to free speech fully protects the expression of your opinions, it does not extend to libel, slander, or threats of violence, and you may not intimidate another person with a threat of violence.

That’s considered “making a criminal threat,” and in California, it’s against the law.

Anyone who is accused of making a criminal threat in Southern California will need the help of an experienced Long Beach criminal defense attorney."

Cheers

And then, I say to you as well - by all means try to press any charges against me. I could use all the money you have to your name.


Why in the world would anyone want to press charges against a feeble
old man who can't differentiate between his own fantacies and
reality.

To add to the above, I suggest that you would be judged
not guilty due to insanity" Or perhaps "not guilty due to impaired
mental abilities".

Maybe we can get Jay to look up the actual law.
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:01:23 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:02:29 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:56:04 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

For Heaven's sake! Tom is an old man, who is in ill health and suffers
from brain damage. The thought that he is going to beat anyone up is
just another one of his fantasies, like flying around in the bomb bay
of airplanes at 5,000 feet over Vietnam.

And yet that is what happened. But then since you've done so little you wouldn't understand that life is strange and wonderful. The tail gunner in a B52D is actually in the tail. The way to get from the back pressurized compartment to the front is via a very narrow 6" wide shelf. The only way to do this is to put one knee in front of the other and scoot along while holding yourself on the shelf by slipping two fingers per hand between the gap in the vertical and horizontal ribs of the aircraft. On the ground this is scary since you're at least 10' above the bottom of the bomb bays. Because of the curvature of the hull you have to lean your body out over the bays so not many people would do that.

The A/C asked me to go to the gunner's position to find out what the heck was wrong with him since he sounded like he was going nuts. It turned out to be nothing since he was just watching the SAMs bursting around us.

So I went back there before the bomb run and came back after the bomb run. You cannot breath the air above 10,000 feet and remain conscious. So the only way to crawl through an unpressurized bomb bay to the gunner's position using a lot of strength would be to be below 10,000 ft,

After the bomb run I had to come forward because that was the only time we were low enough to allow my passage. What I was unaware of was that they leave the bomb bays open after a run to air then out. If we got shrapnel through the sides of the aircraft and through a bomb it could have splattered explosives into the bomb bays so you aired them out before rising to altitude.

That meant that on my way forward I crawled through the bomb bays with the doors open. The bomb bay doors had three positions - closed, open and unpowered so that they hung below the aircraft but not pushed entirely out to the sides. They depowered the doors and let them hang straight down after the run.

I even flew the aircraft - the A/C had to take a leak and regulations said that inside the war zone you had to have both A/C and Pilot positions manned at all times. So he called me up to the upper deck and put me in the A/C position. He even disengaged the autopilot so that I could fly the aircraft. The Pilot was there to make sure I didn't do anything wrong. But he supervised me as I banked it one way and the other a little. The aircraft is huge and it is extremely stable so it was no big deal.

I was up there for at least 5 minutes. I guess the A/C was BS'ing with the navigator and bombardier.

Yesterday, I was going to look at some building where I used to work and where there might be a new company. So I was going to take a resume. I was looking around for my briefcase and ran across a three clip folder - to my surprise I discovered that I taken a course on navigation from the University of Marin and passed with an A. I remember nothing about that but that is why I was hired on as Navigator for those large racing sailboats down the Pacific Coast to Catalina. I assumed that I had taught navigation to myself and that the reason I was on board is because I was the only one that would climb the mast in case of a problem at the masthead. Try climbing up a 70 ft mast in a seaway and you'd know why no one else would do that. I would be Navigator and Watch Captain.

I raced motorcycles semi-professionally which meant that Kawasaki gave ne an A1R to race but I did everything else myself. When I got tired of racing against a guy 5'1" tall that weight next to nothing on a Yamaha I was the Safety Director of the American Federation of Motorcyclists. I went down to Bell and discussed helmets with them. I learned enough that after bicycle helmets were around for awhile I wrote a paper showing that they don't do much. It's still floating around there out on the web someplace.

Some of the jobs I've done range from designing and programming the machine used to identify HIV for the very first time to programming the poison gas detectors for the Army at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. I even worked at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories to increase the power on their accelerator.

Between jobs I even helped start a telephone installation company for high rise office buildings in San Francisco.

Because you people have no abilities you assume no one else does. So you cannot believe anything that isn't outside of your very narrow scope of understanding.

I argued economics with Paul Volcker and see the sheer ignorance of Jay and Frank who are both supposedly postgrads.


Tom, you are as full of **** as a Christmas Turkey. You flew the B-52!
On a combat mission they shut off the autopilot and let you fly the
airplane!

SAC regulations say that both the AC and the Pilot positions have to
be filled... Right! So I guess that the only way an AC can take a leak
is to either have Tom aboard or **** his pants?

And, the A.C. asked a non-crew member to crawl back to check on the
tail gunner? Or are you claiming that you were a crew member?

No intercom? The AC couldn't call up the tail gunner and ask him how
he is? You think that whole on oxygen the flight crew isn't constantly
checking each other?

All I can say is that you have a very vivid imagination and know
little if anything about how a USAF flight crew acts in combat.
--

Cheers,

John B.

You really are one stupid **** aren't you? Like flying a B52 is some big deal with the aircraft pilot siting in the right seat. What a dunce.

I happened to be on the aircraft and was up sitting dead center behind them looking at how the instruments responded. Normally the EWO would have sat in. Well since you said that you were friends with an EWO who had been in a war zone he would have known that and been able to tell you about it. You did say you were friends with an EWO didn't you?

So you think that you're going to call on the Intercom and ask the tail gunner why he is whooping and screaming huh? I guess that's why no one would ever trust you with a wooden nickel. It's pretty plain that you knew that you couldn't get a job back in the US and that's why you're still in Thailand..

So perhaps you can explain to me what in the hell you would ever know about how a flight crew behaves in a combat zone.

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:13:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:56:09 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

I'm far more interested in Jay's supposed legal talent when he believes that my launching a challenge and you taking it up to the point of coming here would constitute any sort of assault on my part. I have to wonder if Jay's entire practice isn't writing wills for old ladies.

You don't have to wonder, you can look it up, You see, a lawyer's name
is on the cases that he files so it is a matter of record and can be
easily determined.

Unlike your fevered fantasies Jay's record is right out in the open
for everyone to see. Not a figment of someone's imagination.
--

Cheers,

John B.

Do you suppose I didn't know he was a product liability litigator from the second posting he ever made? My point is that his expertise in other things is painfully limited save perhaps his cycling and racing experience and he shouldn't act like it is.

Frank was a teacher. Yet he has extremely limited understanding of statistical analysis and economics so why should he be offering almost entirely incorrect opinions thereupon?

The basis of our disagreement was not because they are liberal but because they THINK they are liberal without even knowing the modern definition of that.

Well, I suggest that (1) Jay's expertise is likely to be much greater
then your own and he normally posts references to his statements
unlike you who simply make things up out of clear air and expect that
your readers are too stupid to realize that you are telling lies. and
(2) Frank, like Jay, normally furnishes references to his statements,
again unlike you who seem prone to wild eyed assertions that
apparently are a result of your brain damage, or perhaps failure to
take your medicine.

Sorry Tom, given a choice between a rational teacher and a sober
advocate and a wild eyed fool ranting and raving and making little
sense the fool loses.
--

Cheers,

John B.

You, frank and Jay think that your level of reality is googling something. It doesn't matter in the least that Google is corrupt and purposely puts hard leftist bias on all of the information to the point where they lied before the Congress about not changing anything themselves "Its all controlled by a algorithm. Now several engineers have come forward saying that Google personally fixes the results to bear hard left. Hard rain is going to fall.

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 07:27:33 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:10:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 2:06:55 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 1:07:39 PM UTC-8, duane wrote:
On 18/01/2019 3:54 p.m., jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:56:09 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:42:52 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:25:47 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 5:06:44 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
Now that was another nasty holiday season on RBT -- and we're no
for'arder than the smug selfsatisfaction of the usual bullies and undesirables.

Andre Jute
Congratulations

So go away already!

Cheers
I'd be willing to bet that I would drop you with one punch. But just
to make sure I'd hit you a half dozen times before you could fall.
Funny thing boxing, the reaction times are built into the muscles and
you have to hold it back rather than concentrate on trying to use it.

I'd REALLY like to see you try!

Cheers

Any time you're in Oakland just let me know.

What is this? The fifth grade?

-- Jay Beattie.


Not even...

I promised myself in grade school to never take any crap off of people
like you. And I never have. And I have always been the one to walk away
from someone laying on the ground. So maybe you think you can change
that record; I'm ready, willing and able.

Fascinating. You sound like all the dopes I see down at criminal call
with oppositional defiant disorder.
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositi...der-in-adults/ You
may live in a **** hole now, but I can guaranty you that going to county
jail on a menacing charge is worse -- or going to prison on Assault 2 if
you actually connect. You meet Ralph on the street, you give him
Christian love, because we all know you are a Christian.

-- Jay Beattie.

I haven't been in a fistfight since elementary school, so I'm quite willing
to concede the title of "Baddest mofo in all of Oakland" to Tom. However, I
thought we weren't supposed to talk about fight club.

I'm far more interested in Jay's supposed legal talent when he believes that my launching a challenge and you taking it up to the point of coming here would constitute any sort of assault on my part. I have to wonder if Jay's entire practice isn't writing wills for old ladies.

Is there a problem with writing wills for old ladies? Old ladies need wills, too. Do you not like old ladies?

I don't do criminal. Civil trial assignments occur after criminal call, so my view of criminals has been while waiting for trial assignments -- and in court when they inevitably get dragged into an on-going civil trial or motion for sentencing, probation violations, pleas, etc. Judges take breaks to do these criminal spot jobs, and you get to see the jump-suit and shackle crowd traipse into the court room. It's like the orange ghost of Christmas past. I used to see lots of criminals when I worked ambulance and even worked with a few.

I know the assault statutes. You swing and miss, its attempted assault 2, assuming you intend serious physical injury -- which you apparently do. I even know assault in Washington. Don't get drunk and shoot someone. https://www.leagle.com/decision/inwaco20171213j15 In that case, I represented a bar on an over-service case and won. A huge victory for sports bars! Woohooo! If you get drunk at a Washington bar and shoot someone with a 1911, don't blame it on the bar. BTW, I've had a lot of stupid gun cases and even represented two big manufacturers who we all know and some cartridge manufacturers as well -- and I've already regaled you with my tank and cannon stories.

-- Jay Beattie.


Not that I care that much but out of curiosity, isn't uttering threats
still an actionable offense? I mean I know that with the Donald things
have changed...

In Oregon its called "menacing" (as it is in many other states, too):


ORS 163.190¹

Menacing

(1) A person commits the crime of menacing if by word or conduct the person intentionally attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.

(2) Menacing is a Class A misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 §95]


In California, it's called "threatening" -- here's the statute:



PENAL CODE - PEN
PART 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS [25 - 680] ( Part 1 enacted 1872.. )
TITLE 11.5. CRIMINAL THREATS [422 - 422.4] ( Heading of Title 11.5 amended by Stats. 2000, Ch. 1001, Sec. 4. )
422.
(a) Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family’s safety, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

(b) For purposes of this section, “immediate family� means any spouse, whether by marriage or not, parent, child, any person related by consanguinity or affinity within the second degree, or any other person who regularly resides in the household, or who, within the prior six months, regularly resided in the household.

(c) “Electronic communication device� includes, but is not limited to, telephones, cellular telephones, computers, video recorders, fax machines, or pagers. “Electronic communication� has the same meaning as the term defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

(Amended (as amended by Stats. 2011, Ch. 15) by Stats. 2011, Ch. 39, Sec. 16. (AB 117) Effective June 30, 2011. Operative October 1, 2011, pursuant to Secs. 68 and 69 of Ch. 39.)


IT INCLUDES WRITTEN THREATS ON NEWS GROUPS! OMG, I think we're going to have to refer Tom from criminal prosecution!

-- Jay Beattie.

Tome should be careful about making threats online since he lives in California.

"California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats).

https://www.shouselaw.com/criminal_threats.html

A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and

1. that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family,
2. the threat is specific and unequivocal and
3. you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.1

Criminal threats can be charged whether or not you have the ability to carry out the threat...and even if you don't actually intend to execute the threat.2"

https://www.chamberslawfirmca.com/wh...alifornia-law/

"The California Penal Code makes it a crime to willfully communicate a threat to another person that would result in great physical harm or death. This is known as the crime of making criminal threats. To convict you of the crime of making criminal threats, the prosecution must prove five separate things: (1) you willfully (purposefully) threatened another person with the intent of seriously injuring or killing that person; (2) the threat was made verbally, in writing, or through electronic communication; (3) you meant for your statement to be understood as a threat, regardless if you were either able to or intended to carry the threat out;"

https://jnlawoffices.com/criminal-threats-california/

"And in the state of California, while your right to free speech fully protects the expression of your opinions, it does not extend to libel, slander, or threats of violence, and you may not intimidate another person with a threat of violence.

That’s considered “making a criminal threat,� and in California, it’s against the law.

Anyone who is accused of making a criminal threat in Southern California will need the help of an experienced Long Beach criminal defense attorney."

Cheers

And then, I say to you as well - by all means try to press any charges against me. I could use all the money you have to your name.


Why in the world would anyone want to press charges against a feeble
old man who can't differentiate between his own fantacies and
reality.

To add to the above, I suggest that you would be judged
not guilty due to insanity" Or perhaps "not guilty due to impaired
mental abilities".

Maybe we can get Jay to look up the actual law.
--

Cheers,

John B.

Ahhhh, poor little Johnny got his feelings hurt. It must be terrible to have had a nothing life.

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:55:49 PM UTC, wrote:

Frank was a teacher.

Frank's a jumped-up welder.

Yet he has extremely limited understanding of statistical analysis and economics so why should he be offering almost entirely incorrect opinions thereupon?

You're giving Franki-boy altogether too much credit, Tom. Krygowski's knowledge of statistic analysis and interpretation is would be zero if he kept his mouth shut. But since he can't keep his mouth shut, and does damage to cause he tries to promote with statistics, we must conclude that his understanding of statistics is a negative quality. Here's an example: Franki-boy is always going on about how cycling is safer than a lot of people believe. He offered some numbers in proof. I went to the same sources, did a proper analysis, and discovered that ***cycling is even safer than Franki-boy Krygowski claimed!*** What a ******. Of course the ungracious clown didn't thank me for saving him from his ignorance: instead he pretends that I see danger to cyclists where there is none. That's not all, Franki-boy knows he's incompetent to handle sampling statistics (and so he should be -- it's been pointed out to him often enough), so, if you bring an irrefutable case to RBT, he claims he isn't reading your post, even while commenting on them with a flow of ad hominem. A good example is a study of all accidents in which bicyclists were involved in New York, not a sampling study, an actual head count of all those referred to accident and emergency: absolutely irrefutable evidence that one of the biggest bees in Franki-boy's bonnet can't find its way back to the hive. But Franki-boy absolutely refuses to discuss the study or even to admit it exists. So, in consideration of these three points, I would say that Krygowski is useless with statistics, he knows he's useless with statistic, and he uses statistics to bully, to baffle, and to lie.

The basis of our disagreement was not because they are liberal but because they THINK they are liberal without even knowing the modern definition of that.

Oh, I'm sure that Franki-boy and Slow Johnny and the several nasty anonymous emanations of the thief Peter Howard currently infesting RBT would be shocked if one explained to them why they are cultural Marxists. I don't know about Jay -- he's probably smart enough to understand that these clowns can't ever build anything, can only sneer and jeer and if there are enough of them destroy something they couldn't ever build -- but he runs with the crowd because it isn't worth the energy to stand up to the mob. They come and they go and there's no shortage of petty little men overflowing with envy, resentment and pure pointless malice to take their places. Rational people, with all the will in the world, cannot hope to stay ahead of assholes with opinions on everything.

Andre Jute
To think I welcomed the net as a voice for everyman outwith the editorial control of the intellectual elite. Just goes to show even I can be diametrically wrong.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:02:29 -0800, sltom992 wrote:

Yesterday, I was going to look at some building where I used to work and
where there might be a new company. So I was going to take a resume. I
was looking around for my briefcase and ran across a three clip folder -
to my surprise I discovered that I taken a course on navigation from the
University of Marin and passed with an A. I remember nothing about that
but that is why I was hired on as Navigator for those large racing
sailboats down the Pacific Coast to Catalina.

Navigators in sailing boat races only have to worry if they are out to
win, mainly about over running the end port.

I assumed that I had
taught navigation to myself
But you still went to a course?
Shrug, I got asked to teach navigation to wanna be pilots for a light
aircraft mob. WTF, naah, you just follow the railway lines they said.

and that the reason I was on board is
because I was the only one that would climb the mast in case of a
problem at the masthead. Try climbing up a 70 ft mast in a seaway and
you'd know why no one else would do that. I would be Navigator and Watch
Captain.

Err, in my experience, all large sailing boats, use a "chair" and winch
to send people up the mast to look at problems. You're just required to
have a strong stomach.

I raced motorcycles semi-professionally which meant that Kawasaki gave
ne an A1R to race but I did everything else myself. When I got tired of
racing against a guy 5'1" tall that weight next to nothing on a Yamaha.

Yer, my Kawasaki was like that as well; it kept up to the speed limit,
but not the rest of the traffic.

I was the Safety Director of the American Federation of Motorcyclists.
I went down to Bell and discussed helmets with them. I learned enough
that after bicycle helmets were around for awhile I wrote a paper
showing that they don't do much.

Blind freddy knew that.

It's still floating around there out on the web
someplace.

Unless you're hosting it, I doubt it. Permanacy is not a feature of
material on the internet as people have pointed out you non-existed
imprint on it now. Perhaps the WayBackMachine might have a copy if you
can provide some details of where you think you lodged it.

Some of the jobs I've done range from designing and programming the
machine used to identify HIV for the very first time
Why does HIV require a machine to be designed especially for it?
Ime, if you tell a manufacturer what you need to do, they'll tell you
what you need, you just have to compare the different options.

to programming the
poison gas detectors for the Army at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories.

I even worked at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories to increase the power on
their accelerator.

You helped drag thicker cables in? Seriously be a bit more specific. You
might have been the guy who told the techs where the lunch room was for
all that means.


Between jobs I even helped start a telephone installation company for
high rise office buildings in San Francisco.

Because you people have no abilities you assume no one else does. So you
cannot believe anything that isn't outside of your very narrow scope of
understanding.

As wise people say over here, when some one offers to sell you and island
and a bridge, it is best to ask for detailed information and get it is
writing real quick.

I argued economics with Paul Volcker and see the sheer ignorance of Jay
and Frank who are both supposedly postgrads.

Shrug, plenty of fools argue with exports and think that means they know
something. Unfortunately for you, you history of copy and paste economic
arguments coupled with your personal circumstances shows you actually
know next to nill, if that.