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Survey - Lorry Drivers vs Cyclists
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:29:21 -0000, "mileburner"
wrote: Vicko Zoomba wrote: On 16 Jan, 22:14, Marc wrote: There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it to be worth the effort. ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher than you will ever be. Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison. I don't think that an Open University degree is anything special - do you? BSc Hons (Open) , Systems thinking, Environment and Policy |
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:25:40 +0000, Phil W Lee
phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote: "OG" considered Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:58:02 -0000 the perfect time to write: snip That was how you responded to the survey? If so, we'd better warn CTC that it's now doubly invalid, since they were looking for responses from cyclists to this survey, and truckers in the other (so far undiscovered) one. I am an occasional cyclist - are you saying that my views do not count? |
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On Jan 17, 10:45*am, JMS wrote:
There is a running thread in uk.rec.cycling.moderated about a survey being done for the CTC regarding cyclists and lorry drivers. Some have said that the design of the survey is totally biased in favour of cyclists The site says : "If you are a regular cyclist, please answer the 10 questions that follow." http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?s...DNa0bc2A_3d_3d I have x-posted to uk.transport,uk.rec.driving as there are probably occasional cyclists who may want to take part in the survey. -- Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws. The answer: All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered. Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest. Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed. (With thanks to KeithT for the idea) we have similar (and different) problems here http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-stan...ouring-cyclist |
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On 18/01/2010 00:32, NM wrote:
On 17 Jan, 21:37, wrote: On 17/01/2010 21:16, NM wrote: On 17 Jan, 20:26, wrote: On 17/01/2010 20:10, Peter Grange wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:02:28 -0000, "Brimstone" wrote: wrote in message ... NM wrote: On 17 Jan, 15:29, wrote: Vicko Zoomba wrote: On 16 Jan, 22:14, wrote: There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it to be worth the effort. ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher than you will ever be. Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison. Wanna bet? I don't gamble, but if you are suggesting that they education required to be a lorry driver exceeds the education of the poster known as Marc then you are wrong. The education needed to do a job has nothing to do with the education some of the people doing the job have received. Agreed, but he did say "as a lorry driver". It doesn't make any difference, you can't trust anything a lorry driver says. Don't forget this is the "profession" that is so untrustworthy that the Government had to set up weighbridges because lorry drivers can't be trusted to drive at a legal weight limit; Tachographs because they couldn't be trusted to stay within their hours, even their hours are restricted because they can't be trusted to drive when they aren't tired; speed limiters because they can't be trusted to keep to speed limits. Lorry drivers have shown over and over again that they can't be trusted, so why would lieing about education bother them? Really eating you that you couldn't make HGV isn't it. Never interested me, I like sleeping at home and having a shower in the morning. I suppose there are those who appreciate a boring unadventurous life, the world needs worker bees. In my HGV I have travelled every country in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East to places far away as Pakistan, Muscat, and Kano Nigeria, meanwhile you drive a supermarket, each to their own. Yawn! A smelly gopher is a smelly gopher, no matter how far it's s(c)ent . |
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"Marc" wrote in message ... On 17/01/2010 20:10, Peter Grange wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:02:28 -0000, "Brimstone" wrote: wrote in message ... NM wrote: On 17 Jan, 15:29, wrote: Vicko Zoomba wrote: On 16 Jan, 22:14, wrote: There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it to be worth the effort. ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher than you will ever be. Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison. Wanna bet? I don't gamble, but if you are suggesting that they education required to be a lorry driver exceeds the education of the poster known as Marc then you are wrong. The education needed to do a job has nothing to do with the education some of the people doing the job have received. Agreed, but he did say "as a lorry driver". It doesn't make any difference, you can't trust anything a lorry driver says. Don't forget this is the "profession" that is so untrustworthy that the Government had to set up weighbridges because lorry drivers can't be trusted to drive at a legal weight limit; Tachographs because they couldn't be trusted to stay within their hours, even their hours are restricted because they can't be trusted to drive when they aren't tired; speed limiters because they can't be trusted to keep to speed limits. Lorry drivers have shown over and over again that they can't be trusted, so why would lieing about education bother them? And no scientist ever manipulates results to his employers advantage in order to keep his job? No, of course not. |
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:50:05 +0000, Marc
wrote: On 17/01/2010 22:24, Conor wrote: In , Marc says... Really eating you that you couldn't make HGV isn't it. Never interested me, I like sleeping at home and having a shower in the morning. So do I. Managed to do that for the 16 years I drove trucks. The exception that proves the rule? Unlike you, I also found the time to spell "lying" correctly. It's a discussion with lorry drivers, not worth the effort. I would tread very, very carefully if I was you :-) |
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On 18/01/2010 09:38, Brimstone wrote:
"Marc" wrote in message ... On 17/01/2010 20:10, Peter Grange wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:02:28 -0000, "Brimstone" wrote: wrote in message ... NM wrote: On 17 Jan, 15:29, wrote: Vicko Zoomba wrote: On 16 Jan, 22:14, wrote: There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it to be worth the effort. ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher than you will ever be. Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison. Wanna bet? I don't gamble, but if you are suggesting that they education required to be a lorry driver exceeds the education of the poster known as Marc then you are wrong. The education needed to do a job has nothing to do with the education some of the people doing the job have received. Agreed, but he did say "as a lorry driver". It doesn't make any difference, you can't trust anything a lorry driver says. Don't forget this is the "profession" that is so untrustworthy that the Government had to set up weighbridges because lorry drivers can't be trusted to drive at a legal weight limit; Tachographs because they couldn't be trusted to stay within their hours, even their hours are restricted because they can't be trusted to drive when they aren't tired; speed limiters because they can't be trusted to keep to speed limits. Lorry drivers have shown over and over again that they can't be trusted, so why would lieing about education bother them? And no scientist ever manipulates results to his employers advantage in order to keep his job? No, of course not. Irrelevant, unless you can find examples of "scientists" having to be forced by legislation to stop their actions then there is no comparison between the trustworthiness of scientists and lorry drivers. Over decades and repeatedly, lorry drivers have been shown to be untrustworthy over loads, hours, speeds etc... |
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"JMS" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:25:40 +0000, Phil W Lee phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote: "OG" considered Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:58:02 -0000 the perfect time to write: snip That was how you responded to the survey? If so, we'd better warn CTC that it's now doubly invalid, since they were looking for responses from cyclists to this survey, and truckers in the other (so far undiscovered) one. I am an occasional cyclist - are you saying that my views do not count? Of course they count, I just wonder whether those were your actual responses that you submitted to the survey. |
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"Marc" wrote in message ... On 18/01/2010 09:38, Brimstone wrote: "Marc" wrote in message ... On 17/01/2010 20:10, Peter Grange wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:02:28 -0000, "Brimstone" wrote: wrote in message ... NM wrote: On 17 Jan, 15:29, wrote: Vicko Zoomba wrote: On 16 Jan, 22:14, wrote: There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it to be worth the effort. ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher than you will ever be. Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison. Wanna bet? I don't gamble, but if you are suggesting that they education required to be a lorry driver exceeds the education of the poster known as Marc then you are wrong. The education needed to do a job has nothing to do with the education some of the people doing the job have received. Agreed, but he did say "as a lorry driver". It doesn't make any difference, you can't trust anything a lorry driver says. Don't forget this is the "profession" that is so untrustworthy that the Government had to set up weighbridges because lorry drivers can't be trusted to drive at a legal weight limit; Tachographs because they couldn't be trusted to stay within their hours, even their hours are restricted because they can't be trusted to drive when they aren't tired; speed limiters because they can't be trusted to keep to speed limits. Lorry drivers have shown over and over again that they can't be trusted, so why would lieing about education bother them? And no scientist ever manipulates results to his employers advantage in order to keep his job? No, of course not. Irrelevant, unless you can find examples of "scientists" having to be forced by legislation to stop their actions then there is no comparison between the trustworthiness of scientists and lorry drivers. Over decades and repeatedly, lorry drivers have been shown to be untrustworthy over loads, hours, speeds etc... And why did lorry drivers behave in that manner? Go on, try. See if you can work it out. I won't be holding my breath. |
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On 18/01/2010 19:39, Brimstone wrote:
"Marc" wrote in message ... On 18/01/2010 09:38, Brimstone wrote: "Marc" wrote in message ... On 17/01/2010 20:10, Peter Grange wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:02:28 -0000, "Brimstone" wrote: wrote in message ... NM wrote: On 17 Jan, 15:29, wrote: Vicko Zoomba wrote: On 16 Jan, 22:14, wrote: There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it to be worth the effort. ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher than you will ever be. Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison. Wanna bet? I don't gamble, but if you are suggesting that they education required to be a lorry driver exceeds the education of the poster known as Marc then you are wrong. The education needed to do a job has nothing to do with the education some of the people doing the job have received. Agreed, but he did say "as a lorry driver". It doesn't make any difference, you can't trust anything a lorry driver says. Don't forget this is the "profession" that is so untrustworthy that the Government had to set up weighbridges because lorry drivers can't be trusted to drive at a legal weight limit; Tachographs because they couldn't be trusted to stay within their hours, even their hours are restricted because they can't be trusted to drive when they aren't tired; speed limiters because they can't be trusted to keep to speed limits. Lorry drivers have shown over and over again that they can't be trusted, so why would lieing about education bother them? And no scientist ever manipulates results to his employers advantage in order to keep his job? No, of course not. Irrelevant, unless you can find examples of "scientists" having to be forced by legislation to stop their actions then there is no comparison between the trustworthiness of scientists and lorry drivers. Over decades and repeatedly, lorry drivers have been shown to be untrustworthy over loads, hours, speeds etc... And why did lorry drivers behave in that manner? Because they can't be trusted..... |
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