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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is against California law. There are no exceptions for "safety reasons." So what? I'd break that law if I felt safety required it. But that should rarely be true for adults, unless the only available route has a narrow right lane, no shoulder, and a high average speed. That's the kind of road a bike rider should simply not be on. I agree with you that you had right of way, but the rider did stop and you should have let him by. Blocking the entire width of ANY path or road is wrong unless it's because people are waiting in line or it's your private property. |
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di wrote:
Your website says it all, you are the asshole, everyone is supposed to behave as you think they should. Generally Scott's site is right on. Though I don't agree with his prejudice against fat people. |
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Scott en Aztl=E1n wrote: http://tinypic.com/539poy There's a perfectly good bike lane (or shoulder, as Brent likes to call them) not five feet from these lard-asses, yet they feel the need to endanger pedestrians on the sidewalk. Why?!?!?!? People like these give good, courteous, law-abiding pedalcyclists a bad name. -- Life is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/ Adult cyclists should almost never ride on sidewalks but having said that what pedestrians is this particular pair endangering, the photographer? If so, that cameraman must have amazing reflexes to be able to narrowly escape being run over and still be able to whip out his trusty camera in time to capture that photograph as the pair... ummmm... "sped" away. Regards, Bob Hunt |
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"Joe Canuck" wrote in message
... Scott en Aztlán wrote: My wife and I went for a walk this afternoon. The sidewalk was very narrow - only wide enough for my wife and I to walk side by side. As Would you have moved into single file had you met another pedestrian? ...or would you have insisted on staying side by each? ...now be honest. Yield the sidewalk to another pedestrian? Sure. Yield the sidewalk to a bicyclist? I don't think so. One is legal and safe; the other isn't either. You were not exactly courteous with your "****head" and "lard-asses" comments or refusal to share the sidewalk. Scott lives for times like these. |
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"Scott en Aztlán" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:27:18 GMT, "DD" wrote: Wow, you sure do spend a lot of time hating, don't you? More like getting irritated. I recommend riding a bike more often. It really helps allieviate those stresses and strains of life. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky |
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:24:52 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote: +--------------------------------------+ \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 / \ 1 9 / / \ 0 / 10 / \ TROLL-O-METER / / \ / / \ / / \_____________________/____/ \ / \....................../ I'd say the meter should be pegged at 11 ("..eleven - it's one louder isn't it?..." - N. Tufnell), and smoke should be pouring out of said meter. A bit hard to do using ascii-art, but there you go... - To all who tried to argue with/reason with/abuse the Original Pillock: YHBT. YHL. HAND. |
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
My wife and I went for a walk this afternoon. The sidewalk was very narrow - only wide enough for my wife and I to walk side by side. As we walked, our son (who is away at college) called, so she took the call and was talking to him, not really paying attention to what was ahead. Presently, an older gentleman riding a bicycle approached from ahead of us. When he saw that my wife wasn't paying attention (and thus was not going to step aside to let him ride past) he came to a stop, then stood there glaring at us. As we passed by, he very petulantly began to ring his little thumb-bell repeatedly, as if to express his outrage that we didn't get out of his way. I turned to him and said "use the bike lane, ****head." Then we walked on, shaking our heads in disbelief. Why do supposedly mature adults think it's OK to ride their bikes on the sidewalk? Here's another couple we saw today on our walk: http://tinypic.com/539poy There's a perfectly good bike lane (or shoulder, as Brent likes to call them) not five feet from these lard-asses, yet they feel the need to endanger pedestrians on the sidewalk. Why?!?!?!? People like these give good, courteous, law-abiding pedalcyclists a bad name. I know I'm feeding the troll but here goes. In Pennsylvania a bicycle is considered a vehicle and as such is required to obey the same laws, ie DON'T RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK. That being said, I have been stopped by local township police and told to ride on the bike path (which is for pedestrians and bicycles). Note: I ride a Bianchi Alfana with American Classic Hubs, Nisi Laser rims, and Time peddles, not your average 'cycle. I (we) politely informed him that in the view of safety we would stick to the road where we belong. Back to the troll, calling someone a '**** head' is rude and uncalled for even if he just rode over your foot. People like this give good courteous law-abiding pedestrians a bad name. |
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
My wife and I went for a walk this afternoon. The sidewalk was very narrow - only wide enough for my wife and I to walk side by side. As we walked, our son (who is away at college) called, so she took the call and was talking to him, not really paying attention to what was ahead. Presently, an older gentleman riding a bicycle approached from ahead of us. When he saw that my wife wasn't paying attention (and thus was not going to step aside to let him ride past) he came to a stop, then stood there glaring at us. As we passed by, he very petulantly began to ring his little thumb-bell repeatedly, as if to express his outrage that we didn't get out of his way. I turned to him and said "use the bike lane, ****head." Then we walked on, shaking our heads in disbelief. Why do supposedly mature adults think it's OK to ride their bikes on the sidewalk? Here's another couple we saw today on our walk: http://tinypic.com/539poy There's a perfectly good bike lane (or shoulder, as Brent likes to call them) not five feet from these lard-asses, yet they feel the need to endanger pedestrians on the sidewalk. Why?!?!?!? People like these give good, courteous, law-abiding pedalcyclists a bad name. Granted, bicycles should not ride on the sidewalk. Having said that, I frequently ride on a trail system made up of 2 sections, a city portion officially designated a "Bike Path" and a metro park portion designated a "Multi-use trail", uses including bikes. In an average trip on this ~ 10 mile route, I will encounter no fewer than 4 pedestrians alone or in groups who are totally oblivious to their surroundings and other traffic on the path, sauntering along with the same awareness they must exhibit when stumbling from bed to toilet at 3:30 in the morning... except my guess is on THAT trip they are not listening to headphones turned up full blast. There is no attempt to stay to the right, runners using the path typically run right in the middle, and if a bike approaches from the rear & they DO notice its presence, the reaction as often as not is to step INTO it's path! In addition to that, on the city BIKE PATH portion which is not adequately policed, it's not unusual to encounter walkers who are accomanied by un-leashed dogs (ohhh, Patches wouldn't hurt anyone... CHOMP... ). While we're upbraiding bikers for inconsideration, let's not leave out the often self-absorbed pedestrians as well. They walk like they drive; which makes me even LESS likely to venture into the street with them. At least bike on walker I have a chance, bike on SUV and it's no contest. Dan |
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Dan wrote:
Scott en Aztlán wrote: My wife and I went for a walk this afternoon. The sidewalk was very narrow - only wide enough for my wife and I to walk side by side. As we walked, our son (who is away at college) called, so she took the call and was talking to him, not really paying attention to what was ahead. Presently, an older gentleman riding a bicycle approached from ahead of us. When he saw that my wife wasn't paying attention (and thus was not going to step aside to let him ride past) he came to a stop, then stood there glaring at us. As we passed by, he very petulantly began to ring his little thumb-bell repeatedly, as if to express his outrage that we didn't get out of his way. I turned to him and said "use the bike lane, ****head." Then we walked on, shaking our heads in disbelief. Why do supposedly mature adults think it's OK to ride their bikes on the sidewalk? Here's another couple we saw today on our walk: http://tinypic.com/539poy There's a perfectly good bike lane (or shoulder, as Brent likes to call them) not five feet from these lard-asses, yet they feel the need to endanger pedestrians on the sidewalk. Why?!?!?!? People like these give good, courteous, law-abiding pedalcyclists a bad name. Granted, bicycles should not ride on the sidewalk. Having said that, I frequently ride on a trail system made up of 2 sections, a city portion officially designated a "Bike Path" and a metro park portion designated a "Multi-use trail", uses including bikes. In an average trip on this ~ 10 mile route, I will encounter no fewer than 4 pedestrians alone or in groups who are totally oblivious to their surroundings and other traffic on the path, sauntering along with the same awareness they must exhibit when stumbling from bed to toilet at 3:30 in the morning... except my guess is on THAT trip they are not listening to headphones turned up full blast. There is no attempt to stay to the right, runners using the path typically run right in the middle, and if a bike approaches from the rear & they DO notice its presence, the reaction as often as not is to step INTO it's path! In addition to that, on the city BIKE PATH portion which is not adequately policed, it's not unusual to encounter walkers who are accomanied by un-leashed dogs (ohhh, Patches wouldn't hurt anyone... CHOMP... ). While we're upbraiding bikers for inconsideration, let's not leave out the often self-absorbed pedestrians as well. They walk like they drive; which makes me even LESS likely to venture into the street with them. At least bike on walker I have a chance, bike on SUV and it's no contest. Dan I often encounter pedestrians on bike paths, not unusual here since we share them. However, these pedestrians insist on walking towards the oncoming bike/pedestrian traffic in whatever lane they happen to be in. I figure their logic is they want to see what is coming and would rather not be approached from the rear by a fast moving bike. When the path is not busy this is no big deal, but it can create quite the obstacle course when the path is busy. Even worse, sometimes these pedestrians meet someone they know and stop for an extended chat in one or both lanes of the path effectively creating an obstacle... rather than moving off to the side. Then there are those mixed standing-still groups of pedestrians and cyclists having a chat on the path. Are these the same folks who stop in the middle of the freeway at night with no lights on in their vehicles? |
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