Campy Record Profit Pedal Fiasco - Advice Sought on Unintended Consequences - Peter???

So, the FSA Isis cranks on my bike were creaking like crazy. Removed,
cleaned, greased all and retorqued cups and cranks but STILL creaks. So I
figured I would do the same on pedals just in case. Park wrench slips and
jams into the bushing next to the flats on the left Campy Record ProFit
pedal. This somehow jams up the bearing, so the pedal is now difficult to
turn and rough even though there is no obvious problem externally.

I figured I would just pull it apart and fix whatever I tweaked, but.....

It appears that loosening the axle bushing should release the axle and
bearings as a single cartridge, but in fact it won't easily pull out as it
appears to see tension from the clip mechanism somehow. Is there some trick
to removing these? Once out, can it be safely disassembled? Campy lists
only the complete axle/cartridge as a spare in very non-Campy like fashion.

Clues or advice appreciated. If the answer is only "send it to Peter" that
is OK too.

Jeffrey

Note: These pedals are a few years old but work perfectly. Bearings are
(were..) free and smooth. Cleat wear is about 3-4 times better than Look,
and they NEVER pull out. Anyone weary of creaky Look cleats should give
them a shot.

1. Good chance the creaking was coming from your saddle rails, either at
the seat post or where they attach to the saddle.

2. Sounds like you knocked the mechanism askew as the cartridge assembly
should pull out easily once unscrewed (also easily).

me wrote:
So, the FSA Isis cranks on my bike were creaking like crazy. Removed,
cleaned, greased all and retorqued cups and cranks but STILL creaks. So I
figured I would do the same on pedals just in case. Park wrench slips and
jams into the bushing next to the flats on the left Campy Record ProFit
pedal. This somehow jams up the bearing, so the pedal is now difficult to
turn and rough even though there is no obvious problem externally.

I figured I would just pull it apart and fix whatever I tweaked, but.....

It appears that loosening the axle bushing should release the axle and
bearings as a single cartridge, but in fact it won't easily pull out as it
appears to see tension from the clip mechanism somehow. Is there some trick
to removing these? Once out, can it be safely disassembled? Campy lists
only the complete axle/cartridge as a spare in very non-Campy like fashion.

Clues or advice appreciated. If the answer is only "send it to Peter" that
is OK too.

Jeffrey

Note: These pedals are a few years old but work perfectly. Bearings are
(were..) free and smooth. Cleat wear is about 3-4 times better than Look,
and they NEVER pull out. Anyone weary of creaky Look cleats should give
them a shot.

Creaks are always mysterious. I finally correctly diagnosed this one as a
SLIGHTLY loose rear wheel skewer in the middle of today's ride. It sure
SOUNDED like a BB or ISIS crank creak. But it wasn't.

Given that it does not "pull out easily", any suggestions as how to extract
it beyond good old fashion brute force?

Jeffrey

"richard" wrote in message
news:Q1dXe.339547$_o.324126@attbi_s71...
1. Good chance the creaking was coming from your saddle rails, either at
the seat post or where they attach to the saddle.

2. Sounds like you knocked the mechanism askew as the cartridge assembly
should pull out easily once unscrewed (also easily).

me wrote:
So, the FSA Isis cranks on my bike were creaking like crazy. Removed,
cleaned, greased all and retorqued cups and cranks but STILL creaks. So
I figured I would do the same on pedals just in case. Park wrench slips
and jams into the bushing next to the flats on the left Campy Record
ProFit pedal. This somehow jams up the bearing, so the pedal is now
difficult to turn and rough even though there is no obvious problem
externally.

I figured I would just pull it apart and fix whatever I tweaked, but.....

It appears that loosening the axle bushing should release the axle and
bearings as a single cartridge, but in fact it won't easily pull out as
it appears to see tension from the clip mechanism somehow. Is there some
trick to removing these? Once out, can it be safely disassembled? Campy
lists only the complete axle/cartridge as a spare in very non-Campy like
fashion.

Clues or advice appreciated. If the answer is only "send it to Peter"
that is OK too.

Jeffrey

Note: These pedals are a few years old but work perfectly. Bearings are
(were..) free and smooth. Cleat wear is about 3-4 times better than
Look, and they NEVER pull out. Anyone weary of creaky Look cleats should
give them a shot.

Shop job? Hopefully, threads are recoverable. Otherwise, either the
body or the spindle are shot...

me wrote:
Creaks are always mysterious. I finally correctly diagnosed this one as a
SLIGHTLY loose rear wheel skewer in the middle of today's ride. It sure
SOUNDED like a BB or ISIS crank creak. But it wasn't.

Given that it does not "pull out easily", any suggestions as how to extract
it beyond good old fashion brute force?

Jeffrey

"richard" wrote in message
news:Q1dXe.339547$_o.324126@attbi_s71...

1. Good chance the creaking was coming from your saddle rails, either at
the seat post or where they attach to the saddle.

2. Sounds like you knocked the mechanism askew as the cartridge assembly
should pull out easily once unscrewed (also easily).

me wrote:

So, the FSA Isis cranks on my bike were creaking like crazy. Removed,
cleaned, greased all and retorqued cups and cranks but STILL creaks. So
I figured I would do the same on pedals just in case. Park wrench slips
and jams into the bushing next to the flats on the left Campy Record
ProFit pedal. This somehow jams up the bearing, so the pedal is now
difficult to turn and rough even though there is no obvious problem
externally.

I figured I would just pull it apart and fix whatever I tweaked, but.....

It appears that loosening the axle bushing should release the axle and
bearings as a single cartridge, but in fact it won't easily pull out as
it appears to see tension from the clip mechanism somehow. Is there some
trick to removing these? Once out, can it be safely disassembled? Campy
lists only the complete axle/cartridge as a spare in very non-Campy like
fashion.

Clues or advice appreciated. If the answer is only "send it to Peter"
that is OK too.

Jeffrey

Note: These pedals are a few years old but work perfectly. Bearings are
(were..) free and smooth. Cleat wear is about 3-4 times better than
Look, and they NEVER pull out. Anyone weary of creaky Look cleats should
give them a shot.

me wrote:
So, the FSA Isis cranks on my bike were creaking like crazy. Removed,
cleaned, greased all and retorqued cups and cranks but STILL creaks. So I
figured I would do the same on pedals just in case. Park wrench slips and
jams into the bushing next to the flats on the left Campy Record ProFit
pedal. This somehow jams up the bearing, so the pedal is now difficult to
turn and rough even though there is no obvious problem externally.

I figured I would just pull it apart and fix whatever I tweaked, but.....

It appears that loosening the axle bushing should release the axle and
bearings as a single cartridge, but in fact it won't easily pull out as it
appears to see tension from the clip mechanism somehow. Is there some trick
to removing these?

Once complettely unscrewed, just tap a wee bit and axle assembly will
come out. Axle 'assembly'is the only part available for ProFits

Once out, can it be safely disassembled? Campy lists
only the complete axle/cartridge as a spare in very non-Campy like fashion.

Clues or advice appreciated. If the answer is only "send it to Peter" that
is OK too.

Jeffrey

Note: These pedals are a few years old but work perfectly. Bearings are
(were..) free and smooth. Cleat wear is about 3-4 times better than Look,
and they NEVER pull out. Anyone weary of creaky Look cleats should give
them a shot.

Thanks for the advice. I've just been riding Chorus pedals off another bike
and I haven't had time for a good dissection.

I am afraid of the answer, but how much $pain$ will I feel if I have to
order a new Record cartridge assembly?

Jeffrey

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote in message
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me wrote:
So, the FSA Isis cranks on my bike were creaking like crazy. Removed,
cleaned, greased all and retorqued cups and cranks but STILL creaks. So
I
figured I would do the same on pedals just in case. Park wrench slips
and
jams into the bushing next to the flats on the left Campy Record ProFit
pedal. This somehow jams up the bearing, so the pedal is now difficult
to
turn and rough even though there is no obvious problem externally.

I figured I would just pull it apart and fix whatever I tweaked, but.....

It appears that loosening the axle bushing should release the axle and
bearings as a single cartridge, but in fact it won't easily pull out as
it
appears to see tension from the clip mechanism somehow. Is there some
trick
to removing these?

Once complettely unscrewed, just tap a wee bit and axle assembly will
come out. Axle 'assembly'is the only part available for ProFits

Once out, can it be safely disassembled? Campy lists
only the complete axle/cartridge as a spare in very non-Campy like
fashion.

Clues or advice appreciated. If the answer is only "send it to Peter"
that
is OK too.

Jeffrey

Note: These pedals are a few years old but work perfectly. Bearings are
(were..) free and smooth. Cleat wear is about 3-4 times better than
Look,
and they NEVER pull out. Anyone weary of creaky Look cleats should give
them a shot.