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Handebar broke off - nasty cash
Folks,
Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. As a side note I cycled by the crash site a week ago. I still saw the scrape marks on the asphalt and debris from my bike which I cleaned up. Interestingly all the blood was gone. Maybe a wild animal has licked it clean. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Handebar broke off - nasty cash
On 8/3/2019 2:31 PM, Joerg wrote:
Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. As a side note I cycled by the crash site a week ago. I still saw the scrape marks on the asphalt and debris from my bike which I cleaned up. Interestingly all the blood was gone. Maybe a wild animal has licked it clean. Joerg is back and in fine form! -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Handebar broke off - nasty cash
Welcome back, Joerg. I hope you're fully recovered.
Andre Jute On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 7:31:40 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote: Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. As a side note I cycled by the crash site a week ago. I still saw the scrape marks on the asphalt and debris from my bike which I cleaned up. Interestingly all the blood was gone. Maybe a wild animal has licked it clean. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2019-08-03 17:10, Andre Jute wrote:
Welcome back, Joerg. I hope you're fully recovered. Thanks. Not fully recovered but 99%. The left foot still hurts when I wear enclosed shoes. But I usually don't in summer so it doesn't matter much. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Handebar broke off - nasty cash
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. IOW, the Gnarly Trail It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. |
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Handebar broke off - nasty cash
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 5:13:35 PM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. IOW, the Gnarly Trail It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. Cameron Park https://tinyurl.com/yxwd387q |
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Handebar broke off - nasty cash
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. As a side note I cycled by the crash site a week ago. I still saw the scrape marks on the asphalt and debris from my bike which I cleaned up. Interestingly all the blood was gone. Maybe a wild animal has licked it clean. Well, I'm glad to hear you're O.K. I broke a modern (2006-ish) Cinelli bar in the same place after less than three years in service, but it happened relatively slowly. I thought the brake lever clamp had slipped but realized my lever was moving because the bar was breaking off. I rode the rest of the way to work with one-sided bars, holding on to the dangling broken section. No crash. I'm still riding with aluminum bars. They are generally safe. And don't think that steel is going to save the day. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2019-08-03 18:06, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. As a side note I cycled by the crash site a week ago. I still saw the scrape marks on the asphalt and debris from my bike which I cleaned up. Interestingly all the blood was gone. Maybe a wild animal has licked it clean. Well, I'm glad to hear you're O.K. I broke a modern (2006-ish) Cinelli bar in the same place after less than three years in service, but it happened relatively slowly. I thought the brake lever clamp had slipped but realized my lever was moving because the bar was breaking off. I rode the rest of the way to work with one-sided bars, holding on to the dangling broken section. No crash. In hindsight I was lucky even with the crash. To get out of Cameron Park to the west without using a busy two-lane county road you have to cross a hill. The descent is very steep and cyclists tend to "let'er rip", going down there at well over 40mph. So did I. Since the crash I don't do that no more. There is a drainage ditch with boulders to the right and it dead-ends into a busy road at the end of that descent. I'm still riding with aluminum bars. They are generally safe. And don't think that steel is going to save the day. That looks like a very cheap handlebar. I mean something serious for MTB use. That's what I have on it now. It's heavy. Not having a dopbar took getting used to, might cost me a few minutes on longer trips. Though I never spent much time in the drops. Amazingly three car drivers stopped immediately and almost got into an argument about who gets to bring me home, despite the bleeding. A fellow immigrant drove me home. Almost new car, quite fancy, he just turned the floor mats around in case of blood. He had a nice bike in the back and put mine on top. Couldn't believe it. There are a lot of good people in this world. What surprised me was how much muscle and power one can lose in two months. My avg speed down in the flatlands dropped from 15-16mph to almost 12mph. Creeping back up and now at 14mph but that took nearly a month. I still feel like a slowpoke. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Crashing and Aging
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 7:58:0javascript:;2 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-08-03 18:06, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: Folks, Had a nasty crash about three months ago. Long story short my handlebar broke without any warning. There was no cause such as a speed bump or pothole. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg The handlebar was not cheap, an ITM Mondial. It seems they botched the design in that they used a non-coated steel stiffener tube in the center. This corroded the aluminum from the inside out, interestingly in riding direction. Possibly because that's where the headwinds are hitting it and maybe cause condensation: http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Handlebar1.jpg Luckily it didn't happen 1/2h earlier where I was coming down a steep hill at more than 40mph, with a rocky drainage ditch. It happened at a leisurely travel speed of 15-17mph. Thanks to the fact that it was a very wide bike lane I had space to roll and at the end I skidded to avoid traffic. In the lane I'd have crashed into the path of vehicles. About the only body part that wasn't hurt was my head, thanks to the helmet. http://analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/Helmet1.jpg I am back in the saddle. I no longer trust aluminum and certainly not any kind of plastic stuff so the road bike now has a flat steel MTB handlebar. Put MeetLocks ergo handles on it, rides nicely. As a side note I cycled by the crash site a week ago. I still saw the scrape marks on the asphalt and debris from my bike which I cleaned up. Interestingly all the blood was gone. Maybe a wild animal has licked it clean. Well, I'm glad to hear you're O.K. I broke a modern (2006-ish) Cinelli bar in the same place after less than three years in service, but it happened relatively slowly. I thought the brake lever clamp had slipped but realized my lever was moving because the bar was breaking off. I rode the rest of the way to work with one-sided bars, holding on to the dangling broken section. No crash. In hindsight I was lucky even with the crash. To get out of Cameron Park to the west without using a busy two-lane county road you have to cross a hill. The descent is very steep and cyclists tend to "let'er rip", going down there at well over 40mph. So did I. Since the crash I don't do that no more. There is a drainage ditch with boulders to the right and it dead-ends into a busy road at the end of that descent. I'm still riding with aluminum bars. They are generally safe. And don't think that steel is going to save the day. That looks like a very cheap handlebar. I mean something serious for MTB use. That's what I have on it now. It's heavy. Not having a dopbar took getting used to, might cost me a few minutes on longer trips. Though I never spent much time in the drops. Amazingly three car drivers stopped immediately and almost got into an argument about who gets to bring me home, despite the bleeding. A fellow immigrant drove me home. Almost new car, quite fancy, he just turned the floor mats around in case of blood. He had a nice bike in the back and put mine on top. Couldn't believe it. There are a lot of good people in this world. What surprised me was how much muscle and power one can lose in two months. My avg speed down in the flatlands dropped from 15-16mph to almost 12mph. Creeping back up and now at 14mph but that took nearly a month. I still feel like a slowpoke. Joerg, I'm hijacking your thread for a moment. I was on a ride today with my riding buddy of 19 years when I touched his rear wheel with my front and went down. Dopey and not something I've done in decades. I was changing bottles and kind of bobbling around, expecting him to go straight when he turned. It was low speed, so no "helmet saved my life" claim. Anyway, I twisted my back as I fell, and when I hit the ground -- every last O2 molecule was knocked out of my lungs. 30 years ago, I would have jumped up and pretended it didn't happen. Instead, I just stayed down, wondering if I would ever get up. As you grow old, dopey little crashes are so much more consequential. The last 30 miles of that ride were the hardest I've ridden in my life. My friend was on fire, and we were really cooking before the mishap -- 62 miles and about 4000 feet of climbing, mostly rollers with a few multi-mile climbs on the way home. Beautiful, hot day, but a struggle to get home. -- Jay Beattie. |
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Crashing and Aging
On 8/4/2019 8:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
As you grow old, dopey little crashes are so much more consequential. This is certainly true. And of course, spectacular crashes are even more consequential. Someone asked me today "What's the fastest you've ever gone on a bicycle?" I answered "54 miles per hour. But I wouldn't do that today." I think it's entirely reasonable to be aware of our changing limitations, and to adjust our behavior to account for them. That can very likely mean descending slower, cornering slower and more cautiously, maintaining greater distance between riding partners, watching further down the road for bad surfaces or potential traffic conflicts, etc. I've ridden avidly as an adult for over 45 years. In that time, I've had two moving on-road falls, one at ~10 mph, one at ~3 mph. I don't intend to have another, and I've given up the risky variety of mountain biking. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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