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Old February 8th 19, 04:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Am 08.02.2019 um 03:51 schrieb Frank Krygowski:
On 2/7/2019 8:23 PM, jbeattie wrote:


*Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper)
and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg
(I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle).


How do they handle entering and exiting that central bike lane?

At an old motorway bridge in Germany from the 1960s, they have stairs on
both sides of the river which is perfectly fine for pedestrians/joggers
and better than cycling to the nearest other bridge for cyclists.

Google Maps aerial view start of lane https://goo.gl/maps/kXPd4oqbmBp

entry tower on ground level
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...49726352947695
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Old February 8th 19, 04:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Duane wrote:
On 08/02/2019 9:51 a.m., wrote:
On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:13:45 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 6:51:55 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 8:23 PM, jbeattie wrote:


Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper)
and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg
(I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle).
How do they handle entering and exiting that central bike lane?

--
- Frank Krygowski



This woman is oddly creepy, but starting at 1:00 the video show the
approach from the Washington side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB61GrLiX3M

-- Jay Beattie



Indeed creepy. I always wondered what the fun is for a recreatinal ride
on that kind of roads with cars buzzing by left and right. Would drive me crazy.

Lou


Well as far as the bridge, it's a way to get between Washington State
and Vancouver BC. I assume the point is for her to go for a ride around
Vancouver. Maybe she's going crab cakes in Stanley Park...


I think the bridge goes to Vancouver WA, not Vancouver BC.

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Old February 8th 19, 04:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2019-02-07 17:23, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:51:02 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-06 18:02, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 5:04:48 PM UTC-8, Mark J.
wrote:
Stopped at the LBS on the way home today, to look at a Trek
gravel bike in person. There are a lot of unpaved roads here
in the Willamette Valley as well as in the mountains around
it.

It was nice, certainly drool-worthy in the
I'm-not-really-serious-yet-about-buying sort of way.

There were lots of attachment points for use on long, hot
summer rides that don't go by a 7-Eleven.

I like the wider bars (they looked wider than the 46's I have
on my Domane, but maybe they were the same). Hydraulic disks
(see our latest RBR discussion, heh), nice wide tires.

THEN

when I was talking about fender mounts, the guy mentions
putting fenders on a "Domane +" E-bike, so I go take a look at
that.

It's a full carbon fast road bike with a electric assist.
Forgive me, RBR, for I have sinned and coveted this bike. I'm
going to try hard to wait until at least 70 before getting one,
partly 'cause I fear the decline into potatohood that it could
spark, but I was tempted. Having another 100-200W in one's
pocket would be something.

Mark J.

The Bike Gallery (Trek) shop downtown also has one of the Orbea
Gain series.
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m20-usa-19


Orbea also has a groovy gravel e-assist:
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m21-usa-19


Also available in aluminum, although I'm not a 1X fan. The stealth
e-assist bike is becoming really popular. Muzi's Bianchi is
beautiful. Some of the e-assists aren't that stealthy. The
Cannondale Synapse looks like a pregnant guppy. I'd get a
full-on eBike if I lived somewhere like Vancouver and commuted to
downtown -- beat the traffic over the bridge and fly into town.
It's kind of like cheating.



It is. Might as well get the real deal then, zero to 60mph in 3.4
seconds:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...if5oi1tjpg.jpg



Neat, but you get stuck in traffic, at least in Oregon where
lane-sharing is NOT legal. In California you can split the lanes on
your eMotorcycle which, BTW, scares the hell out of visitors -- like
me. I don't remember it being legal when I lived there.

Around here, you could take the bike lanes/paths and beat the
traffic. Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is
cheaper) and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown
PDX.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg
(I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the
middle). Watch for trucks, though:
https://pcdn.columbian.com/wp-conten...YAAJtQx_1.jpeg


It's quite narrow. In California you'd have homeless sleeping there.
They do not always react friendly when someone on a bike in encroaching
on "their" space and some this had to be censored activist judge
declared it "unconstitutional" to make them move away from such spots.


But for my current short commute and weekend riding, yes, going
electric would move me one step closer to the potato abyss.


A buddy is trying to convince me to retrofit my bikes with electric
like he did. I keep telling him "When I am 85. Maybe. Or maybe
not".


The hardest part of growing old is learning to be slow and happy.
I've got the slow part down, but happy is eluding me. I may have to
get a stealth e-assist bike to get happy. Or medication. We'll see.


I am ok with slowing down. I can still put down the hammer and pass even
young whippersnappers but 20mins into that I run out of breath.

My medicine is stopping here and there to pet a dog or a horse, talk to
people, watch fighter jet pilots practice, sit on a rock in a pristine
nature environment doing a difficult electronics design. Of course, this
often requires the use of an MTB. Which is one reason why I have it.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Old February 8th 19, 04:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 08/02/2019 10:37 a.m., Ralph Barone wrote:
Duane wrote:
On 08/02/2019 9:51 a.m., wrote:
On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:13:45 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 6:51:55 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 8:23 PM, jbeattie wrote:


Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper)
and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg
(I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle).
How do they handle entering and exiting that central bike lane?

--
- Frank Krygowski



This woman is oddly creepy, but starting at 1:00 the video show the
approach from the Washington side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB61GrLiX3M

-- Jay Beattie


Indeed creepy. I always wondered what the fun is for a recreatinal ride
on that kind of roads with cars buzzing by left and right. Would drive me crazy.

Lou


Well as far as the bridge, it's a way to get between Washington State
and Vancouver BC. I assume the point is for her to go for a ride around
Vancouver. Maybe she's going crab cakes in Stanley Park...


I think the bridge goes to Vancouver WA, not Vancouver BC.


Yeah, I was mistaken. I was thinking of Vancouver Island.
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Old February 8th 19, 05:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2/7/2019 11:13 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 6:51:55 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 8:23 PM, jbeattie wrote:


Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper) and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg (I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle).

How do they handle entering and exiting that central bike lane?

--
- Frank Krygowski




This woman is oddly creepy, but starting at 1:00 the video show the approach from the Washington side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB61GrLiX3M


OK, that looks well thought out.

I'm sure it's damned noisy to ride, but I wish every freeway ever
constructed had bike accommodations included, one way or another. And
crossing opportunities for bikes and peds at least once per mile in
cities. It would have added almost nothing, percentagewise, to the cost
of the freeway.

Regarding noise: Once when I rode from Toronto back to NE Ohio, I was
right alongside a Canadian freeway for quite a while. I was very glad
about the noise barrier wall that was sometimes there.


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old February 8th 19, 05:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2/7/2019 10:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/7/2019 9:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2019 21:08:26 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 2/6/2019 8:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 08:12:58 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

if one desires electric assist why not go all the way and invest in
something that has comfortable seats and air conditioning :-)

No problem.* Comfort saddle:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=aluminum+tractor+seat
and mist cooling:
https://spruzzamist.com


meh.
If I were ever to buy a powered two wheeler it would be
something stunningly beautiful:

https://barnfinds.com/vintage-v-powe...idson-panhead/

But I won't.
Still, they are just sexy to ogle aren't they?


Nope.* Anything that's as old as I am, isn't exactly sexy.* Besides, I
lost my fascination with motorcycles at age 18 when I lost an argument
with a large tree.

This would be more to my liking, except that I would probably wear a
helmet, goggles, and some road rash protection:
"The JET Bicycle - The most dangerous unsafe bike EVER"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKHz7wOjb9w

Better:
"TurboJet Scooter" (3 parts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MUGIr85zfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcd3vg-5hDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jH0sVCM9Q

More Better:
https://youtu.be/zsXWspo5hrc* Jet Kart
https://youtu.be/-rHOqwmqZIQ* Mini Jet Kids Scooter
https://youtu.be/QxpHJipB67g* Jet BBQ
https://youtu.be/DMDLaQD8yAU* Jet Drift Trike
https://youtu.be/-fDM9Eb16Do* Jet Kettle
https://youtu.be/EorMrpM6q9Q* No Weld Jet Engine
https://youtu.be/bKHz7wOjb9w* Jet Bike (same as first URL)

The Mini Jet Kids Scooter looks like a fun project.* Nice 3D printing
job for the fan mount.* Good choice of battery except it costs about
$80.




To each his own. I can maintain/repair anything on a classic panhead
Harley. I suppose you could just screen a new chip by the side of the
road...


I prefer my old BMW. I _can_ maintain anything on it. But unlike a
Harley, I hardly ever have to. ;-)


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old February 8th 19, 06:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 7:38:33 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-07 17:23, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:51:02 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-06 18:02, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 5:04:48 PM UTC-8, Mark J.
wrote:
Stopped at the LBS on the way home today, to look at a Trek
gravel bike in person. There are a lot of unpaved roads here
in the Willamette Valley as well as in the mountains around
it.

It was nice, certainly drool-worthy in the
I'm-not-really-serious-yet-about-buying sort of way.

There were lots of attachment points for use on long, hot
summer rides that don't go by a 7-Eleven.

I like the wider bars (they looked wider than the 46's I have
on my Domane, but maybe they were the same). Hydraulic disks
(see our latest RBR discussion, heh), nice wide tires.

THEN

when I was talking about fender mounts, the guy mentions
putting fenders on a "Domane +" E-bike, so I go take a look at
that.

It's a full carbon fast road bike with a electric assist.
Forgive me, RBR, for I have sinned and coveted this bike. I'm
going to try hard to wait until at least 70 before getting one,
partly 'cause I fear the decline into potatohood that it could
spark, but I was tempted. Having another 100-200W in one's
pocket would be something.

Mark J.

The Bike Gallery (Trek) shop downtown also has one of the Orbea
Gain series.
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m20-usa-19


Orbea also has a groovy gravel e-assist:
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m21-usa-19


Also available in aluminum, although I'm not a 1X fan. The stealth
e-assist bike is becoming really popular. Muzi's Bianchi is
beautiful. Some of the e-assists aren't that stealthy. The
Cannondale Synapse looks like a pregnant guppy. I'd get a
full-on eBike if I lived somewhere like Vancouver and commuted to
downtown -- beat the traffic over the bridge and fly into town.
It's kind of like cheating.


It is. Might as well get the real deal then, zero to 60mph in 3.4
seconds:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...if5oi1tjpg.jpg



Neat, but you get stuck in traffic, at least in Oregon where
lane-sharing is NOT legal. In California you can split the lanes on
your eMotorcycle which, BTW, scares the hell out of visitors -- like
me. I don't remember it being legal when I lived there.

Around here, you could take the bike lanes/paths and beat the
traffic. Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is
cheaper) and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown
PDX.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg
(I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the
middle). Watch for trucks, though:
https://pcdn.columbian.com/wp-conten...AAJtQx_1..jpeg


It's quite narrow. In California you'd have homeless sleeping there.
They do not always react friendly when someone on a bike in encroaching
on "their" space and some this had to be censored activist judge
declared it "unconstitutional" to make them move away from such spots.


It's the standard width of a separated bike path. Homeless are further south along I-205, which is like little Calcutta or Night of the Living Dead.

A judge is declared an activist judge if he or she reaches a conclusion that someone doesn't like. BTW, it would be activist judges -- plural. The Circuit Court of Appeals (including the Ninth Circuit) sit in panels of three.. I just won a case there for an insurance company in the Ninth Circuit and have won for a number of business defendants, so its not entirely a liberal give-away court. My favorite was representing Wild Turkey, Coors, Miller and Anheuser-Bush in a suit brought by a pro se prisoner who sued the various brewers and distillers for selling him booze and beer, which ruined his life and led him down the road to criminality. No argument and a memo opinion. The court is pretty tough on crazy pro se litigants.

-- Jay Beattie.


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Old February 8th 19, 08:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:23:11 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:51:02 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-06 18:02, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 5:04:48 PM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
Stopped at the LBS on the way home today, to look at a Trek gravel
bike in person. There are a lot of unpaved roads here in the
Willamette Valley as well as in the mountains around it.

It was nice, certainly drool-worthy in the
I'm-not-really-serious-yet-about-buying sort of way.

There were lots of attachment points for use on long, hot summer
rides that don't go by a 7-Eleven.

I like the wider bars (they looked wider than the 46's I have on
my Domane, but maybe they were the same). Hydraulic disks (see our
latest RBR discussion, heh), nice wide tires.

THEN

when I was talking about fender mounts, the guy mentions putting
fenders on a "Domane +" E-bike, so I go take a look at that.

It's a full carbon fast road bike with a electric assist. Forgive
me, RBR, for I have sinned and coveted this bike. I'm going to try
hard to wait until at least 70 before getting one, partly 'cause I
fear the decline into potatohood that it could spark, but I was
tempted. Having another 100-200W in one's pocket would be
something.

Mark J.

The Bike Gallery (Trek) shop downtown also has one of the Orbea Gain
series.
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m20-usa-19
Orbea also has a groovy gravel e-assist:
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m21-usa-19
Also available in aluminum, although I'm not a 1X fan. The stealth
e-assist bike is becoming really popular. Muzi's Bianchi is
beautiful. Some of the e-assists aren't that stealthy. The
Cannondale Synapse looks like a pregnant guppy. I'd get a full-on
eBike if I lived somewhere like Vancouver and commuted to downtown --
beat the traffic over the bridge and fly into town. It's kind of
like cheating.



It is. Might as well get the real deal then, zero to 60mph in 3.4 seconds:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...if5oi1tjpg.jpg


Neat, but you get stuck in traffic, at least in Oregon where lane-sharing is NOT legal. In California you can split the lanes on your eMotorcycle which, BTW, scares the hell out of visitors -- like me. I don't remember it being legal when I lived there.

Around here, you could take the bike lanes/paths and beat the traffic. Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper) and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg (I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle). Watch for trucks, though: https://pcdn.columbian.com/wp-conten...YAAJtQx_1.jpeg


But for my current short commute and weekend riding,
yes, going electric would move me one step closer to the potato
abyss.


A buddy is trying to convince me to retrofit my bikes with electric like
he did. I keep telling him "When I am 85. Maybe. Or maybe not".


The hardest part of growing old is learning to be slow and happy. I've got the slow part down, but happy is eluding me. I may have to get a stealth e-assist bike to get happy. Or medication. We'll see.

-- Jay Beattie.


Just had another lane-splitter seriously injured this morning on the news. The problem is that you're not supposed to lane split more than 15 mph faster than the adjacent traffic and NO ONE does that. The traffic will be stopped and the motorcycles will be splitting lanes at 60+ mph. Then some knucklehead who is in the HOV without permission will decide that the lane next to him is going 1/100th mph faster and will pull over without looking. SMASH - and another one bites the dust.
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Old February 8th 19, 08:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 6:51:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:13:45 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 6:51:55 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 8:23 PM, jbeattie wrote:


Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper) and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg (I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle).
How do they handle entering and exiting that central bike lane?

--
- Frank Krygowski




This woman is oddly creepy, but starting at 1:00 the video show the approach from the Washington side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB61GrLiX3M

-- Jay Beattie



Indeed creepy. I always wondered what the fun is for a recreatinal ride on that kind of roads with cars buzzing by left and right. Would drive me crazy.

Lou


In that case do not ride in California. Not only will they pass you on both sides and then pull directly in front of you and then brake but they will not allow you to pass a car stopped by the side of the road.
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Old February 9th 19, 12:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:23:11 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:51:02 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-06 18:02, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 5:04:48 PM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
Stopped at the LBS on the way home today, to look at a Trek gravel
bike in person. There are a lot of unpaved roads here in the
Willamette Valley as well as in the mountains around it.

It was nice, certainly drool-worthy in the
I'm-not-really-serious-yet-about-buying sort of way.

There were lots of attachment points for use on long, hot summer
rides that don't go by a 7-Eleven.

I like the wider bars (they looked wider than the 46's I have on
my Domane, but maybe they were the same). Hydraulic disks (see our
latest RBR discussion, heh), nice wide tires.

THEN

when I was talking about fender mounts, the guy mentions putting
fenders on a "Domane +" E-bike, so I go take a look at that.

It's a full carbon fast road bike with a electric assist. Forgive
me, RBR, for I have sinned and coveted this bike. I'm going to try
hard to wait until at least 70 before getting one, partly 'cause I
fear the decline into potatohood that it could spark, but I was
tempted. Having another 100-200W in one's pocket would be
something.

Mark J.

The Bike Gallery (Trek) shop downtown also has one of the Orbea Gain
series.
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m20-usa-19
Orbea also has a groovy gravel e-assist:
https://www.orbea.com/us-en/ebikes/r...ain-m21-usa-19
Also available in aluminum, although I'm not a 1X fan. The stealth
e-assist bike is becoming really popular. Muzi's Bianchi is
beautiful. Some of the e-assists aren't that stealthy. The
Cannondale Synapse looks like a pregnant guppy. I'd get a full-on
eBike if I lived somewhere like Vancouver and commuted to downtown --
beat the traffic over the bridge and fly into town. It's kind of
like cheating.


It is. Might as well get the real deal then, zero to 60mph in 3.4 seconds:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...if5oi1tjpg.jpg


Neat, but you get stuck in traffic, at least in Oregon where lane-sharing is NOT legal. In California you can split the lanes on your eMotorcycle which, BTW, scares the hell out of visitors -- like me. I don't remember it being legal when I lived there.

Around here, you could take the bike lanes/paths and beat the traffic. Come over the I-205 bridge from Vancouver (where living is cheaper) and take bike paths and lanes almost all the way downtown PDX. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dge_aerial.jpg (I-205 bridge between Oregon and Washington -- bike line up the middle). Watch for trucks, though: https://pcdn.columbian.com/wp-conten...YAAJtQx_1.jpeg


But for my current short commute and weekend riding,
yes, going electric would move me one step closer to the potato
abyss.


A buddy is trying to convince me to retrofit my bikes with electric like
he did. I keep telling him "When I am 85. Maybe. Or maybe not".


The hardest part of growing old is learning to be slow and happy. I've got the slow part down, but happy is eluding me. I may have to get a stealth e-assist bike to get happy. Or medication. We'll see.

-- Jay Beattie.


Just had another lane-splitter seriously injured this morning on the news.. The problem is that you're not supposed to lane split more than 15 mph faster than the adjacent traffic and NO ONE does that. The traffic will be stopped and the motorcycles will be splitting lanes at 60+ mph. Then some knucklehead who is in the HOV without permission will decide that the lane next to him is going 1/100th mph faster and will pull over without looking. SMASH - and another one bites the dust.


I'm surprised they don't die on a daily basis. The practice seems crazy to me.

-- Jay Beattie.
 




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