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Improving indexing on 9-sp.
I'm frustrated after failing to achieve accurate indexing on a hardtail
downhill/jump MTB. It has a small range cassete and a Deore wide range rear derailleur. I guess the downhill crowd likes those 'corncob' gears. Should they be mated with short-arm road deraileurs? Any other suggestions for improving shifting accuracy? Dan Christopherson Lopez Island WA |
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daveornee wrote:
Wrote: I'm frustrated after failing to achieve accurate indexing on a hardtail downhill/jump MTB. It has a small range cassete and a Deore wide range rear derailleur. I guess the downhill crowd likes those 'corncob' gears. Should they be mated with short-arm road deraileurs? Any other suggestions for improving shifting accuracy? Dan Christopherson Lopez Island WA A shorter RD likely will help. Doubtful. If the OP has a DH/jump bike, it's much more likely that his derailleur hanger is bent. Long or short cage makes virtually no difference in practice. When you think about it, it makes sense. The upper pulley is just as close to the cassette in a road der versus a MTB der. OP, the downhill crowd likes single-ring, wide-range in rear gearing... dirt jumpers use the corncobs because they have a very narrow and specific set of speeds they use over and over and over. Much less varied terrain in dirt jumping. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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The frame is a Banshee Morphine with rear-opening dropouts. The axle is
adjusted way back so the brake rotor doesn't contact the caliper body. This puts the jockey pulley even further from the cassette. The owner likes as short a chain as possible for less derailment on front (it has two chainrings, no chain retention system). The B-screw is adjusted all the way out to get the jockey pulley closer. Dan Christopherson Lopez Island Wa |
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The derailleur hanger and derailleur are straight.
Dan Christopherson Lopez Island Wa |
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Rear brake is a Hayes HFX-9 HD
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Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
daveornee wrote: Wrote: I'm frustrated after failing to achieve accurate indexing on a hardtail downhill/jump MTB. It has a small range cassete and a Deore wide range rear derailleur. I guess the downhill crowd likes those 'corncob' gears. Should they be mated with short-arm road deraileurs? Any other suggestions for improving shifting accuracy? Dan Christopherson Lopez Island WA A shorter RD likely will help. Doubtful. If the OP has a DH/jump bike, it's much more likely that his derailleur hanger is bent. Long or short cage makes virtually no difference in practice. When you think about it, it makes sense. The upper pulley is just as close to the cassette in a road der versus a MTB der. Except that long-cage mechs are designed to swing down at the same angle as the average wide-range cassette, whereas road mechs are designed with the shallower angle of a road cassette in mind. I've got no end of trouble with a 12-23 I put on my long-cage-equipped touring bike for a flat commute, you can see the angles going all to pot from one end of the range to the other. The shifting is crisper when I put the 11-30 back on, which given the larger jumps between the sprockets is quite significant. In terms of suggestions, our dirt-bike-obsessed sister shop stocks Tiagra and 105 rear mechs, and I can assure you they don't go on road bikes. Assuming all the usual culprits of cable run have been checked, a short-cage rear mech might help. OP, the downhill crowd likes single-ring, wide-range in rear gearing... dirt jumpers use the corncobs because they have a very narrow and specific set of speeds they use over and over and over. Much less varied terrain in dirt jumping. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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"Marvin" wrote in message oups.com... Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote: daveornee wrote: Wrote: I'm frustrated after failing to achieve accurate indexing on a hardtail downhill/jump MTB. It has a small range cassete and a Deore wide range rear derailleur. I guess the downhill crowd likes those 'corncob' gears. Should they be mated with short-arm road deraileurs? Any other suggestions for improving shifting accuracy? Dan Christopherson Lopez Island WA A shorter RD likely will help. Doubtful. If the OP has a DH/jump bike, it's much more likely that his derailleur hanger is bent. Long or short cage makes virtually no difference in practice. When you think about it, it makes sense. The upper pulley is just as close to the cassette in a road der versus a MTB der. Except that long-cage mechs are designed to swing down at the same angle as the average wide-range cassette, whereas road mechs are designed with the shallower angle of a road cassette in mind. Good point. I had never actually considered this, and compared a road and MTB der in my stash. Sure enough, the MTB (short cage) moves at a steeper angle than the road one. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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