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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
PJay wrote: I'm moving on slowly and surely learning bike maintenance but seem to have developed a bit of a block around adjusting aheadsets! I think it stems (excuse the pun) from keenly fitting a stem some years ago, riding to the bike shop and being told that there was some movement in the headset. Somewhere along the line I also picked up the knowledge that a loose headset can result in an ovalised headtube. I've since adjusted my headset and got an 'OK' from the LBS so I know that I can do it but still feel really unsure of myself and keep imagining that I'm going to ovalise the headtube. I've done a lot of maintenance tasks, including BBs and reckon that, if I can get my headset phobia sorted, I'm pretty close to being able to build up my own bike (headset pressing aside). Any confidence building tips out there? Once no play is detectable at the lower race is the pre-load sufficient (I have the tendancy to err on the side of overtightening and be a bit heavy handed)? Also, how easy is it to ovalise a headtube, would a small amount of slack do it or would it have to be blindingly (and un-rideably) obvious that the headset was loose before damage would be done! I feel a bit of a numpty posting this but I thought I'd ask :-) (don't know the smiley for embarassed!). Cheers, PJay Are you in the early phase of being fazed, or are you nearing the 'over it' phase? |
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Why do headsets phase me so?
On 22 Nov 2005 16:01:15 -0800, "Vee" wrote:
Ovalizing a headtube requires considerable neglect, or exceptionally hard use, or both. Unless there's an interface problem between your current headset and frame, you don't have to worry about it. Only time I've had it happen was with a JIS/ISO mismatch between the headset and frame (on a secondhand bike). The cups and the fork cone weren't so much pressfit as held in place by the threaded upper race. Jasper |
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Why do headsets phase me so?
On 23 Nov 2005 04:59:51 -0800, "Vee" wrote:
Are you simply saying that the act of adjustment cannot damage the head tube, or are you also saying that riding with a loose headset won't hurt the frame? You can't ovalize your head tube by over-tightening the top-cap, of course. But am I wrong in thinking that riding with a loose headset allows the fork to bang around enough that the fork race and lower headset cup will eventually loosen? Nope. When you're actually on the bike, half of your weight is pressing down on the lower bearing, which means it's not loose, pretty much by definition. The race that becomes loose is the top one, which mainly deals with a force at the rear of the race that keeps the fork from tilting backward. It's certainly possible to damage the bearing that way, but you're not gonna fret away the pressfit of the cup and the headtube. There are some issues with integrated headsets, though, because the bearings sit loosely in the headtube, rather than pressfit, so it's possible to erode the bearing seat there. Then there's undersized headset cups (like everything else, they come in more than one size), which can definitely cause ovalization on both ends. Jasper |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
Probably middling, but hopefully approaching the less fazed phase! :-)
"Scott" wrote in message oups.com... PJay wrote: I'm moving on slowly and surely learning bike maintenance but seem to have developed a bit of a block around adjusting aheadsets! I think it stems (excuse the pun) from keenly fitting a stem some years ago, riding to the bike shop and being told that there was some movement in the headset. Somewhere along the line I also picked up the knowledge that a loose headset can result in an ovalised headtube. I've since adjusted my headset and got an 'OK' from the LBS so I know that I can do it but still feel really unsure of myself and keep imagining that I'm going to ovalise the headtube. I've done a lot of maintenance tasks, including BBs and reckon that, if I can get my headset phobia sorted, I'm pretty close to being able to build up my own bike (headset pressing aside). Any confidence building tips out there? Once no play is detectable at the lower race is the pre-load sufficient (I have the tendancy to err on the side of overtightening and be a bit heavy handed)? Also, how easy is it to ovalise a headtube, would a small amount of slack do it or would it have to be blindingly (and un-rideably) obvious that the headset was loose before damage would be done! I feel a bit of a numpty posting this but I thought I'd ask :-) (don't know the smiley for embarassed!). Cheers, PJay Are you in the early phase of being fazed, or are you nearing the 'over it' phase? |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
"PJay" wrote: Probably middling, but hopefully approaching the less fazed phase! :-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Okay, as long as you're not being two-phased. |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
I just kinda like the word "numpty" ....
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "PJay" wrote: Probably middling, but hopefully approaching the less fazed phase! :-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Okay, as long as you're not being two-phased. |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
: Are you in the early phase of being fazed, or are you nearing the 'over : it' phase? This reminds me of people writing that they "tow the line" or have music "touch a cord" or try to "loose some weight"...so many of those common idioms that people miss by a mile. Pat in TX |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
"Pat" wrote: (clip)..so many of those common idioms that people miss by a mile. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You sleigh me, Pat. |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
Pat wrote:
Are you in the early phase of being fazed, or are you nearing the 'over it' phase? This reminds me of people writing that they "tow the line" or have music "touch a cord" or try to "loose some weight"...so many of those common idioms that people miss by a mile. Not to be picky, but I don't think all three of those examples fit. "Loose some weight" is just misspelling "lose" (surprisingly common for some reason). "Tow the line" and "touch (strike?) a cord" reveal a more profound carelessness (to be charitable). The OP's faux pas (foe pa?) probably falls somewhere in-between. Bill "slow night" S. |
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Why do spelling errors faze me so?
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