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Coincidentally, I was just pointed to this excellent article:
http://thinkingaboutcycling.wordpres...ar-of-cycling/ A lot of what he says may sound familiar. - Frank Krygowski |
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Fear of cycling
"Frank Krygowski" wrote in message
... Coincidentally, I was just pointed to this excellent article: http://thinkingaboutcycling.wordpres...ar-of-cycling/ A lot of what he says may sound familiar. Fear? Mebbe in the abstract. Heh, the length of this article is enough to strike fear.... The nitty-er gritty is that we have basically been mind****ed out of doing *anything* productive, and part of our assessment of worth is, well, horsepower -- of which, I am finding out, we are good for about 1/7th. Heh, not even 1.0 hp. You can essentially judge a culture by the entertainment it chooses.... our doom started with game shows, continues with Reality TV, and proly the next cultural tittylation will be PPV executions -- after all, we DO need the revenue, right? Having said all that, one legitimate fear is this: If you didn't learn how to ride a bike as a kid, it will be disproportionately difficult to learn as an adult -- and with much more risk. -- EA - Frank Krygowski |
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On Mar 6, 7:32*pm, "Existential Angst" wrote:
Having said all that, one legitimate fear is this: * * If you didn't learn how to ride a bike as a kid, it will be disproportionately difficult to learn as an adult -- and with much more risk. -- EA It`s the same with swimming and I would not be surprsed at the coincidence |
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
Coincidentally, I was just pointed to this excellent article: http://thinkingaboutcycling.wordpres...ar-of-cycling/ A lot of what he says may sound familiar. "Yet this fear of cycling has been insufficiently analysed; many efforts have been made to challenge it, but few to understand it." Yes, you make many efforts to challenge it, yet few are successful. Maybe it's because you don't understand it. JS. |
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James wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote: Coincidentally, I was just pointed to this excellent article: http://thinkingaboutcycling.wordpres...ar-of-cycling/ A lot of what he says may sound familiar. "Yet this fear of cycling has been insufficiently analysed; many efforts have been made to challenge it, but few to understand it." Yes, you make many efforts to challenge it, yet few are successful. Maybe it's because you don't understand it. JS. Shouldn't be so hard to understand. Here in Denmark there is no such fear to speak of, and this is undoubtedly because there are cycleways almost everywhere. Coming from Australia, where I acquired a set of defense reflexes (mainly, trust no cars, they were basically out to get me), I am always amazed at how car drivers here are careful of bikes and actually wait for them to go past before making turns. No need to fear cycling here. My son cycled in London for a year and reported how dangerous it was. -- Dieter Britz (dieterhansbritzatgmail.com) |
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On 3/6/2011 4:40 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Coincidentally, I was just pointed to this excellent article: http://thinkingaboutcycling.wordpres...ar-of-cycling/ A lot of what he says may sound familiar. - Frank Krygowski It's a rather broad (and wordy) dissertation. I found the sociological/psychological parts interesting. I thought he soft-pedaled the elephant in the room, which is motorist aggression and hostility towards cyclists. Part of the intimidation factor is the awareness of most cyclists of both the explicit hostility and willful negligence of motorists and the general social tolerance (institutional and cultural) for both. Given the stated orientation of the piece, I think the topic got surprisingly scant coverage. Americans know they're increasingly obese and unfit and we're in a precarious position with energy supplies and ecological issues, but they're allowed to project, in the psychological sense, their guilt for over-consumption into hostility for the presumed smugness of cyclists, in the crudest form of social backlash, yet he finds it unworthy of mention. He presses the point of helmet promotion as a central plank of the fearful cycling campaign, but doesn't recognize the virtually ubiquitous promotion of helmets in other sports, and curiously and paradoxically, finds the promotion and requirement of safety equipment in motor vehicles to create an enhanced sense of safety there. He cites Ken Kifer's web content about the over-estimation of cycling dangers without revealing the fact that Kifer was killed by a motorist. He does give rather thorough treatment to the trend over the decades to ever more blame the victim in motor vehicle carnage. He accurately describes the message being given to children as "be safe" rather than "have fun", along with the stern contained implication that a failure of safe behavior and its tragic consequences would almost always be the fault of the child, despite evidence to the contrary. He does not make the obvious connection to the basic premise, equally unsupported by the facts, that vehicular cycling advocates make, which is despite the touted safety of cycling, the virtually non-existent risks can be virtually completely mitigated through modification of cyclist behavior, consisting mostly of adhering to motoring principles. This oversight is particularly glaring when he cites the infamous NYC study of cyclist and pedestrian fatalities that found, unlike the "official" reports, nearly 100% motorist culpability. In short, he draws the dots but fails to connect them. In his treatment of the question of facilities, he reveals a curious flip-flopping, potshots covered by a veneer of objectivity, as in his opening sentence: "Although often criticized and sometimes ridiculed (for example, see the ‘cycle facility of the month’ pages at www.warringtoncyclecampaign.co.uk; last accessed 4/2/07), at its best this infrastructure aims to make cycling journeys more attractive; quicker, easier, safer, more pleasant." At least he doesn't highlight "safety" as the exclusive goal of facilities, but he does feel compelled ("fair & balanced"?) to include a link to an anti-facility rant site. He then goes on to develop his primary thesis that facilities, like helmets, have the main effect of making cycling appear dangerous. With a very indirect argument, he raises the specter of facilities eroding cyclists rights to use the road (the Forester phobia). "In 2006, the draft of the revised Highway Code instructed cyclists to use off-road routes wherever they exist. These planned revisions were opposed by cyclists, led by CTC, but they nonetheless make clear how the provision of ‘attractive’ alternatives produces the cyclist-on-the-road as ever more out-of-place. New ideas of ‘normal’ are being produced, and it is becoming less normal to see roads as appropriate places to cycle." But it's even worse than that (according to him): "It is also worth noting, for what is to follow, that spatial re-allocation of cycling away from the road is shifting the object of fear, from cycling to the cyclist. On off-road routes, the cyclist is no longer so viscerally threatened and endangered, and instead becomes perceived as the source of threat and danger to slower-moving, more leisurely others. The source of fear shifts from the practice to the practitioner." His final section "Making Cycling Strange" is a curious one. He has a rather long-winded and metaphorical justification for "taking the lane": "The cultural acceptability of cycling’s spatial marginality, particularly when combined with the cyclist’s stigmatised identity, is highly consequential. It means that those cyclists who do not stick to the margins, but either consciously or unconsciously attempt to ‘centre’ themselves, are experienced as threatening and unsettling, and are demonised – most visibly and powerfully within the mass media." This raises a fine point that's often skated over by vehicularists, namely that taking the lane ****es off motorists (despite being legal and sensible) as much or more than true moving violations. The author continues with a reasonably accurate description of the scapegoat status of cyclists and the mismatch of the currently auto-centric rules of the road and cycling realities: "This cyclist can execute a whole range of manoeuvres designed to take short-cuts, avoid hold-ups and escape danger. It should be stressed that many such movements, whether actually ‘illicit’ or simply unavailable to people in cars, are risk reduction strategies, tactics developed by cyclists to reduce conflicts and risks of collision with others. But unlike road safety education, helmets and new cycling infrastructure, many are not officially sanctioned and are therefore not regarded as wholly legitimate. Those very same tactics which have enabled cycling to survive as an urban practice can also therefore reinforce the cyclist’s already stigmatised identity." He neglects to mention the "vehicularists" insistence (despite evidence to the contrary) that scofflaw behavior is more contributory to safety than corresponding motorist or pedestrian behavior, or the lack of justification for calling for "crack downs" for either safety or "image" reasons, despite the popularity for that among vehicular advocates. Finally, the most glaring omission, he sketches the following quickly: "So here is another challenge to cycling as a marginalised practice and the cyclist as a stigmatised identity. But this time it is not Critical Mass or aberrant cyclists who, by moving from the margins to a more central position, are issuing the challenge. It is governments. More accurately, it is transport discourse and policy, which especially in light of a range of social and environmental ‘problems’, is now pushing cycling back towards ‘the centre’. UK Government transport policy (most notably Transport for London) is recognising cycling as ‘a good thing’, and making it clear that people should give cycling a go. The mass media, albeit at its more progressive end, is also now representing cycling in more positive terms." That's about all the social justification he can describe to anchor the whole long-winded article. If the future of cycling and it's hopeful rise from its current ashes are based on a government turn-around on cycling policy, what's the policy change driven by? Economics? Aesthetics? He doesn't say, other than the vaguely, quoted to dodge any literal meaning, used terms like "problems" and "a good thing". That is a huge waffle, and the ultimate disappointment of the article. What the automobile has led into is a kind of "tragedy of the commons". Motor vehicles take up lots of space and force us into low density development. For many years this was seen as a feature rather than a liability by the social planning mainstream. In many ways, it still is. There are economic consequences to low density patterns, but I feel that the main problem with low density development is sociological rather economic, which makes the omission of this facet by a sociologist more than a little surprising. In the end, we are predominantly social creatures. The technology which allows us to spread out finally forces us to, and replaces formerly vibrant shared spaces with mere transport corridors. Choice becomes impossible as options for high density living become increasingly impractical. The reason that so many urban planners and administrations are now embracing cycling is that it provides a new option for the kind of high density environment under their stewardship. The elephant in the room is density. This is why Northern European cities have led the way, they have older, denser communities, founded long before the technology-driven spreading. Formerly seen as quaint, charming anachronisms (look, windmills and bicycles!), they are now regarded as in many ways more desirable places to live, work and recreate. At least those citizens have options, we don't. I worry that, with 95% of US cycling being recreational, that the "renaissance" will just be a fad. I have nothing against recreational cycling -- I'm one myself -- but I realize how confident you can feel, especially in a pack of equally well fitted out cohorts, and at the same time how quickly such confidence can fade when you're grinding out a wet dark commute in a sea of cars & trucks without another cyclist in sight. It's not easy being green. Utility cycling, which I prefer to think of as "community cycling" doesn't only have a good match to the high density city, it also well supports the "village" model, where there's a town center surrounded by outlying residences. This presumes practical destinations in the center for work, school, play and commerce. As towns have decentralized, many services, shopping and schools have moved out to spacious lots, strip malls and big box stores on the ring roads, leaving little more in the center than a hollow shell. With a 1% trip mode share, I don't expect cycling to play any part in changing that, nor without re-population of the center do I expect there to be much reason to expect utility cycling to grow beyond its minuscule level. For the above reasons, I don't expect community cycling to have a significant effect on energy or emissions issues. I don't expect it to much to do with national car usage, either. Where it's likely to have the most potential for growth and change is in the densest communities. Unfortunately, those communities have typically struggled for decades trying to cope with the changes that motorized technology brought. Merchants and employers have fought to make downtowns more accessible to suburban commuters. Mayors have pandered to auto interests and resisted sharing or relinquishing space. What's been a sea change in recent years is a new open-mindedness to the idea that cycling may connect local residents with local work and services, improving quality of life and attracting new residents. Cities are more being seen as places to live (if only for part of your life) rather than places just to visit. For these pragmatic reasons, I see promotion of cycling to be important in that kind of area, and facilities as being instrumental to that promotion. |
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On Mar 7, 11:19*am, Peter Cole wrote:
... read more » I won't attempt to respond point-by-point to such a lengthy post, one that exceeded Google's length limit. And I don't want you to think I disagreed with everything you said. We definitely agree on certain points. I just want to make two or three comments. First, keep in mind this blog is in essence a distillation of some of the information contained in the book _Cycling and Society_. Rather than saying "He left this out," perhaps you should read what else he's written. No one article can cover everything. (And in fact, he actually did mention some of what you claim he omitted.) Second, you persist in misrepresenting vehicular cycling and its proponents - or at least, most of them. Really, if you're going to attack claims by those who advocate riding as competent vehicle operators, it would help to stick to the claims that are real. That might best be done by attacking them when and where they actually appear in print. Of course, there are few opportunities for you to actually do that, because the statements you claim to rebut either remain correct, or don't generally exist in real life. Beyond that: Yes, it's a long, serious article, and somewhat complicated. It's gotten favorable comments in some other cycling forums. Those who are serious about learning something about cycling and society might want to read it, and perhaps even dig into some of the references he cites. - Frank Krygowski |
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On 3/7/2011 1:25 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Mar 7, 11:19 am, Peter wrote: ... read more » I won't attempt to respond point-by-point to such a lengthy post, one that exceeded Google's length limit. And I don't want you to think I disagreed with everything you said. We definitely agree on certain points. I just want to make two or three comments. First, keep in mind this blog is in essence a distillation of some of the information contained in the book _Cycling and Society_. I now see that buried in a response to a comment on an article that he had intended to include the article as a chapter. He did not mention the book in the "about me" section of the blog, nor cite it in the extensive footnotes. I had no idea he wrote a book. After locating it at Amazon, at $100, I doubt that I'll read it. Rather than saying "He left this out," perhaps you should read what else he's written. No one article can cover everything. (And in fact, he actually did mention some of what you claim he omitted.) Not likely, see above. Second, you persist in misrepresenting vehicular cycling and its proponents - or at least, most of them. Really, if you're going to attack claims by those who advocate riding as competent vehicle operators, I do not. I attack vehicular cycling as a bad philosophy leading to all kinds of cycling dead ends, and I've corrected you on this charge many times in the past. it would help to stick to the claims that are real. That might best be done by attacking them when and where they actually appear in print. I might rebut that if you were more specific. I did you the service of reading your selected very long article and composing a very long and specific response. You might do likewise instead of tossing an offhand vague remark. You can rant at length after all. Of course, there are few opportunities for you to actually do that, because the statements you claim to rebut either remain correct, or don't generally exist in real life. See above. Beyond that: Yes, it's a long, serious article, and somewhat complicated. It's gotten favorable comments in some other cycling forums. Those who are serious about learning something about cycling and society might want to read it, and perhaps even dig into some of the references he cites. Frank, you're too much. Have you no shame at all? |
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On Mar 7, 9:19 am, Peter Cole wrote:
He cites Ken Kifer's web content about the over-estimation of cycling dangers without revealing the fact that Kifer was killed by a motorist. Does he mention Kifer's finding, contrary to his biases and expectations, that riding a bike is much, much more likely, per-hour or per-mile, to result in injury than driving a car? |
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
Coincidentally, I was just pointed to this excellent article: http://thinkingaboutcycling.wordpres...ar-of-cycling/ A lot of what he says may sound familiar. - Frank Krygowski I didn't even think of that fear when younger But now that I'm older... I think abt it all the time!! Especially since people text, eat, read...and do everything BUT drive in their cars now! |
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