BBC Have Your Say

This is about 20mph limits in urban areas, rather than specifically
about cycling, but some of the comments from drivers are really quite
scary! There is a cycling reference in the accompanying article though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm

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On 16 Oct, 10:15, Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet wrote:
This is about 20mph limits in urban areas, rather than specifically
about cycling, but some of the comments from drivers are really quite
scary! There is a cycling reference in the accompanying article though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm

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"Cyclists don't pay road tax"

"I blame the immigrants"

That's enough of that.

spindrift said the following on 16/10/2007 13:44:

"Cyclists don't pay road tax"

Did you see the "Do you think you own the roads? Yes - we pay road
tax!" one.

Oh dear!

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Paul Boyd wrote:
This is about 20mph limits in urban areas, rather than specifically
about cycling, but some of the comments from drivers are really quite
scary! There is a cycling reference in the accompanying article though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm

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They also have one about there being too many blobs of fat in the
country, at the same time an "MP" wants to mandate hellmets.

Paul Boyd wrote:

This is about 20mph limits in urban areas, rather than specifically
about cycling, but some of the comments from drivers are really quite
scary! There is a cycling reference in the accompanying article though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm

"Have Your Say" he-
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There is so much confused reporting and comment on this topic.

Very clearly, no-one sensible can possibly be arguing for a 20mph
blanket limit "in urban areas", so why don't they (and the media) make
it clear what IS being proposed?

JNugent wrote:
There is so much confused reporting and comment on this topic.

Very clearly, no-one sensible can possibly be arguing for a 20mph
blanket limit "in urban areas", so why don't they (and the media) make
it clear what IS being proposed?

I'm assuming that was a rhetorical question. The media lives by driving
eyeballs to their advertisers, they don't make money by printing the truth.

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:10:39 +0100, JNugent wrote:

Paul Boyd wrote:

This is about 20mph limits in urban areas, rather than specifically
about cycling, but some of the comments from drivers are really quite
scary! There is a cycling reference in the accompanying article though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm

"Have Your Say" he-
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There is so much confused reporting and comment on this topic.

Very clearly, no-one sensible can possibly be arguing for a 20mph
blanket limit "in urban areas", so why don't they (and the media) make
it clear what IS being proposed?

Why not?

Average speed is usually much less...

Martin Dann wrote:
Paul Boyd wrote:
This is about 20mph limits in urban areas, rather than specifically
about cycling, but some of the comments from drivers are really quite
scary! There is a cycling reference in the accompanying article though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046200.stm

"Have Your Say" he-
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They also have one about there being too many blobs of fat in the
country, at the same time an "MP" wants to mandate hellmets.

Ironically, the MP who is usually behind such campaigns IS a blob of fat.

Martin Dann said the following on 16/10/2007 17:39:

They also have one about there being too many blobs of fat in the
country, at the same time an "MP" wants to mandate hellmets.

Or this morning's news headline at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7047244.stm - "Obesity 'not
individuals' fault'"

What? Someone else is forcing the burger and crisps and "diet" coke
down their throats?

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JNugent said the following on 16/10/2007 18:10:

There is so much confused reporting and comment on this topic.

That does seem to apply to the BBC site generally though these days,
unfortunately. My pet hate is where the report has something like "Bert
Smith has stated that blah-de-blah". Who the f*** is Bert Smith? Some
bloke passing in the street or someone with some authority on the matter
being discussed?

As for the specific HYS, yup - people are confused! There's one guy who
says that he won't be out of second gear at 20mph, and an inadvertent
sneeze means he's doing 50. Several people say that modern cars can't
drive at 20mph. Jeez - and these people are on the roads? I don't know
if my 12 year old Mondeo counts as modern or not, but it can reasonably
happily do 20mph in 4th once it's warmed up.

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