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I must suck at flat-fixing.
Many moons ago, I had a flat. I patched it. It held air. Life was good. I went away for a couple of weeks, during which my bicycle languished on its hook. now that I come back to it--the tire is flat. No problem, I'll just pump it up--and then I hear the sharp hiss. Do patched tires *always* continue to leak? or is my patching bad? I'll just slap a new tube on it this afternoon and re-teach myself how to patch. ugh. -Luigi |
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Luigi de Guzman writes:
I must suck at flat-fixing. Many moons ago, I had a flat. I patched it. It held air. Life was good. I went away for a couple of weeks, during which my bicycle languished on its hook. now that I come back to it--the tire is flat. No problem, I'll just pump it up--and then I hear the sharp hiss. Do patched tires *always* continue to leak? or is my patching bad? I'll just slap a new tube on it this afternoon and re-teach myself how to patch. ugh. http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8b.1.html Jobst Brandt |
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"Luigi de Guzman" wrote in message
... I must suck at flat-fixing. snip.. Do patched tires *always* continue to leak? or is my patching bad? I've patched probably...200 tubes. I never enjoy it and I never know if it's going to work. I was doing it in the confines of a nicely appointed shop..doing it on the road while sweating and rushing, that's a horror I could do without. I tried to sell new tubes whenever possible...usually cheaper than the time it takes to patch one. So don't feel too bad.. Cheers, Scott.. |
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Luigi,
Just follow the directions in the patch kit to the letter. Avoid the FAQ because it's full of bad information on this subject. Also, don't assume that the patch failed. Did you forget to remove the culprit from your tire before putting the tube back in? Or perhaps there was more than one hole to begin with. Robert |
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Luigi who? snipes,
Just follow the directions in the patch kit to the letter. Avoid the FAQ because it's full of bad information on this subject. That's a pretty broad brush you use without specifics. Wold you clarify what it is in the the referenced FAQ that you find "bad information". If not, then I take it you are just another disgruntled sniper that arise here on occasion, usually under an alias. You wouldn't want to be quoted to your face on this would you? http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8b.1.html Also, don't assume that the patch failed. Did you forget to remove the culprit from your tire before putting the tube back in? Or perhaps there was more than one hole to begin with. That should be evident on second inspection, after it went flat again. Was the patch leaking or was there another hole? The reason for the sandpaper in the patch kit is unknown to many of those who write the instructions, something that is apparent from the advice to "rough up the tube" before applying glue. Jobst Brandt |
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Luigi de Guzman wrote - I must suck at flat-fixing. Not so - whilst there are no doubt many sound technical reasons for why some patches don't work, the real reason was that the Puncture Gods thought they had had insufficient sport with you and changing tyres in a nice warm garage with unfrozen fingers really wasn't much of a penance was it ? I find making offerings of not quite worn tyres (esp the rear) before they are embarrassingly thin in the tread tends to appease the PG's. Demonstrating unseemly pride by making statements about how many months / klms it has been since a puncture is a dead set invitation for retribution, and vengeance will be theirs. best, Andrew "But riding is my special gift, my chiefest, sole delight; Just ask a wild duck can it swim, a wildcat can it fight... I'll ride this here two-wheeled concern, right straight away, at sight." A B 'Banjo' Patterson - "Mulga Bill" 25 July 1896. |
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Luigi de Guzman wrote:
I must suck at flat-fixing. Many moons ago, I had a flat. I patched it. It held air. Life was good. I went away for a couple of weeks, during which my bicycle languished on its hook. now that I come back to it--the tire is flat. No problem, I'll just pump it up--and then I hear the sharp hiss. Do patched tires *always* continue to leak? or is my patching bad? I'll just slap a new tube on it this afternoon and re-teach myself how to patch. ugh. I've found that the glueless patches work well as long as you don't let the tires go fairly soft. Then they seem to wrinkle and leak - but on bikes that I ride daily they seem to last pretty much forever. What kind of patch did you use? Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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Jobst Brandt wrote:
That's a pretty broad brush you use without specifics. Wold you clarify what it is in the the referenced FAQ that you find "bad information". If not, then I take it you are just another disgruntled sniper that arise here on occasion, usually under an alias. You wouldn't want to be quoted to your face on this would you? We've gone over this before. Quote this: You must let the "glue" dry completely before applying the patch, as directed in the REMA patch kit, which on step four of the directions has a picture of a clock and the words "min. 5 min." You contend that patches fail even when they are applied correctly, if they are used immediately after patching, and that is simply not the case. In fact the REMA patches are a virtually fail-safe method when used correctly, and the patched tube can be used immediately after patching with no problems whatsoever. Your patches are prone to failure for the simple reason that you don't let the glue dry near long enough before applying the patch. Robert |
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Luigi de Guzman wrote in
: I must suck at flat-fixing. Many moons ago, I had a flat. I patched it. It held air. Life was good. I went away for a couple of weeks, during which my bicycle languished on its hook. now that I come back to it--the tire is flat. No problem, I'll just pump it up--and then I hear the sharp hiss. Do patched tires *always* continue to leak? or is my patching bad? I'll just slap a new tube on it this afternoon and re-teach myself how to patch. ugh. -Luigi Patch or no patch, your tires would still have lost a small amount of air over a few weeks. As a last resort, I remove the tube and immerse it in a sink when searching for intermittent or multiple leaks. Also I note the orientation of the tube to the tire so I can examine the tire for remnants of whatever caused the puncture in the first place. Rusty staples or wire cause most of my punctures. I generally ride a patch immediately after slapping it on with no noticable ill effects. |
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