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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote: I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this essayist is genuinely funny. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441 Andre Jute Fortunately over 3000 miles away Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still connected to the internet. So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg -- Jay Beattie. I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. |
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST),
Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely. Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:40:28 p.m. UTC-5, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely. Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA I've read that once a container is opened that it can't be completely sealed again. That's why a it's recommended that a lot of household things (besides paints and varnishes) be stored well away from living quarters or open flames such as pilot lights. Cheers |
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 11:54:32 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:40:28 p.m. UTC-5, Ted Heise wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely. Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA I've read that once a container is opened that it can't be completely sealed again. That's why a it's recommended that a lot of household things (besides paints and varnishes) be stored well away from living quarters or open flames such as pilot lights. I've decided to keep my can of vulcanizing fluid in ten ziplock bags upside down in my toilet tank, next to my plutonium. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 12:22:12 -0800 (PST),
jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 11:54:32 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:40:28 p.m. UTC-5, Ted Heise wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely. Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent. I've read that once a container is opened that it can't be completely sealed again. That's why a it's recommended that a lot of household things (besides paints and varnishes) be stored well away from living quarters or open flames such as pilot lights. I've decided to keep my can of vulcanizing fluid in ten ziplock bags upside down in my toilet tank, next to my plutonium. So now you'll have to wear lead gloves to use it, eh? -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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On 3/2/2021 10:07 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote: I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this essayist is genuinely funny. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441 Andre Jute Fortunately over 3000 miles away Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still connected to the internet. So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg -- Jay Beattie. I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. I think storing the can upside down helps seal it. I never thought about buying kits at Freddy's, but I did the same thing at Western Bikeworks when they opened the NW store and had $.99 patch kits at the counter. That ended too soon. I do like the brush and he single pass application, although if you shake the can as recommended or store it upside down, you have to be careful not to let fluid drip everywhere from the underside of the lid. $9 for a 10g tube of Rema is heinous. https://www.amazon.com/Rema-Vulcaniz.../dp/B0017RV5XG The same goes with Shimano hydro mineral oil. $12 for 100ml. I got a liter on sale for $16, which was an incredible bargain. It's gone up in price -- must be because of Biden. All bicycle consumables have skyrocketed in the last 40 years, some rockets slower than others. -- Jay Beattie. $9 is heinous indeed. Searching Amazon for "Rema vulcanizing" found many cheaper options, including an 8oz Rema-branded can of fluid for $16.40. Let me know how your can is doing in a few months, maybe I'll try one again. Mark J. |
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 12:40:58 PM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/2/2021 10:07 AM, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote: I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this essayist is genuinely funny. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441 Andre Jute Fortunately over 3000 miles away Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still connected to the internet. So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg -- Jay Beattie. I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. I think storing the can upside down helps seal it. I never thought about buying kits at Freddy's, but I did the same thing at Western Bikeworks when they opened the NW store and had $.99 patch kits at the counter. That ended too soon. I do like the brush and he single pass application, although if you shake the can as recommended or store it upside down, you have to be careful not to let fluid drip everywhere from the underside of the lid. $9 for a 10g tube of Rema is heinous. https://www.amazon.com/Rema-Vulcaniz.../dp/B0017RV5XG The same goes with Shimano hydro mineral oil. $12 for 100ml. I got a liter on sale for $16, which was an incredible bargain. It's gone up in price -- must be because of Biden. All bicycle consumables have skyrocketed in the last 40 years, some rockets slower than others. -- Jay Beattie. $9 is heinous indeed. Searching Amazon for "Rema vulcanizing" found many cheaper options, including an 8oz Rema-branded can of fluid for $16.40. Let me know how your can is doing in a few months, maybe I'll try one again. Another even cheaper option is Slime rubber cement, which I'm told is a vulcanizing fluid -- notwithstanding the "rubber cement" moniker. https://tinyurl.com/54dyt4bd It uses a different solvent than Rema. https://storage.googleapis.com/slime...011-4-2020.pdf (Ligroin/Naptha). The interweb reports that it works with Rema patches. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 12:22:14 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 11:54:32 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:40:28 p.m. UTC-5, Ted Heise wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely. Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA I've read that once a container is opened that it can't be completely sealed again. That's why a it's recommended that a lot of household things (besides paints and varnishes) be stored well away from living quarters or open flames such as pilot lights. I've decided to keep my can of vulcanizing fluid in ten ziplock bags upside down in my toilet tank, next to my plutonium. -- Jay Beattie. I hate to point this out but the Plutonium in virtually any amount would buy at least one tube of Rema cement. |
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 12:57:51 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 12:40:58 PM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/2/2021 10:07 AM, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote: I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this essayist is genuinely funny. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441 Andre Jute Fortunately over 3000 miles away Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still connected to the internet. So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg -- Jay Beattie. I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents.. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. I think storing the can upside down helps seal it. I never thought about buying kits at Freddy's, but I did the same thing at Western Bikeworks when they opened the NW store and had $.99 patch kits at the counter. That ended too soon. I do like the brush and he single pass application, although if you shake the can as recommended or store it upside down, you have to be careful not to let fluid drip everywhere from the underside of the lid. $9 for a 10g tube of Rema is heinous. https://www.amazon.com/Rema-Vulcaniz.../dp/B0017RV5XG The same goes with Shimano hydro mineral oil. $12 for 100ml. I got a liter on sale for $16, which was an incredible bargain. It's gone up in price -- must be because of Biden. All bicycle consumables have skyrocketed in the last 40 years, some rockets slower than others. -- Jay Beattie. $9 is heinous indeed. Searching Amazon for "Rema vulcanizing" found many cheaper options, including an 8oz Rema-branded can of fluid for $16.40. Let me know how your can is doing in a few months, maybe I'll try one again. Another even cheaper option is Slime rubber cement, which I'm told is a vulcanizing fluid -- notwithstanding the "rubber cement" moniker. https://tinyurl.com/54dyt4bd It uses a different solvent than Rema. https://storage.googleapis.com/slime...011-4-2020.pdf (Ligroin/Naptha). The interweb reports that it works with Rema patches. Thinking that since this Felt is intended for offroad that I would put Slime tubes in it, I installed them in those Bontrager wheels, One of those things somehow got a pinch from a 35 mm tire. They were tiny little holes but of the three, none of them sealed from the slime. After exposed to air for 20 minutes they hardened into a rubbery lump. So I don't believe any of the claims of Slime. |
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jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 11:54:32 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:40:28 p.m. UTC-5, Ted Heise wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote: On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote: So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents. I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every decade or so. If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to escape from anywhere. I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely. Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA I've read that once a container is opened that it can't be completely sealed again. That's why a it's recommended that a lot of household things (besides paints and varnishes) be stored well away from living quarters or open flames such as pilot lights. I've decided to keep my can of vulcanizing fluid in ten ziplock bags upside down in my toilet tank, next to my plutonium. -- Jay Beattie. So long as you keep your plutonium away from your other plutonium. I’m hopefully downwind from your fallout plume, but I’m still too close to want to bet on it. |
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