London Critical Mass October ride

A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/10/467040.html

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Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist or I will ram you!".

On Oct 30, 12:37*pm, Doug wrote:
A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek C wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:37*pm, Doug wrote: A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?

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Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist or I will ram you!".

Doug wrote:
On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek C wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:37 pm, Doug wrote: A jolly
event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?

Ramming is far too slow for a large number of knobhead cyclists. Water
cannon would be much more efficient.


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Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike, like a skateboard, is
a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.

On Oct 30, 4:20*pm, Doug wrote:
On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek C wrote: On Oct 30, 12:37*pm, Doug wrote: A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?

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Only if they are a rabble intent on stopping drivers going about their
lawful business. And no I haven't, although a young lad on a bike
rammed into me on foot the other day, as I reported in a different
thread.

Derek C

On 30/10/2010 16:20, Doug wrote:
On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:37 pm, wrote: A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?

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Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist or I will ram you!".

Do you approve of the ramming of pedestrians by cyclists?

--
Tony Dragon

On Oct 30, 4:20*pm, Doug wrote:
On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek C wrote: On Oct 30, 12:37*pm, Doug wrote: A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?

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Critical Mass Londonhttp://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist or I will ram you!".

Just to get first hand experience of CM I joined them Friday, I saw no
ramming of cyclists, I did see plenty of anti social & illegal
behaviour by members of CM.
There was lots of red light jumping that put people in danger, as well
as deliberate actions which had the only intention of upsetting
motorists.
On one occasion a cyclist swerved in front of a taxi & stopped, his
only idea was to provoke the taxi driver (it did not work)
The 'corking' was not done with safety in mind, it was only done to
upset other road users.
At one point some of the idiots on CM decided that they would ride
round & round a Land Rover, he could have just driven into them,
instead he just got out of his car, and laughed at them.
CM did not want to respect any other road users (including
pedestrians) but went out to upset as many people as possible.
After a while I had to leave, as they in no way represent normal
everyday cyclists such as myself, in fact they make my life more
difficult as people might think CM represent cycling, they do not.

On 30/10/2010 20:57, maresh wrote:
On Oct 30, 4:20 pm, wrote:
On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek wrote: On Oct 30, 12:37 pm, wrote: A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?

-- .
Critical Mass Londonhttp://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist or I will ram you!".

they in no way represent normal
everyday cyclists such as myself, in fact they make my life more
difficult as people might think CM represent cycling, they do not.
AOL Me too AOL

On 30 Oct, 19:57, maresh wrote:
On Oct 30, 4:20*pm, Doug wrote:

On 30 Oct, 12:50, Derek C wrote: On Oct 30, 12:37*pm, Doug wrote: A jolly event this time, homing in on the financial district.
Repeatedly hooting motorists were jeered.

Any well deserved rammings of cyclists?

So you approve of the deliberate ramming of cyclists by motorists? Why
am I not surprised? Have you ever rammed one or several?


Just to get first hand experience of CM I joined them Friday, I saw no
ramming of cyclists,

Neither did I, which is not to say that none took place because CM is
large and a lone rider can't be in several places at once. Much
depends on later reports.

I did notice though several drivers trying to nose into the ride.

I did see plenty of anti social & illegal
behaviour by members of CM.
There was lots of red light jumping that put people in danger, as well
as deliberate actions which had the only intention of upsetting
motorists.
On one occasion a cyclist swerved in front of a taxi & stopped, his
only idea was to provoke the taxi driver (it did not work)
The 'corking' was not done with safety in mind, it was only done to
upset other road users.

No it is done to prevent impatient drivers mingling dangerously with
large numbers of cyclists, instead of waiting patiently, as some
drivers do, for the procession to pass.

At one point some of the idiots on CM decided that they would ride
round & round a Land Rover, he could have just driven into them,
instead he just got out of his car, and laughed at them.
CM did not want to respect any other road users (including
pedestrians) but went out to upset as many people as possible.
After a while I had to leave, as they in no way represent normal
everyday cyclists such as myself, in fact they make my life more
difficult *as people might think CM represent cycling, they do not.

No I am sure that CM does not represent 'normal everyday cyclists',
who are a passive bunch at the best of times who seem prepared to
subjugate themselves to the role of second class road user. Maybe
though there are a few among them who are bit more militant and would
like to see a change for the better in their status but of course, as
lone riders, they are in a difficult and vulnerable position without
the support of others.

BTW, I have in the past ridden in club rides, which similarly
sometimes ride on pavements and go through red lights etc., but they
are not deemed in law to be a special 'procession' as is London CM.

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Critical Mass London.
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Whose streets? Our streets!"

Doug wrote:

Maybe
though there are a few among them who are bit more militant and would
like to see a change for the better in their status but of course, as
lone riders, they are in a difficult and vulnerable position without
the support of others.


So how long has CM been running in London and what "change for the
better" has it actually achieved in that time?

I would suggest the answer is zero and what change has happened has been
the result of activists campaigning and not from CM.


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Tony