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Dropout blues - rear wheel pulling out
"SuperFly" wrote in message oups.com... Gday, I have an older italian steel frame which I just got second hand and manage to keep pulling the rear wheel out of the dropouts. The dropouts are almost parallel to the chain line which probably doesn't help. Anyway, I read thru previous posts and the comments seem to be distilled to 1. ensure the axle isn't protruding thru the dropouts preventing QR binding properly 2. use a steel nutted QR such as shimano as they bind better than the non steel alloy ones. 3. insert a binding washer ( a serrated washer ) between frame and dropouts 4. score the dropouts as a means of last resort 5. use track axle/nuts You didn't mention if the drop outs are chromed. If they are it is tougher for the QR to get a bite. Hi-E QR's had a spacer that would "cut into" the drop out thereby ensuring a good bite. Maybe you could find some on E-Bay or search around. I had some but can't put my hands on them now. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY |
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Dropout blues - rear wheel pulling out
SuperFly wrote: Gday, I have an older italian steel frame which I just got second hand and manage to keep pulling the rear wheel out of the dropouts. snip 5. is the wise options just to kiss my ( ideal barring the wheel falling off thing) frame goodbye, and look for a different less life threatening one? Appreciate any thoughts you might have. Hi Will, if you get as far as 5, you could try what I did to rescue an old Cannondale frame on which the chainwheel side dropout was a bit "eroded". I replaced the replacable der. hanger, tried different skewers, serrated washers etc., but no luck. The problem was still happened occasionally, normally while climbing hard out of the saddle.The inside face of the chain side chainstay was begining seriously cut up by the small sprocket, and the frame was in danger of getting beyond repair. Rather than chuck out the frame (which is a good fit for me, and I like a lot), I got a small piece of flat steel with two holes in it - I think it was a spare mounting widget from a rear carrier I bought. I fitted an Allan key-headed bold into one of the threaded dropout holes, and removed the QR nut. One of the holes in the steel goes over the head of the Allan bolt, the other over the skewer, and I then replaced the QR nut. The piece of steel is held in place flat alongside the outer face of the dropout by the QR nut, and it ties the skewer rod in place (pulling against the Allen-headed bolt) so it can't pull out forwards. I filed down the ends of the steel so it didn't stick out beyond the profile of the dropout while in place. OK, it's ugly, and it kind of defeats some of the purpose of the QR, but it works. You can still remove the rear wheel without tools, just loosen the QR nut a bit more until the the steel can be eased off the head of the bolt. It's been in place a few thousand commuting miles now, and no problems since. There's no wear on the QR skewer either, so so far, so good. I'm sure you can find/drill out somthing similar. Hope this helps. bookieb. |
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Dropout blues - rear wheel pulling out
Gday,
Thanks to all (esp Alex) who replied. I'm much encouraged as I'm pretty attached to this frame. Have gone and bougth a higher end shimano skewer ( its actually xt but I figure ( hope) it should be as good as the road stuff.) Hopefully this will fix the problem. The S. Brown piece was certainly pretty illuminating. The bike is off the road at the moment as pulling the dropout has resulted in a groove on the inside of the right dropout and also the wheel locknuts have been worn smooth(ish). I'm getting thsi sorted out and hopefully all will be well and I won't have to manufacture some sort of bracket as some of the more resourceful folks have done. Anyway thanks again, Will |
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Dropout blues - rear wheel pulling out
On 3 Aug 2005 20:36:43 -0700, "SuperFly" wrote:
Gday, Thanks to all (esp Alex) who replied. I'm much encouraged as I'm pretty attached to this frame. Have gone and bougth a higher end shimano skewer ( its actually xt but I figure ( hope) it should be as good as the road stuff.) Hopefully this will fix the problem. The S. Brown piece was certainly pretty illuminating. The bike is off the road at the moment as pulling the dropout has resulted in a groove on the inside of the right dropout and also the wheel locknuts have been worn smooth(ish). I'm getting thsi sorted out and hopefully all will be well and I won't have to manufacture some sort of bracket as some of the more resourceful folks have done. Anyway thanks again, Will An XT skewer for the rear may be too long for road use. The standard road spacing is 130mm and mtb spacing is 135mm. Why not get the correct one? Life is Good! Jeff |
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Dropout blues - rear wheel pulling out
Jeff Starr wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 20:36:43 -0700, "SuperFly" wrote: Gday, Thanks to all (esp Alex) who replied. I'm much encouraged as I'm pretty attached to this frame. Have gone and bougth a higher end shimano skewer ( its actually xt but I figure ( hope) it should be as good as the road stuff.) Hopefully this will fix the problem. The S. Brown piece was certainly pretty illuminating. The bike is off the road at the moment as pulling the dropout has resulted in a groove on the inside of the right dropout and also the wheel locknuts have been worn smooth(ish). I'm getting thsi sorted out and hopefully all will be well and I won't have to manufacture some sort of bracket as some of the more resourceful folks have done. Anyway thanks again, Will An XT skewer for the rear may be too long for road use. The standard road spacing is 130mm and mtb spacing is 135mm. Why not get the correct one? Not really inappropriate for road use.It won't hurt anything if the end of the skewer protrudes a bit. Or, you could cut it down with a hacksaw or dremel tool. I had the same wheel slippage issue with my Tommasini (chromed dropout faces), but using an older Dura Ace skewer and tightening it sufficently solved the problem. I also concur with the poster who suggested you have the alignment of the dropouts checked to insure that they are parallel. |
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Dropout blues - rear wheel pulling out
On 4 Aug 2005 05:48:24 -0700, "
wrote: Jeff Starr wrote: An XT skewer for the rear may be too long for road use. The standard road spacing is 130mm and mtb spacing is 135mm. Why not get the correct one? Not really inappropriate for road use.It won't hurt anything if the end of the skewer protrudes a bit. Or, you could cut it down with a hacksaw or dremel tool. I had the same wheel slippage issue with my Tommasini (chromed dropout faces), but using an older Dura Ace skewer and tightening it sufficently solved the problem. I also concur with the poster who suggested you have the alignment of the dropouts checked to insure that they are parallel. That's assumming that there are enough threads to tighten it sufficently. Without seeing it, I don't know. Sure, it won't hurt anything, if he can tighten it enough. Life is Good! Jeff |
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