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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 9:25:06 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B. wrote: A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph for two hours last Sunday". Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen route. Write down distance. Apply third-grade math. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding WAY out of your way if you follow them. When I use Google Maps to calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the route I plan to ride. Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a route. Cheers In places like New York you had damn well better follow those Rails to Trails routes if you don't want to be run over. |
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 9:47:15 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:17:38 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 4:52:50 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: For your information, not that I need to provide, I've never smoked a cigarette or tried smoking one in my entire life. You sir, are completely delusional. Cheers Your delusions began when you started considering yourself some sort of expert at anything. What have you done for a living since your replies seem to indicate that it was something like ditch digging or hod carrying. Over here, ditch diggers, also called plumbers, generally gross more over a lifetime than top surgeons. Chalo is an East Indian name. Ask yourself what would happen to him if he so much as mentioned abortion in India. His parents would disclaim him. |
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On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:51:53 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 1:25 AM, John B. wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:40:54 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:25:03 -0700, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B. wrote: A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph for two hours last Sunday". Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen route. Write down distance. Apply third-grade math. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding WAY out of your way if you follow them. Gogle mpas are so car orientated. There is always a (or more)better bicycle route. When I use Google Maps to calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the route I plan to ride. Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a route. Over here, it frequently will have you travelling 1,000 miles on sealed roads as opposed to 10miles on a gravel road. Whatever did people do before Google Maps? I can remember driving across the United States twice without any maps at all. -- cheers, John B. +1 Look in the atlas, fill tank and go. I've been all over this country never having used an electronic device. YMMV. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Remember when you could get maps at any gas station? I used to get those and plan bicycle tours all over the country. You don't get lost if you have this thing called "language" and are willing to ask people. |
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On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 2:51:53 PM UTC+2, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 1:25 AM, John B. wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:40:54 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:25:03 -0700, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B. wrote: A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph for two hours last Sunday". Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen route. Write down distance. Apply third-grade math. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding WAY out of your way if you follow them. Gogle mpas are so car orientated. There is always a (or more)better bicycle route. When I use Google Maps to calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the route I plan to ride. Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a route. Over here, it frequently will have you travelling 1,000 miles on sealed roads as opposed to 10miles on a gravel road. Whatever did people do before Google Maps? I can remember driving across the United States twice without any maps at all. -- cheers, John B. +1 Look in the atlas, fill tank and go. I've been all over this country never having used an electronic device. YMMV. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 All the 'tough' guys say they don't need electronic assistance and all they need is a glance at a paper map once in a while. Sure that is possible but electronic assistance makes it a hell more convenient. First time in the US, mid 80's, I drove form NYC to LA only using a Rand Mcnally atlas; one page per state. It was possible but it took me quite a while to get out of NYC. Last time a got a Garmin with my rental and driving was much more relaxing. Lou |
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On 8/15/2019 2:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:51:53 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/15/2019 1:25 AM, John B. wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:40:54 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:25:03 -0700, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B. wrote: A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph for two hours last Sunday". Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen route. Write down distance. Apply third-grade math. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding WAY out of your way if you follow them. Gogle mpas are so car orientated. There is always a (or more)better bicycle route. When I use Google Maps to calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the route I plan to ride. Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a route. Over here, it frequently will have you travelling 1,000 miles on sealed roads as opposed to 10miles on a gravel road. Whatever did people do before Google Maps? I can remember driving across the United States twice without any maps at all. -- cheers, John B. +1 Look in the atlas, fill tank and go. I've been all over this country never having used an electronic device. YMMV. Remember when you could get maps at any gas station? I used to get those and plan bicycle tours all over the country. You don't get lost if you have this thing called "language" and are willing to ask people. Tried that recently? Almost nobody knows where they are, anything about the neighborhood or especially how to go from here to there. I was in Omaha recently and a block away from my destination. Residents gave me the 1000 yard stare until I just happened to discover that 38th Street is parallel and next to 38th Avenue. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 8/15/2019 4:24 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 2:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:51:53 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/15/2019 1:25 AM, John B. wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:40:54 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:25:03 -0700, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B. wrote: A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph for two hours last Sunday". Write down starting time in notebook.Â* Write down finishing time in notebook.Â* Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen route.Â* Write down distance. Apply third-grade math. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding WAY out of your way if you follow them. Gogle mpas are so car orientated. There is always a (or more)better bicycle route. When I use Google Maps to calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the route I plan to ride. Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a route. Over here, it frequently will have you travelling 1,000 miles on sealed roads as opposed to 10miles on a gravel road. Whatever did people do before Google Maps? I can remember driving across the United States twice without any maps at all. -- cheers, John B. +1 Look in the atlas, fill tank and go. I've been all over this country never having used an electronic device. YMMV. Remember when you could get maps at any gas station? I used to get those and plan bicycle tours all over the country. You don't get lost if you have this thing called "language" and are willing to ask people. Tried that recently? Almost nobody knows where they are, anything about the neighborhood or especially how to go from here to there. Way back in 1976, on our first overseas bike trip (to Great Britain) I remember stopping to ask directions many times. A lady on crutches not only gave us directions, but hobbled along for half a block so she could point out the proper intersection to us. Also, the habit over there seemed to be: Give full detailed directions; then at the end, give a quick summary, as in "So that's left, then right at the second intersection, then take the next left. Have you got that?" Very, very helpful! -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:03:05 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/15/2019 3:52 PM, wrote: All the 'tough' guys say they don't need electronic assistance and all they need is a glance at a paper map once in a while. Sure that is possible but electronic assistance makes it a hell more convenient. First time in the US, mid 80's, I drove form NYC to LA only using a Rand Mcnally atlas; one page per state. It was possible but it took me quite a while to get out of NYC. Last time a got a Garmin with my rental and driving was much more relaxing. It's certainly more relaxing, especially in a city situation. But I like checking maps in less stressful situations because they give me context and a sense of where I actually am. I can spot the towns along the way, better plan my rest stops, and sometimes find attractions along the way. One example: My wife was driving, towing our camping trailer, as we headed north in Michigan toward the Upper Peninsula. I had the map and was searching for state parks where we might camp. Only on examining the map did I realize that it would make sense to visit Mackinac Island - that it was near enough to where we'd be stopping for the night. We were able to get a last-minute hotel room for two nights, take the ferry to the island, and had a fine time walking and cycling there before heading further north. The GPS never tells me "What's that lake over there? Or that mountain in the distance? Is there a nice country road parallel to this freeway?" etc. So I think it's best to have both. -- - Frank Krygowski When I plan a bicycle ride and use Google Maps to do that I can switch to satellite view, zoom in and then get a street view of the road. I can then follow that street view and see exactly what's along my planned route. Not only that there is a side bar on Google Maps that has icons for all sorts of things that I might be interested in such as restaurants, coffee, bed & breakfasts, hotels, banks, groceries, hospitals and so on. Plus it even tells me the traffic volume I can expect in the area. Another feature that's great about these electronic mapping programs is that they're often a lot more up to date than a paper map is plus if they route has been uploaded to a smart phone or is on a device that fits on your bike, the information is right at your fingertips and is easily accessible even if it's raining and/or very windy. You might not like these electronic maps but many find them much more convenient and useful than a paper map. YMMV and most likely does. Cheers |
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 9:47:15 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:17:38 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 4:52:50 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: For your information, not that I need to provide, I've never smoked a cigarette or tried smoking one in my entire life. You sir, are completely delusional. Cheers Your delusions began when you started considering yourself some sort of expert at anything. What have you done for a living since your replies seem to indicate that it was something like ditch digging or hod carrying. Over here, ditch diggers, also called plumbers, generally gross more over a lifetime than top surgeons. Chalo is an East Indian name. Ask yourself what would happen to him if he so much as mentioned abortion in India. His parents would disclaim him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aborti...ode ,_1860%29 Abortion incidence in India It is estimated that 15.6 million abortions take place in India every year. A significant proportion of these are expected to be unsafe. Unsafe abortion is the third largest cause of maternal mortality leading to death of 10 women each day and thousands more facing morbidities. There is a need to strengthen women's access to CAC services and preventing deaths and disabilities faced by them. The last large-scale study on induced abortion in India was conducted in 2002 as part of the Abortion Assessment Project. The studies as part of this project estimated 6.4 million[11] abortions annually in India. -- cheers, John B. |
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