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Old May 4th 21, 09:50 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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Old May 4th 21, 09:51 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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Old May 4th 21, 09:53 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.diy,alt.home.repair
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On 4/05/21 6:46 pm, Peeler wrote:
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On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.


On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.


Just what makes the unwashed Scottish ****** so irresistible to some of you
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Old May 4th 21, 10:13 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.diy,alt.home.repair
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Old May 4th 21, 01:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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OK what do they use then, All I remember from my brief experience trying to
dim leds was that the most successful way of doing that was by duty cycle,
ie on to off times with them driven by some kind of oscillator with variable
mark space ratios. However it is obvious that even the briefest of ons and
the longest offs tends to still be visible in most cases, and not terribly
accurate if many leds are used as the load, there being a spread of
linearity in any given number.
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

Never saw the original post.


He ****ed up uk.d-I-y he had uk.diy

There is a holding current in a triac, and once the current drops below
this a kind of Hysteresis occurs so you need to turn it up to get it
conducting again.


leds don’t dim using triacs but still cant be dimmed right down close
to zero for use as a nightlight with the philips hues particularly.

Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Is it to warn you?

No idea what you are on about this time.
Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

Rather different technology. Many dimmers cant,
they cut off abruptly at the lower light levels.





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Old May 4th 21, 05:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

OK what do they use then,


A controlled current regulator.

All I remember from my brief experience trying to dim leds was that the
most successful way of doing that was by duty cycle, ie on to off times
with them driven by some kind of oscillator with variable mark space
ratios.


It is much better to control the current thru the leds.

And it makes no sense to use a triac when varying
the mark/space ratio with leds anyway.

However it is obvious that even the briefest of ons and the longest offs
tends to still be visible in most cases,


That’s mad, leds have very little inertia.

and not terribly accurate if many leds are used as the load, there being a
spread of linearity in any given number.


That would be a mad approach too.

Rod Speed wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

Never saw the original post.


He ****ed up uk.d-I-y he had uk.diy

There is a holding current in a triac, and once the current drops below
this a kind of Hysteresis occurs so you need to turn it up to get it
conducting again.


leds don’t dim using triacs but still cant be dimmed right down close
to zero for use as a nightlight with the philips hues particularly.

Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Is it to warn you?

No idea what you are on about this time.
Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

Rather different technology. Many dimmers cant,
they cut off abruptly at the lower light levels.




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Old May 4th 21, 05:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 04/05/2021 13:23, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
OK what do they use then, All I remember from my brief experience trying to
dim leds was that the most successful way of doing that was by duty cycle,
ie on to off times with them driven by some kind of oscillator with variable
mark space ratios. However it is obvious that even the briefest of ons and
the longest offs tends to still be visible in most cases, and not terribly
accurate if many leds are used as the load, there being a spread of
linearity in any given number.


PWM is the cheapest way as it needs no other component.

For a small improvement in efficiency then a constant current source
would be best but obviously costs more.
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Old May 4th 21, 06:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Fredxx" wrote in message
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On 04/05/2021 13:23, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
OK what do they use then, All I remember from my brief experience trying
to
dim leds was that the most successful way of doing that was by duty
cycle,
ie on to off times with them driven by some kind of oscillator with
variable
mark space ratios. However it is obvious that even the briefest of ons
and
the longest offs tends to still be visible in most cases, and not
terribly
accurate if many leds are used as the load, there being a spread of
linearity in any given number.


PWM is the cheapest way as it needs no other component.

For a small improvement in efficiency then a constant current source would
be best but obviously costs more.


Doesn’t necessarily cost anything more at all with leds. Same price as
voltage regulators.

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Old May 4th 21, 07:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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Old May 4th 21, 07:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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