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On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 10:18:19 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/5/2020 9:43 AM, news18 wrote: On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 08:03:20 -0500, AMuzi wrote: Here's the local report with video: https://www.kron4.com/video/over-70-...m-san-leandro- dodge-dealership/5557381/ What report and what video? I've tried two different browsers and it seemsto be only a minature image of a fog/smoke affected car park that could not hold 7 motor vehicles, let alone 70. Try having a think about the logistices of stealing 70 new motor vehicles and making them disappear. Even with say an organised, trained mob of 100 capable people, it would take some time. Here are search results. Try a different link there are a gazillion: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=70+vehicle...o&t=hk&ia=news Thanks, once you got past the syndicated copy & paste, some of the sources provided further information. Nothing supporting Toms premise yet as it seems police are not treating it as a random stealing flash mob, but a few opportunistic looters tagging on. There was a comment on reddit that answered one of my questions about what could they do with them. Apparently, like here, joe blow would have nil chance of just selling these as a new car anywhere except as parts. Parting out is a decades old practise and it was something you had to be aware of here in the bush when you came across two cars down a bush track. if one was van with rear doors open, it was almost a crtainly that when you came back another day, you'd find a stripped frame left. |
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On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote:
snip So, you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. |
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On 6/5/2020 10:46 PM, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 10:22:28 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 11:19:25 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 16:01:48 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:08:38 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 06:52:12 -0700, cyclintom wrote: None of this is protest. They broke into and looted malls a mile in each direction from me. And stole - get this - 70 new Dodges from the dealer lot. Across the streets either way the dealers had hired armed guards. It is wondrous to behold how a gun in the hands of a man who doesn't give a damn what color you are changes the minds of looters and entire criminal enterprises. But they still manage to steal 70 new vehicles? Perhaps you can explain why you present yourself as an Australian and yet you cannot speak nor understand English? I take it that even you have finally woken up to the falsity of claim that some random public mob stole 70 new vehicles. TW, i'm an Aussie mate. we spea kstrine. VBG. I take it that you believe that there were ANY "protesters" breaking into and looting stores? You being a moron on the level of an ape plainly shows every time you write something. So, you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. That's probably true and no one doubts you. That said, the organizational structure and durability of the Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings, PStone Nation, Vice Lords and so on are not a new problem. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 6/5/2020 11:06 PM, sms wrote:
On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote: snip So, you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. No American is against our First Amendment right (if not duty) to peaceably assemble and petition. The conflation I see is mostly on the radio news where arresting rioters and looters is described as 'attacking protesters'. And who is harmed by that conflation? Had I not prudently moved this could well have been me: https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/black-...-her-nyc-shop/ She pays her taxes and gets... bupkis. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:06:23 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote: snip So, you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. So while the police are involved with 100 "peaceful" protestors who are so peaceful that they have killed at least one cop and through Molotov cocktails into many police cars, over 1,000 members of organized crime are taking advantage of the situation. Well, may the whole thing is organized crime since protestors don't throw Molotov cocktails. |
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On 6/6/2020 6:12 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/5/2020 11:06 PM, sms wrote: On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote: snip So,Â* you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. No American is against our First Amendment right (if not duty) to peaceably assemble and petition.Â* The conflation I see is mostly on the radio news where arresting rioters and looters is described as 'attacking protesters'. And who is harmed by that conflation? Had I not prudently moved this could well have been me: https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/black-...-her-nyc-shop/ She pays her taxes and gets... bupkis. See the source of that article, take it with many grains of salt. The real issue hear is where the police actually do attack protesters as happened in Washington D.C. for Trump's photo-op holding a bible (amazing that the bible didn't burst into flames when he touched it). Also in Oakland where a curfew was announced while a peaceful protest was in progress then the police tear-gassed the protesters prior to the curfew even beginning, "The first tear gas canisters were fired at around 7:45 p.m. — shortly after police announcements of the impending curfew." |
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On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 6:12:34 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/5/2020 11:06 PM, sms wrote: On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote: snip So, you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. No American is against our First Amendment right (if not duty) to peaceably assemble and petition. The conflation I see is mostly on the radio news where arresting rioters and looters is described as 'attacking protesters'. And who is harmed by that conflation? Had I not prudently moved this could well have been me: https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/black-...-her-nyc-shop/ She pays her taxes and gets... bupkis. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 The best quote from her is "many have been brought up in a society in which they feel they are worth nothing." You know - deplorables. In California it couldn't possibly be more clear. The rich live in their neighborhoods and the poor had been stay well clear. Piedmont section of Oakland even has their own private police force and you had better not be found in Piedmont after dark unless you live there. Blacks are NOT welcome in Montclair area. And there are Oakland police there in numbers most of the time. You NEVER saw police in the area I grew up. Of course you ever needed them either because all of the inhabitants respected everyone else. The biggest crime might be picking a tomato off of the farmers crop. A tomato and only if you were hungry. |
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On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 6:33:09 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 6/6/2020 6:12 AM, AMuzi wrote: On 6/5/2020 11:06 PM, sms wrote: On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote: snip So,Â* you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. No American is against our First Amendment right (if not duty) to peaceably assemble and petition.Â* The conflation I see is mostly on the radio news where arresting rioters and looters is described as 'attacking protesters'. And who is harmed by that conflation? Had I not prudently moved this could well have been me: https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/black-...-her-nyc-shop/ She pays her taxes and gets... bupkis. See the source of that article, take it with many grains of salt. The real issue hear is where the police actually do attack protesters as happened in Washington D.C. for Trump's photo-op holding a bible (amazing that the bible didn't burst into flames when he touched it). Also in Oakland where a curfew was announced while a peaceful protest was in progress then the police tear-gassed the protesters prior to the curfew even beginning, "The first tear gas canisters were fired at around 7:45 p.m. — shortly after police announcements of the impending curfew." See the words coming out of your fingers and take them with an extremely large dose of salt. You are like all California politicians and believe that identity politics is all there is. You'll have a hot time in the old town sooner or later. |
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news18 writes:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 10:18:19 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 6/5/2020 9:43 AM, news18 wrote: On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 08:03:20 -0500, AMuzi wrote: Here's the local report with video: https://www.kron4.com/video/over-70-...m-san-leandro- dodge-dealership/5557381/ What report and what video? I've tried two different browsers and it seemsto be only a minature image of a fog/smoke affected car park that could not hold 7 motor vehicles, let alone 70. Try having a think about the logistices of stealing 70 new motor vehicles and making them disappear. Even with say an organised, trained mob of 100 capable people, it would take some time. Here are search results. Try a different link there are a gazillion: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=70+vehicle...o&t=hk&ia=news Thanks, once you got past the syndicated copy & paste, some of the sources provided further information. Nothing supporting Toms premise yet as it seems police are not treating it as a random stealing flash mob, but a few opportunistic looters tagging on. There was a comment on reddit that answered one of my questions about what could they do with them. Apparently, like here, joe blow would have nil chance of just selling these as a new car anywhere except as parts. Parting out is a decades old practise and it was something you had to be aware of here in the bush when you came across two cars down a bush track. if one was van with rear doors open, it was almost a crtainly that when you came back another day, you'd find a stripped frame left. Another likely option would be smuggling them into Mexico, or selling them to someone who would. |
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On 6/6/2020 9:12 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/5/2020 11:06 PM, sms wrote: On 6/5/2020 8:46 PM, news18 wrote: snip So,Â* you support my belief that the steeling of 70 new motor vehicles was organised crime and not a random mob that just magically appeared. Ditto what happened in Santa Monica. The looting was not by the protestors it was organized crime. What often happens is that the police are so involved with monitoring a peaceful protest that the looters have free reign. The desire to conflate the protesters with the rioters and looters is something that the EWWs love to do because it suits their agenda. No American is against our First Amendment right (if not duty) to peaceably assemble and petition.Â* The conflation I see is mostly on the radio news where arresting rioters and looters is described as 'attacking protesters'. I think it's obvious that there is some inaccuracy coming from both sides of the political spectrum. That's absolutely normal in this imperfect world. But to some degree, the situation is a political litmus test. Tom looks at professional organized thieves taking advantage of protests and pretends most or all protesters are thieves. I look at a video black man getting slowly murdered; or a white female journalist (whom has interviewed me) getting roughed up by cops despite her press pass; or a couple being tazed and dragged from their car by cops, for no reason; or blood coming from the ear of a 70-year-old guy pushed over backwards by a cop. I say none of those people deserved that treatment. And yes, I see criminals taking advantage of the situation, which is what criminals do with lots of situations. That doesn't invalidate the reasons for the protests. Here, we've had several large protests in the two biggest adjacent cities, plus several smaller ones. Perfectly peaceful. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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