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Old July 24th 07, 03:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 23, 9:28 pm, "
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Other people have couriered this or that pill (didn't Emma
whatshername
allegedly bring LANCE something?) but putting someone in the
position of carrying blood substitute bags on an international flight
would
be a new level of brazenness, into Willy Voet or Edita Rumsas
territory.


E-caps work - are they illegal? If someone "couriered" e-caps across
the Atlantic would you treat it as if they were drug runners?

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Old July 24th 07, 03:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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You are aware that Hemoglobin Based Oxygen Carriers (HBOCs) are
detectable in quantities far below those with therapeutic values?


It wasn't tested for in 2002.

Dan

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Old July 24th 07, 04:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:52:08 GMT, Dan Connelly
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wrote:

You are aware that Hemoglobin Based Oxygen Carriers (HBOCs) are
detectable in quantities far below those with therapeutic values?


It wasn't tested for in 2002.


Doesn't need to be. A 12 year old with a microscope would know there was
something terribly wrong with the blood sample.

Ron
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Old July 24th 07, 04:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:28:19 -0000, "
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On Jul 23, 9:13 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:

Fromhttp://velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12851.0.html

"A former amateur mountain-bike racer alleged Thursday that Tour de France
yellow-jersey holder Michael Rasmussen (Rabobank) attempted to trick him
into carrying illegal doping products to Europe in 2002.

Whitney Richards, 31, a one-time Colorado-based cross-country racer, told
VeloNews that in March of 2002, Rasmussen asked him to transport a box
containing cycling shoes. But the shoebox, according to Richards, actually
contained bags of an American-made human blood substitute. None of the
information Richards provided VeloNews involves allegations of current
doping."

So ... knowing that there would have to be some lead time for Walsh's book;
AND that there's no way they could have known that Rasmussen would be
leading the Tour at this point, I'm thinking that the story is true ... At
the very least, Whitney Richard has been telling it long enough to give it
some sense of credibility, since he told it to Walsh in 2002/2003.


The Velonews article says that he told it to Velonews "that same year"
(2002). They didn't print it because Richards didn't want to be
identified,
but I think we can rely on Velonews's word that he's been telling it
for
some time. Of course it would have been somewhat newsworthy then
since Rasmussen was already MTB world champ, but obviously
Richards wasn't telling it to get attention. At worst one would have
to
assume that he was trying to get back at Rasmussen for some
reason, and that seems unlikely given his insistence then on not
naming
Rasmussen, and his friend who corroborates the story.

Other people have couriered this or that pill (didn't Emma
whatshername
allegedly bring LANCE something?) but putting someone in the
position of carrying blood substitute bags on an international flight
would
be a new level of brazenness, into Willy Voet or Edita Rumsas
territory.

Ben
These shoes transmit power to the pedals more effectively


I'm sure the image of the sport would be improved by having winners of whom no
ill is said. We're fresh out of those. So let's let it be decided on the road.

Ron
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Old July 25th 07, 12:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 24, 7:54 am, datakoll wrote:
I have a 544 Volvo.
Volvo won stock touring at Lemans 1-2, only problem was one car
cracked an exhaust header.
Volvo did not win stock touring at Lemans: Peugot won.
The Peugot's aluminum body wasn't stock but what the hey right?


WELL, RON YOU GOT YOUR WISH

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Old July 25th 07, 12:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 24, 8:33 am, RonSonic wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:28:19 -0000, "

Other people have couriered this or that pill (didn't Emma
whatshername
allegedly bring LANCE something?) but putting someone in the
position of carrying blood substitute bags on an international flight
would
be a new level of brazenness, into Willy Voet or Edita Rumsas
territory.


I'm sure the image of the sport would be improved by having winners of whom no
ill is said. We're fresh out of those. So let's let it be decided on the road.


My discomfort with the character shown in
the Hemopure-mule story expresses my rooting
preferences as a fan, not as a prescriptive
call for action. McQuaid, as the leader of
the sport, nominally has an obligation to be
less biased than a fan. On the other hand,
he's right, it _is_ an image problem. However,
the UCI's approach to cycling's image problems
has generally not been a well thought out plan.

Ben

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Old July 25th 07, 09:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 25, 1:38 am, "
However,
the UCI's approach to cycling's image problems
has generally not been a well thought out plan.


I invented that phrase.

Robert
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