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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"Heinz Getzler" wrote in message
What strange is why Lemond failed to mention the use Tri bar extensions. This the only one he first pioneered. The first cyclists to use them in high-level bike racing were members of the 7-Eleven team in the Tour du Pont or Tour de Trump in 1989 -- where I think one of them used them to win the overall. LeMond was there, saw them, and decided to use them. JT -- ******************************************* NB: reply-to address is munged Visit http://www.jt10000.com ******************************************* |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
Only four? In an interview with a dutch newspaper he told he considered himself also as the virtual winner of the Tour's of 1997 and 1998. So that makes six. So if LeMond has 6 virtual TDF wins, that makes Armstrong 1 shy of Greg. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"CrankBreaker" wrote in message . 78.166... "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in t: Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame 1981 Elevated seat position 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer snip That takes a lot of gall. I am not a master of the English language but I don't see the words Invented or Patented or Architected or Built or Developed or Pooped outta his large imagination. I do see "Legacy of Racing innovation" which works for me as LeMond used a lot of gear in the Euro peloton before anyone else of import and due to his stature this led to rapid advancements that were adopted a peloton trying to figure out how to beat LeMond. He was an early and enthusiastic adopter of technology and techniques that the Euro community not only may have taken years to adopt but may have never adopted. Took an outsider to do it and he did it, kudos to him for shaking the tree. My gripe is that he didn't list ice cream (his biggest contribution to the Peloton) or decent living wages as some of his contributions. Nor does he list the subtle cuisine of Taco Bell. :-) |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
B. Lafferty wrote:
With all that's on his list you'd think he was the second coming of Tulio Campagnolo. Lets hope not. Tullio thought index shifting was a passing fad and put Campy behind Shimano for years. Tullio died in 1983. Shimano didn't introduce index shifting for another 2-3 years. -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message ... "Heinz Getzler" wrote in message What strange is why Lemond failed to mention the use Tri bar extensions. This the only one he first pioneered. The first cyclists to use them in high-level bike racing were members of the 7-Eleven team in the Tour du Pont or Tour de Trump in 1989 -- where I think one of them used them to win the overall. LeMond was there, saw them, and decided to use them. IIRC, the US TTT squad used them in the '88 Olympics. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
Carl Sundquist wrote in message ...
B. Lafferty wrote: With all that's on his list you'd think he was the second coming of Tulio Campagnolo. Lets hope not. Tullio thought index shifting was a passing fad and put Campy behind Shimano for years. Tullio died in 1983. Shimano didn't introduce index shifting for another 2-3 years. Actually index shifting was invented by Simplex almost ten years before Shimano. What is strange they never came out with a product. Simplex had good products but for some reason they were hung up on using plastic parts in their derailurs. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"Steven L. Sheffield" wrote in message ... On 8/9/03 9:53 AM, in article , "Carl Sundquist" wrote: B. Lafferty wrote: With all that's on his list you'd think he was the second coming of Tulio Campagnolo. Lets hope not. Tullio thought index shifting was a passing fad and put Campy behind Shimano for years. Tullio died in 1983. Shimano didn't introduce index shifting for another 2-3 years. Suntour introduced 5-speed "click" shifting in 1969. http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/standard.xml?vpID=27 Shimano introduced their Positron index shifting in 1977, and Suntour introduced the Mighty Click rear derailleur in 1980. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/page35.htm Shimano didn't POPULARIZE index shifting until they introduced SIS with the 1985 Dura Ace group. Oops. However (in a weak effort to save face) didn't Positron require that weird Front Freewheel System? The crank/bb contained the freewheel and you really could shift while you were coasting because the rear cogs were fixed to the hub and the chainrings ratcheted around the crankset. Anyway, thanks for the historical correction Steven. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"CrankBreaker" wrote in message . 78.166... I am not a master of the English language but I don't see the words Invented or Patented or Architected or Built or Developed or Pooped outta his large imagination. I do see "Legacy of Racing innovation" which works for me as LeMond used a lot of gear in the Euro peloton before anyone else of import and due to his stature this led to rapid advancements that were adopted a peloton trying to figure out how to beat LeMond. He was an early and enthusiastic adopter of technology and techniques that the Euro community not only may have taken years to adopt but may have never adopted. Took an outsider to do it and he did it, kudos to him for shaking the tree. My gripe is that he didn't list ice cream (his biggest contribution to the Peloton) or decent living wages as some of his contributions. Dumbass - He was not the first to use some of that stuff, like "superlightweight frame" or "elevated seat position". |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
Too bad he was not allowed to strap a motor to his fat ass during the latter
part of his career. He may have won a couple more tours. "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message t... Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame 1981 Elevated seat position 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer snip That takes a lot of gall. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
You are very cruel.
"Roger Ramjet" wrote in message et... Too bad he was not allowed to strap a motor to his fat ass during the latter part of his career. He may have won a couple more tours. "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message t... Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame 1981 Elevated seat position 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer snip That takes a lot of gall. |
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