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Old July 27th 17, 11:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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Default New bike for Jay

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau
wrote:
Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do
for Jorge?

I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame
size you ride?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html






Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium
wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But
I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well.

I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process
of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my
commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western
Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself.
It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more
than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component
group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes.
This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so
who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a
dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me
something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just
didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted
a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike
sales are down. We have to do our part.


http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/





Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves
me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old
steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes
seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment
points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a
backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out
there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery
of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first
thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure
the frame I selected had provisions for that.

I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB.
Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even
during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in
case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The
available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food,
prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is
needed.

They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down
the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/
https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes


Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth.


By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search:
http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/




Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list?

Western Bikeworks has great deals. I got a Garmin 520 bundle for my
son at the Christmas in-store super-sale for about $275 USD. I like
the people there, too. It's internet and bricks-and-mortar.


Lately I find many bike shops going brick&mortar, web site, plus EBay.
What puzzles me happens on a regular basis: I see a part such as a tire
I want on their web site and it's $20. Ok but that's plus shipping which
makes the whole deal a non-starter. Then I go on EBay, find the same
tire for $15, free shipping, same (!) store. Yet there they must pay a
hefty sales commission. Beats me why they do that. An example is
Bikewagon in Utah where I always got free ship on EBay but not direct.


The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors
are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my
Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate.


I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if
they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a
clyde if 140mm rotors work.


Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300
lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the
rims once coming down Rocky Point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPqQptjbF0 Over the the 12 years I
owned the CX bike, my weight ranged from 193-220lbs. I'm closer to
the bottom end again. I never had problems stopping on my CX bike
with 140 rotors and mechanical discs unless I forgot to adjust the
pads or they wore out on the ride. And I live in a hilly place.

I'm not doing 20 mile 10% descents on the way to work. Maybe the
uber-gnarly steep roads in Cameron Park require 180mm rotors.



Not in Cameron Park which doesn't have long hills but in neighboring
areas. My MTB buddy weighs around 200lbs, his MTB has 8"/7" rotors, and
then it happened. Before the last sharp turn down a long descent he lost
his front brake.


I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel
and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need
of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I
might do.


So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip
yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one
pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I
am home.


No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding,
I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it
was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day
with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times.
No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every
50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles.
If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person.


Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding tens
of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not healthy for
anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way. Any reputable
sports physician would tell you the same. So does the army.

I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz electrolyte
ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water source I carry up to
1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often meet people, mostly hikers,
with serious signs of dehydration. Some of my water occasionally goes to
others.


Again, I'm talking about a road bike. I've run out of water and been miserable for a while, but I've always found water. I'm alive today, mostly.


The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to hike
up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying little
water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles which were all
empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near the trail shortly
before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed out into the nature right
there I wouldn't even have seen him and this guy was in major trouble.
Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand Canyon. And on and on.


I know people who killed themselves by drinking too much water. Google hyponatremia.

I've done the hike from Glacier Point to Half Dome a bunch of times. I usually stopped for water at Nevada Falls. I don't know why your guy was dropping dead at the cables. Dopes do dopey things.

They don't let you down into the Grand Canyon unless you have water, so I don't know what the deal was with your Chinese woman, either. Maybe she did some Kung Fu on the rangers who check your backpack for water, etc., and ran down the trail.

I've been riding a really long time -- continuously. No decade off for bad traffic. Never have I needed to take multiple gallons of water on a road ride, including rides across the US from east to west and north to south (west coast). I've done the Sierra many times, including the Death Ride twice -- which is really well supported, so no need for oodles of spare water. But even on tour, I think I had a couple of bottles for a loop from now-burning Mariposa/Yosemite/Lee Vining/Tahoe/HWY 49 back to Mariposa. I had two bottles on every other tour but did have a water bag that I mostly used as a blow-up pillow -- except in Wyoming.

I did screw up and forget to buy food on a bike tour in Oregon. My wife and I ended up eating blackberries for dinner. There have been other food or drink mistakes, but nothing epic. Riding down the wasteland of the California coast, we ran out of gin and tonic -- until we hit the Little River Inn. It was horrible! Ah ha! I did run out of water on that ride -- between HWY 1 south of Mendocino and Cloverdale, riding inland over the mountains which were more mountain-y than expected. We found a little winery in the middle of nowhere and filled up. We were headed toward a town that turned out not to be there. Very odd.

-- Jay Beattie.



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Old July 28th 17, 12:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:


[...]

I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on
gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found
myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack
mounts -- which I might do.


So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip
yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than
one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi
before I am home.

No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of
riding, I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a
place where it was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to
Portland in a day with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled
my bottles four times. No water bags. No racks. Just two water
bottles that I filled every 50 miles. The distance from Cameron
Park to Sacramento is 34 miles. If you need water bags for that,
then you are a special person.


Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding
tens of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not
healthy for anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way.
Any reputable sports physician would tell you the same. So does the
army.

I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz
electrolyte ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water
source I carry up to 1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often
meet people, mostly hikers, with serious signs of dehydration. Some
of my water occasionally goes to others.


Again, I'm talking about a road bike. I've run out of water and been
miserable for a while, but I've always found water. I'm alive today,
mostly.


It's ok once in a while but going into dehydration on a regular basis
will cause damage.



The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to
hike up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying
little water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles
which were all empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near
the trail shortly before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed
out into the nature right there I wouldn't even have seen him and
this guy was in major trouble. Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand
Canyon. And on and on.


I know people who killed themselves by drinking too much water.
Google hyponatremia.


You'd pretty much have to sop up the Columbia River on a bike to get there.


I've done the hike from Glacier Point to Half Dome a bunch of times.
I usually stopped for water at Nevada Falls. I don't know why your
guy was dropping dead at the cables. Dopes do dopey things.


Every time I was there they had signs posted not to drink it because of
Guardia. I guess some folks drank it anyhow.


They don't let you down into the Grand Canyon unless you have water,
so I don't know what the deal was with your Chinese woman, either.
Maybe she did some Kung Fu on the rangers who check your backpack for
water, etc., and ran down the trail.


It's been over 20 years since I was there last but I hiked down to the
Colorado and back numerous times. Kaibab - Bright Angel or sometimes
only on the Bright Angel trail. Nobody ever checked us. In fact, there
wasn't anyone there to check us. The only rangers were at the station
shortly before heading out to the plateau. That's where we brought the
Chinese woman because it looked like she could not walk any farther uphill.


I've been riding a really long time -- continuously. No decade off
for bad traffic. Never have I needed to take multiple gallons of
water on a road ride, including rides across the US from east to west
and north to south (west coast). I've done the Sierra many times,
including the Death Ride twice -- which is really well supported, so
no need for oodles of spare water.



Some routes are well-supported, then I don't take much water either. MTB
routes often have zilch. What you don't carry in you simply won't have
available.


... But even on tour, I think I had a
couple of bottles for a loop from now-burning Mariposa/Yosemite/Lee
Vining/Tahoe/HWY 49 back to Mariposa. I had two bottles on every
other tour but did have a water bag that I mostly used as a blow-up
pillow -- except in Wyoming.

I did screw up and forget to buy food on a bike tour in Oregon. My
wife and I ended up eating blackberries for dinner.



I did that. Once. Not because I messed up but because they looked so
delicious. Probably close to two pounds and then I felt a very sudden
urge to pedal home. Fast.


... There have been
other food or drink mistakes, but nothing epic. Riding down the
wasteland of the California coast, we ran out of gin and tonic --
until we hit the Little River Inn. It was horrible! Ah ha! I did run
out of water on that ride -- between HWY 1 south of Mendocino and
Cloverdale, riding inland over the mountains which were more
mountain-y than expected. We found a little winery in the middle of
nowhere and filled up. We were headed toward a town that turned out
not to be there. Very odd.


I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we got there it
was completely deserted and quiet, the only noise being an old gas
station sign squeaking in the wind.

--
Regards, Joerg

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Old July 28th 17, 01:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:58:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

It's Giardia - (Gee-ardia) - this is the most common water born parasite. Most of the water on the west coast has it because there are so many areas without proper sanitary treatment facilities. That's why you should NEVER drink any water from anywhere that isn't treated.

This is world wide. The medications to clear the runs up normally only works about 2/3rds of the time. Although it usually clears up by itself in two or so weeks it can leave effects for a year.

NOT FUN.

Any areas that are posted should also be treated as non-swimming and non-washing.
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Old July 28th 17, 01:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 7/27/2017 6:58 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote:
July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:

snip

I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we
got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only
noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind.


especially after the Cameron Park train pulls out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU



--
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Old July 28th 17, 02:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:26:37 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau
wrote:
Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do
for Jorge?

I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame
size you ride?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html






Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium
wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But
I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well.

I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process
of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my
commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western
Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself.
It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more
than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component
group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes.
This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so
who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a
dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me
something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just
didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted
a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike
sales are down. We have to do our part.


http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/





Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves
me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old
steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes
seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment
points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a
backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out
there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery
of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first
thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure
the frame I selected had provisions for that.

I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB.
Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even
during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in
case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The
available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food,
prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is
needed.

They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down
the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/
https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes


Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth.


By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search:
http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/




Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list?

Western Bikeworks has great deals. I got a Garmin 520 bundle for my
son at the Christmas in-store super-sale for about $275 USD. I like
the people there, too. It's internet and bricks-and-mortar.


Lately I find many bike shops going brick&mortar, web site, plus EBay.
What puzzles me happens on a regular basis: I see a part such as a tire
I want on their web site and it's $20. Ok but that's plus shipping which
makes the whole deal a non-starter. Then I go on EBay, find the same
tire for $15, free shipping, same (!) store. Yet there they must pay a
hefty sales commission. Beats me why they do that. An example is
Bikewagon in Utah where I always got free ship on EBay but not direct.


The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors
are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my
Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate.


I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if
they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a
clyde if 140mm rotors work.

Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300
lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the
rims once coming down Rocky Point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPqQptjbF0 Over the the 12 years I
owned the CX bike, my weight ranged from 193-220lbs. I'm closer to
the bottom end again. I never had problems stopping on my CX bike
with 140 rotors and mechanical discs unless I forgot to adjust the
pads or they wore out on the ride. And I live in a hilly place.

I'm not doing 20 mile 10% descents on the way to work. Maybe the
uber-gnarly steep roads in Cameron Park require 180mm rotors.



Not in Cameron Park which doesn't have long hills but in neighboring
areas. My MTB buddy weighs around 200lbs, his MTB has 8"/7" rotors, and
then it happened. Before the last sharp turn down a long descent he lost
his front brake.


I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel
and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need
of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I
might do.


So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip
yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one
pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I
am home.

No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding,
I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it
was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day
with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times.
No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every
50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles.
If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person.


Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding tens
of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not healthy for
anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way. Any reputable
sports physician would tell you the same. So does the army.

I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz electrolyte
ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water source I carry up to
1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often meet people, mostly hikers,
with serious signs of dehydration. Some of my water occasionally goes to
others.


Again, I'm talking about a road bike. I've run out of water and been miserable for a while, but I've always found water. I'm alive today, mostly.


The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to hike
up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying little
water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles which were all
empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near the trail shortly
before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed out into the nature right
there I wouldn't even have seen him and this guy was in major trouble.
Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand Canyon. And on and on.


I know people who killed themselves by drinking too much water. Google hyponatremia.

I've done the hike from Glacier Point to Half Dome a bunch of times. I usually stopped for water at Nevada Falls. I don't know why your guy was dropping dead at the cables. Dopes do dopey things.

They don't let you down into the Grand Canyon unless you have water, so I don't know what the deal was with your Chinese woman, either. Maybe she did some Kung Fu on the rangers who check your backpack for water, etc., and ran down the trail.

I've been riding a really long time -- continuously. No decade off for bad traffic. Never have I needed to take multiple gallons of water on a road ride, including rides across the US from east to west and north to south (west coast). I've done the Sierra many times, including the Death Ride twice -- which is really well supported, so no need for oodles of spare water. But even on tour, I think I had a couple of bottles for a loop from now-burning Mariposa/Yosemite/Lee Vining/Tahoe/HWY 49 back to Mariposa. I had two bottles on every other tour but did have a water bag that I mostly used as a blow-up pillow -- except in Wyoming.

I did screw up and forget to buy food on a bike tour in Oregon. My wife and I ended up eating blackberries for dinner. There have been other food or drink mistakes, but nothing epic. Riding down the wasteland of the California coast, we ran out of gin and tonic -- until we hit the Little River Inn. It was horrible! Ah ha! I did run out of water on that ride -- between HWY 1 south of Mendocino and Cloverdale, riding inland over the mountains which were more mountain-y than expected. We found a little winery in the middle of nowhere and filled up. We were headed toward a town that turned out not to be there. Very odd.

-- Jay Beattie.


not challenging your authority but the idea is if you are thirsty then drink water ... good water.

what you're telling us is you know how thirsty you are from A-B

pre hydrating with carb loading is a good start

costX2+10%
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Old July 28th 17, 03:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
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Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.


When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles.

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Old July 28th 17, 03:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/27/2017 6:58 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote:
July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:

snip

I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we
got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only
noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind.


especially after the Cameron Park train pulls out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU


Nevada and Utah have so many ghost towns that there are probably more of those than actual towns.
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Old July 28th 17, 03:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 8:22:57 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.


When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles.


Yesterday I rode a metric with one small and really bad cup of coffee. And I averaged 14.5 mph even though I was riding through city traffic with stop signs and lights everywhere. I did hydrate after I got home.
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Old July 28th 17, 06:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 9:31:55 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge?

I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html


Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well.

I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part.

My uber-bike to replace the smashed SuperSix is going to be an Emonda because my son loves his, and I do work for Trek, so they'll give me a deal on a great bike. I like dealing with the fine folks in Wisconsin. I have always gone with the US companies because I'm a krypto-nationalist, even if the production is done elsewhere (or a lot of it). I like long warranties. If someone gave me a Pinarello, however, I would not throw it out -- although I'm not hot on Italiano BBs.

-- Jay Beattie.


oooo, katakura, mmmm
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...238219852.html
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Old July 28th 17, 08:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-07-27 17:46, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/27/2017 6:58 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote:
July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:

snip

I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we
got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only
noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind.


especially after the Cameron Park train pulls out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU


That was one of the best Westerns of all times. I have seen it almost 20
times.

Next week I'll ride through he

https://cdn-files.apstatic.com/mtb/1...1371328168.jpg

It used to be a tunnel but the top is gone. Lots of lore about how that
happened. Maybe Rooster Cogburn came through there and blew it all up.

--
Regards, Joerg

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