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Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Aug 4, 1:16 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman" ""sunsetss0003\"@invalida .com" wrote: See http://www2.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/69er.html. Is the bigger front wheel to better roll over obstacles, or is it just a demented fashion statement? Conversely, does the smaller rear wheel provide any real advantage? What is the deal with single-speed anyway? Are there prudish Trek dealers out there who will not carry this bike because the name, or dealers who would be afraid of offending their customers? Is the "69er" name meant to appeal to the BMX crowd who buys products such as the "Snafu Rim Job" tires? Is the Waterloo, Wisconsin water supply contaminated with a parasite that causes brain dysfunction? Who exactly is the target market for this bike? Hi there. The smaller rear wheel gives a slightly lower gear than the bike would have with a 29 rear wheel. Why not accomplish the same thing with a smaller chainring or larger sprocket? It looks like a trials bike not a mountain bike, I thought this was a trials bike: http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/26ghz-trials.html - not much like the 69er is it? Do US trials differ a lot from UK trials? Market? People who like to ride over obstacles. I usually crash over obstacles [1] in a demonstration of my sub-Barney riding skills. [1] No Sorni, this is on my ATB [2], not one of the 'bents! [2] ATB seems more appropriate than MTB, since there are no real mountains in most of the Upper Midwest. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman" ""sunsetss0003\"@invalida .com" wrote: Is the bigger front wheel to better roll over obstacles, or is it just a demented fashion statement? Conversely, does the smaller rear wheel provide any real advantage? What is the deal with single-speed anyway? .... Who exactly is the target market for this bike? personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless. i pass at least 5 fixies a week on the various hills of my weekday ride, never had things happen the other way around. and i'm a CLYDESDALE, for heaven's sake. i'm carrying 3 pounds more bike and 20 pounds more of me up those hills. i had somebody on one of those ultra hip surly fixies chase me DOWN a hill one time, but he disappeared at the halfway point when it threw its chain. i have no idea if he hurt himself but it made an extremely entertaining noise. sometimes technology marches on for no apparent reason, but the derailleur was invented to fix a very real problem. so the whole derailleur/shifter/cassette system adds a couple of pounds to the total: it gets you where you're going faster and with less effort. i'm sure there are a few very specialized areas of competition where these things are used. i, however, use my bike for recreation and transportation. |
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See http://www2.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/69er.html.
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote: Is the bigger front wheel to better roll over obstacles, or is it just a demented fashion statement? Conversely, does the smaller rear wheel provide any real advantage? What is the deal with single-speed anyway? Are there prudish Trek dealers out there who will not carry this bike because the name, or dealers who would be afraid of offending their customers? Is the "69er" name meant to appeal to the BMX crowd who buys products such as the "Snafu Rim Job" tires? Is the Waterloo, Wisconsin water supply contaminated with a parasite that causes brain dysfunction? Who exactly is the target market for this bike? Cannondog made a 26/24 bike at one time. Bill Boston built small front/large rear, much copied. Target? PT Barnum observed the effect long ago. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:36:01 -0500, DougC
wrote: [snip] With motorcycles, the reason I was told was precisely because using a smaller rear tire allows the tire to be mounted closer under the rider+frame, contributing to level-ground traction. On-road motorcycles don't bother with it because for them it's not a significant advantage. Dear Doug, Sorry, but they told you wrong. The thick rear 18 x 4.00 tire on a trials motorcycle isn't smaller. It's just as tall as the skinny 21 x 2.75 front ti http://i16.tinypic.com/4pl4yhk.jpg And level-ground traction is not a problem on a trials machine. Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, Fred Clydesdale wrote:
personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless. We can't all be closed-minded dumbasses. i pass at least 5 fixies a week on the various hills of my weekday ride, never had things happen the other way around. and i'm a CLYDESDALE, for heaven's sake. i'm carrying 3 pounds more bike and 20 pounds more of me up those hills. C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's loaded with punks and poseurs. JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass |
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On Aug 4, 3:36 pm, DougC wrote:
(-It's a different matter I realize but-) The Cannondale MTB that was 26/24 F/R did not use a fatter tire on the back, both were the usual 2.2 inches. You could tell just by looking, that the front rim and tire was visibly taller than the rear. I remember because I was shopping for a MTB when they were in shops, and I remember looking at it and thinking "WTF?". It wouldn't automatically turn me off now, but not wanting the hassle of buying 24" tires and tubes back then--I disregarded it pretty quickly, without even a test-ride. I was told at the time that they used a 26 on the front because it was more stable-steering than a 24 would be, and they used a 24 on the rear because people thought that long chainstays wasted energy somehow, and a 24's contact patch could be set closer to the seat tube than a 26. IIRC (becoming more of an issue as time goes by), the 26/24 Cannondale MTB was called the "Beast of the East", supposedly because the "eastern" riders demanded a more manuverable bike with a lighter rear end and higher bottom bracket, as opposed to "western" riders who were all about bombing down fire roads and could care less about hopping over roots. Cliques are nothing new. Jeff |
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On Aug 4, 7:45 pm, JD wrote:
On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, Fred Clydesdale wrote: personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless. We can't all be closed-minded dumbasses. i pass at least 5 fixies a week on the various hills of my weekday ride, never had things happen the other way around. and i'm a CLYDESDALE, for heaven's sake. i'm carrying 3 pounds more bike and 20 pounds more of me up those hills. C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's loaded with punks and poseurs. JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass No one talks smack quite like a SS or fixie freak..... |
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once lived upstream from a village had giardia from dem rascally beevuh. bad news |
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