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Racing cyclist that killed a pedestrian at a crossing
Organisers of the London Triathlon face a huge fine after a pensioner was
killed by a cyclist on the racecourse. Alhaj Jain Ullah, 67, was trying to cross the track at a supervised crossing point when the cyclist smashed into him in Wapping. Mr Ullah, who walked with a stick after a stroke, was thrown into the air and landed several feet away, Snaresbrook crown court heard. Witnesses said there was panic as competitors, including a medical student and an off-duty policeman, got off their bikes to help Mr Ullah on August 2, 2009. He was taken to the Royal London Hospital in a critical condition and died five days later. Judge Timothy Lamb said: "I am used to hearing expressions of remorse in mitigation from defendants in these cases." Mr Ullah (victim's son) said: "The judge had to comment before their barrister would say anything. It just shows the level of remorse they feel. The fine doesn't mean anything to me. If they'd admitted their guilt already, they could at least have started off with an apology." IMG (race organisers) will be sentenced later this month. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/c...t-7603300.html |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:47:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote: August 2, 2009 Wow! Is this the latest pedestrian death caused by a cyclist? Pedestrians really are very safe from cyclists. I wonder how often pedestrians are killed tripping over broken paving slabs... Are paving slabs more dangerous to pedestians than cyclists? |
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Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:47:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: August 2, 2009 Wow! Is this the latest pedestrian death caused by a cyclist? Pedestrians really are very safe from cyclists. I wonder how often pedestrians are killed tripping over broken paving slabs... Are paving slabs more dangerous to pedestians than cyclists? No, not the latest (I did not claim it was) but they are only now dealing with it, which is why it is news today. This is a uk cycling group, my post is about cycling in the UK, not paving slabs. Do try to keep on track for the group. |
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On Mar 30, 10:14*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:47:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: August 2, 2009 Wow! Is this the latest pedestrian death caused by a cyclist? Pedestrians really are very safe from cyclists. I wonder how often pedestrians are killed tripping over broken paving slabs... Are paving slabs more dangerous to pedestians than cyclists? Bertie Wooster, you are troll-feeding and thus contributing to the downfall of uk.rec.cycling. I would ask you not to give this person the satisfaction of a reply next time. |
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Zapp Brannigan wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Organisers of the London Triathlon face a huge fine after a pensioner was killed by a cyclist on the racecourse. Over in uklm there is debate about saying X "killed" Y without some finding that X was actually responsible for it (civilly or criminally). This case seems to be another example - the codger died in a collision with the cyclist, but the killing was arguably done by the organisers who failed to ensure safe arrangements. If someone wanders onto an F1 racetrack and is fatally injured, we wouldn't say "Lewis Hamilton killed a pensioner...." " IMG UK, which has organised the race for 10,000 competitors since 2001, admitted breaching health and safety regulations. It failed to put up barriers at crossings and to ensure that staff were adequately trained in crowd control." in this case the competitor knew that there were crossing points and failed to anticipate that someone might use them and ride accordingly upon approaching them. the organisers may have been negligent, but the cyclist killed the elderly person, who certainly did not leap unexpectedly in front of the cyclist. |
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On Mar 30, 11:26*pm, M Wicks wrote:
On Mar 30, 10:14*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:47:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: August 2, 2009 Wow! Is this the latest pedestrian death caused by a cyclist? Pedestrians really are very safe from cyclists. I wonder how often pedestrians are killed tripping over broken paving slabs... Are paving slabs more dangerous to pedestians than cyclists? Bertie Wooster, you are troll-feeding and thus contributing to the downfall of uk.rec.cycling. I would ask you not to give this person the satisfaction of a reply next time. If you don't like it go somewhere else, try the moderated group they may be looking to recruit another control freak. |
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On Mar 31, 12:56*am, "Zapp Brannigan" wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Organisers of the London Triathlon face a huge fine after a pensioner was killed by a cyclist on the racecourse. Over in uklm there is debate about saying X "killed" Y without some finding that X was actually responsible for it (civilly or criminally). *This case seems to be another example - the codger died in a collision with the cyclist, but the killing was arguably done by the organisers who failed to ensure safe arrangements. *If someone wanders onto an F1 racetrack and is fatally injured, we wouldn't say "Lewis Hamilton killed a pensioner...." Some would, especially Ferrari fanboys. |
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Bertie Wooster wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:47:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: August 2, 2009 Wow! Is this the latest pedestrian death caused by a cyclist? Pedestrians really are very safe from cyclists. I wonder how often pedestrians are killed tripping over broken paving slabs... Are paving slabs more dangerous to pedestians than cyclists? No, not the latest (I did not claim it was) but they are only now dealing with it, which is why it is news today. This is a uk cycling group, my post is about cycling in the UK, not paving slabs. Do try to keep on track for the group. Paving slabs are more relevant for most cyclists than road surfaces are. |
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Tris wrote:
In post "Mrcheerful" wrote: Zapp Brannigan wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Organisers of the London Triathlon face a huge fine after a pensioner was killed by a cyclist on the racecourse. Over in uklm there is debate about saying X "killed" Y without some finding that X was actually responsible for it (civilly or criminally). This case seems to be another example - the codger died in a collision with the cyclist, but the killing was arguably done by the organisers who failed to ensure safe arrangements. If someone wanders onto an F1 racetrack and is fatally injured, we wouldn't say "Lewis Hamilton killed a pensioner...." " IMG UK, which has organised the race for 10,000 competitors since 2001, admitted breaching health and safety regulations. It failed to put up barriers at crossings and to ensure that staff were adequately trained in crowd control." in this case the competitor knew that there were crossing points and failed to anticipate that someone might use them and ride accordingly upon approaching them. the organisers may have been negligent, but the cyclist killed the elderly person, who certainly did not leap unexpectedly in front of the cyclist. Are you saying that the cyclist competitor was to blame for the death of the unfortunate elderly person? Was the cyclist charged with any offence as a result if this incident? the cyclist hit him, the cyclist was responsible for his death. AFAIK the cyclist was not charged with any offence. |
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Tris wrote:
In post "Mrcheerful" wrote: Tris wrote: In post "Mrcheerful" wrote: Zapp Brannigan wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Organisers of the London Triathlon face a huge fine after a pensioner was killed by a cyclist on the racecourse. Over in uklm there is debate about saying X "killed" Y without some finding that X was actually responsible for it (civilly or criminally). This case seems to be another example - the codger died in a collision with the cyclist, but the killing was arguably done by the organisers who failed to ensure safe arrangements. If someone wanders onto an F1 racetrack and is fatally injured, we wouldn't say "Lewis Hamilton killed a pensioner...." " IMG UK, which has organised the race for 10,000 competitors since 2001, admitted breaching health and safety regulations. It failed to put up barriers at crossings and to ensure that staff were adequately trained in crowd control." in this case the competitor knew that there were crossing points and failed to anticipate that someone might use them and ride accordingly upon approaching them. the organisers may have been negligent, but the cyclist killed the elderly person, who certainly did not leap unexpectedly in front of the cyclist. Are you saying that the cyclist competitor was to blame for the death of the unfortunate elderly person? Was the cyclist charged with any offence as a result if this incident? the cyclist hit him, the cyclist was responsible for his death. AFAIK the cyclist was not charged with any offence. So, the cyclist wasn't held legally responsible then. Where there's blame, there's a claim (if you believe the tv ads.) - was any civil action taken against the cyclist? If not, or if there was and you don't know the outcome, should you really go around making assertions, without proof, regarding the responsibility of people involved in such unfortunate situations? Some circumstances are accidents waiting to happen, and some of them regrettably cause accidental deaths. Did the ped. die as a result of the cyclist running into him? |
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