on Bush and his crashes

Mark Hickey wrote:

gwhite wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:

What does it take to truly believe that a truly dumb person could
actually rise to the most powerful position on earth?

One must only register as a democrat. That's all. In fact, for how
foolish George Bush does appear at times, it is an absolute miracle he's
not a democrat. Of course, he can't compete with Edwards, who seems
hell-bent to set new standards.

You may have something there... Theresa Heinz-Kerry seems to have
switched off the common sense circuits fairly often since converting
to Democrat (she was a registered Republican until John's candidacy -
oops). Maybe a lot of people at the convention were smoking weed and
it got to her... ;-) ,---- note


That's it. If Bush is so stupid, why isn't he a democrat?

What does it take to truly believe that a truly dumb person could
actually rise to the most powerful position on earth?

One must only register as a democrat. That's all. In fact, for how
foolish George Bush does appear at times, it is an absolute miracle he's
not a democrat. Of course, he can't compete with Edwards, who seems
hell-bent to set new standards.

If you are a Republican and that's the best you can say about Bush, you're
in a sad, sad way.

Pat, an Independent.

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...

It should be easy for Shrub to keep in shape, since he has never worked
a real job in his life.

What a dip****. If being Governor of Texas and * PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES * doesn't qualify as a "Real Job", I don't know what does.

Are you really that stupid?

Dave

Raoul Duke wrote:

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...

It should be easy for Shrub to keep in shape, since he has never worked
a real job in his life.

What a dip****. If being Governor of Texas and * PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES * doesn't qualify as a "Real Job", I don't know what does.

Are you really that stupid?

He (and Jobst Brandt) thinks that the reason 62 million died in the
Soviet Union was because of "bad leaders" rather than bad ideology. So
yes, he really is that stupid.


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*Peacetime* body count:

Location (Regime) Deaths Era

Soviet Union (Communist) 61,900,000 1917-1990
China (Communist) 35,200,000 1949-present
Germany (Nazi-Fascist) 20,900,000 1933-1945
China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949
Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945
China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948
Cambodia (Communist) 2,000,000 1975-1979
Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000 1909-1917
Vietnam (Communist) 1,700,000 1945-present
Korea (Communist) 1,700,000 1948-present
Poland (Communist) 1,600,000 1945-1948
Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971
Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920
Yugoslavia (Communist) 1,100,000 1944-1990
Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917
Turkey ("Ataturk") 900,000 1918-1923
United Kingdom (Democratic) 800,000 1900-present
Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975
Croatia (Fascist) 700,000 1941-1945
Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present

http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/199..._5genocide.pdf



"Once we remember the possibility of the existence of such a system, the
differences between
socialism and fascism become trivial, superficial and, above all,
non-essential. Differentiation of
socialism and fascism from capitalism permits the recognition of their
similarity. They do differ
from each other, but only in the way in which the scalene and the
isosceles differ from each other:
in degree, but not in kind. Socialism and fascism are each forms of
statism, forms of government in
which the government is given complete or extensive control over the
lives of its citizens."
http://www.lawrence.edu/sorg/objectivism/socfasc.html

Raoul Duke wrote:

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...

It should be easy for Shrub to keep in shape, since he has never worked
a real job in his life.

What a dip****. If being Governor of Texas and * PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES * doesn't qualify as a "Real Job", I don't know what does.

Are you really that stupid?

Shrub has had plenty of advisors and handlers to do all the real work,
including telling him what to say and think during his political career.
Not at all the same thing as being handed several hours of work in the
late afternoon that is due the morning (or similar situations).

Additionally, Shrub has never had any real job pressure on him during
his life, since whatever mistakes he would make were taken care of by
"daddy's friends".

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Tom Sherman wrote:

Shrub has had plenty of advisors and handlers to do all the real work,
including telling him what to say and think during his political career.

Hmmmm, which is at odds with "he never listens to anyone" schtick
that's also trotted out as gospel. Heh. Would you guys make up your
mind - it's so confusing... ;-)

Not at all the same thing as being handed several hours of work in the
late afternoon that is due the morning (or similar situations).

Additionally, Shrub has never had any real job pressure on him during
his life, since whatever mistakes he would make were taken care of by
"daddy's friends".

I'll wager GWB has more pressure in a given week than 99% of us will
face in the course of a tough year. I know I wouldn't want the job,
especially with the acid environment in Washington DC right now
(neither candidate can do anything that's not going to get ripped
apart by the other side).

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*Peacetime* body count:

Location (Regime) Deaths Era

Soviet Union (Communist) 61,900,000 1917-1990
China (Communist) 35,200,000 1949-present
Germany (Nazi-Fascist) 20,900,000 1933-1945
China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949
Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945
China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948
Cambodia (Communist) 2,000,000 1975-1979
Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000 1909-1917
Vietnam (Communist) 1,700,000 1945-present
Korea (Communist) 1,700,000 1948-present
Poland (Communist) 1,600,000 1945-1948
Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971
Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920
Yugoslavia (Communist) 1,100,000 1944-1990
Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917
Turkey ("Ataturk") 900,000 1918-1923
United Kingdom (Democratic) 800,000 1900-present
Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975
Croatia (Fascist) 700,000 1941-1945
Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present

I guess that the US doesn't make the list as the Native
American genocide was only in the thousands. We're hard to
beat when it comes to slavery though!

By the way, I think that the numbers for Indonesia are a bit
low. I've read figures over 2 million. The CIA helped a
bit there because the Suharto regime was supposedly going
after the communists.

Plus, remember that China is our biggest trading partner.
Go WalMart! If I understand our government's position,
trade with China and Vietnam is very good, but trade with
Cuba is very bad.

Todd Kuzma
Heron Bicycles
Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery
LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776
http://www.heronbicycles.com
http://www.tullios.com

A Muzi wrote in message ...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:56:14 GMT, "mark"
wrote:
In their subtle way, I think they're trying to say GWB's not real smart,
period.

Werehatrack wrote:
It takes subtlety to *not* say it. It takes blindness to not see it.

Mark Hickey wrote:
What does it take to truly believe that a truly dumb person could
actually rise to the most powerful position on earth?

He was underestimated in the election for his first term, too.

You mean "misunderestimated".

:
I know I wouldn't want the job,
:

And most of us wouldn't want you to have the job either.

App

Todd Kuzma wrote:


I guess that the US doesn't make the list as the Native
American genocide was only in the thousands.


Exactly -- that is the point. For as horrendopus and dispicable as the
treatment of the Indians was, the US doesn't make the list. One
especially keen example of mistreatment was Andrew Jackson (founder of
the Democrat party) ignoring the Supreme Court and sending the
Cherokee's out on the The Trail of Tears. The Cherokees had adopted
some of the euro culture in accepting the concept of property rights,
only to have it violated by Jackson (hah hah, what's new with
democrats).

No, the US was/is no utopia. But *comparatively*, it is better than any
place else. People still immigrate here. Few ever leave, although I
can think of a few that should.

There was a utopia, or so it was promised to be. Here's what happened
the

*Peacetime* body count
Location (Regime) Deaths Era

Soviet Union (Communist) 61,900,000 1917-1990
China (Communist) 35,200,000 1949-present


We're hard to beat when it comes to slavery though!

What! You prop up straw men? The only way a USA could come into being
was to accept slavery initially. This much cannot be argued against by
anyone with at least a rudimentary study of history. You could argue
that the USA should then have *not* come into being. Okay, you can say
that. What does it mean in a comparative sense since utopia is a pipe
dream for doofuses that smoke but don't inhale (meaning they'ed think
more clearly if they were stoned -- that's how cracked they are)?

It means slavery might *still* exist in the South. It means separate
states might have warred constantly with each other instead of just once
(and that one time terminated the slavery issue forever). You would
have at least some difficulty saying the USA should never have been
*and* that non-existance would be a better comparative result than what
we in fact ended up with. Slavery was a political compromise of the
time, not the bad dream of a 21st century couch potato.

By the way, I think that the numbers for Indonesia are a bit
low. I've read figures over 2 million. The CIA helped a
bit there because the Suharto regime was supposedly going
after the communists.

"...helped a bit...?" I already posted the data. So okay, give the bad
ole US *all* the credit. We don't bust 1 million.

Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present

"A regime whose hands are as bloody as those of the Suharto regime in
Indonesia-with the blood on its hands of perhaps 450,000 communists,
suspected communists, and others who simply were in the wrong place at
the wrong time at its creation in 1965, and perhaps 150,000 inhabitants
of East Timor since the Indonesian takeover in the mid-1970s--such a
regime barely makes the twentieth century's top twenty list as far as
the massacre of civilians is concerned."
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/TCE...ch_power4.html

But since you have decided to go ahead and play the body count game, you
might want to count people saved to. There again we are not perfect,
just better (by a lot).

Plus, remember that China is our biggest trading partner.
Go WalMart!

Ah yes, evil Wal-mart. There is nothing worse than convenience, low
prices, and liberal return policies. OUTRAGEOUS!!!

If I understand our government's position,
trade with China and Vietnam is very good, but trade with
Cuba is very bad.

Would that be the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton,
or Bush administrations whose Cuba policies you find inconsistant? I
guess it must be Bush 43,... right?

http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/TCE...vergence5.html