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Old August 26th 17, 01:15 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4822476/Fixie-fans-defend-illegal-cyclist-crashed-mother.html

QUOTE:
[Dishonest] cyclists have taken to online forums to defend Charlie
Alliston who fatally injured a mother-of-two with his bike and some
claim they are in the midst a 'witch hunt'.

Kim Briggs, 44, has also been described as a 'zombie pedestrian' by
[bike-fan] critics who repeated *false* claims she was on the phone when
Alliston ploughed into her on his illegal 'fixie'.
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Old August 26th 17, 11:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake is
illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially pedestrians.
Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for Kim Briggs'
family, and it was entirely right that this led to his prosecution."
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Old August 26th 17, 11:57 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 26/08/2017 11:09, TMS320 wrote:

This is the response of Cycling UK


No. It isn't.

It is PART of a short opinion-piece article on their website.

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case


"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake is
illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially pedestrians.
Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for Kim Briggs'
family, and it was entirely right that this led to his prosecution."


Had it stopped there, the piece would have been an expression of
reasonable opinion.

But it goes on to seek to divert blame onto the "the government" and
even (almost unbelievably*) onto other road-users.

It then links to another of their pages which "explains" that whenever a
turd cyclist kills or injures a pedestrian, it's all the fault of drivers.


[*except that this was the cyclinguk.org website, so it was entirely
believable that it would appear there.]

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Old August 26th 17, 02:48 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake is
illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially pedestrians.
Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for Kim Briggs'
family, and it was entirely right that this led to his prosecution."


And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was he wearing a helmet?'
A low energy impact like this is just the sort of thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad Angela campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


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Old August 26th 17, 03:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Simon Jester wrote:

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake
is illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially
pedestrians. Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for
Kim Briggs' family, and it was entirely right that this led to his
prosecution."


And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was he
wearing a helmet?' A low energy impact like this is just the sort of
thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad Angela
campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


Because the would make her "Sensible Angie" and that's never going to
happen.

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Old August 26th 17, 05:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 26/08/2017 15:43, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Simon Jester wrote:

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake
is illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially
pedestrians. Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for
Kim Briggs' family, and it was entirely right that this led to his
prosecution."


And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was he
wearing a helmet?' A low energy impact like this is just the sort of
thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad Angela
campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


Because the would make her "Sensible Angie" and that's never going to
happen.


It is quite feasible that the woman would have survived the impact if
the cyclist HAD been wearing a helmet, so why was the cyclist NOT
wearing a helmet.
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Old August 26th 17, 07:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 5:33:47 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 26/08/2017 15:43, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Simon Jester wrote:

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake
is illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially
pedestrians. Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for
Kim Briggs' family, and it was entirely right that this led to his
prosecution."

And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was he
wearing a helmet?' A low energy impact like this is just the sort of
thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad Angela
campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


Because the would make her "Sensible Angie" and that's never going to
happen.


It is quite feasible that the woman would have survived the impact if
the cyclist HAD been wearing a helmet, so why was the cyclist NOT
wearing a helmet.


How did you reach this conclusion?

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Old August 26th 17, 07:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Simon Jester wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 5:33:47 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 26/08/2017 15:43, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Simon Jester wrote:

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake
is illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially
pedestrians. Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences
for Kim Briggs' family, and it was entirely right that this led
to his prosecution."

And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was
he wearing a helmet?' A low energy impact like this is just the
sort of thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad
Angela campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


Because the would make her "Sensible Angie" and that's never going
to happen.


It is quite feasible that the woman would have survived the impact if
the cyclist HAD been wearing a helmet, so why was the cyclist NOT
wearing a helmet.


How did you reach this conclusion?


It was not a conclusion, it was a suggested feasibility.
My word, you are a stupid person. Typical cyclist.


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Old August 26th 17, 08:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 26/08/2017 14:48, Simon Jester wrote:

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake is
illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially pedestrians.
Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for Kim Briggs'
family, and it was entirely right that this led to his prosecution."


And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was he wearing a helmet?'


Didn't happen, so not relevant.

A low energy impact like this is just the sort of thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad Angela campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


What has the Chancellor of Germany to do with it?

[I am well aware they you probably mean the Shadow Secretary of State
for Education.]
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Old August 26th 17, 08:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 26/08/2017 19:37, Simon Jester wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 5:33:47 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 26/08/2017 15:43, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Simon Jester wrote:

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 11:09:09 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
This is the response of Cycling UK

http://www.cyclinguk.org/press-relea...-alliston-case

"Riding a fixed wheel bicycle on busy roads without a front brake
is illegal, stupid, and endangers other road users especially
pedestrians. Charlie Alliston's actions had tragic consequences for
Kim Briggs' family, and it was entirely right that this led to his
prosecution."

And if the cyclist had died the first question asked would be 'Was he
wearing a helmet?' A low energy impact like this is just the sort of
thing cycle helmets can protect against so why doesn't Mad Angela
campaign for mandatory pedestrian helmets?


Because the would make her "Sensible Angie" and that's never going to
happen.


It is quite feasible that the woman would have survived the impact if
the cyclist HAD been wearing a helmet, so why was the cyclist NOT
wearing a helmet.


How did you reach this conclusion?


Did you not read the reports of the case?

The killer cyclist said under oath that his head had collided with the
victim's head. That could have been the fatal blow. There are recorded
isntances of drivers being killed when their head is struck by the head
of a rear seat passenger.
 




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