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Component upgrade?
Howdy,
I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. The higher priced Giant OCR bikes have 9-speed systems but use the same frame as the OCR-3. I love my bike but may want to upgrade the components in the future. Thanks, Rob |
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"Oz" wrote in news:5Bh5d.3242$%06.810
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. Upgrading is not hard, but it is not cheap and the performance gains are not large. You can save a lot of money by just buying a better bike to begin with. |
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"Ken" wrote in message
... "Oz" wrote in news:5Bh5d.3242$%06.810 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. Upgrading is not hard, but it is not cheap and the performance gains are not large. You can save a lot of money by just buying a better bike to begin with. there is also the factor of the longevity of the parts. i know there is a big difference between a 7 and a 9 cassette. the 9 is much thinner and wears out much sooner. i dont know how and 8 sora would compare to a 9 dura-ace or ultegra (anyone know?). OTOH the new STI systems are very nice. -alan |
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"Ken" wrote in message
... "Oz" wrote in news:5Bh5d.3242$%06.810 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. Upgrading is not hard, but it is not cheap and the performance gains are not large. You can save a lot of money by just buying a better bike to begin with. Yeah . . . . . . If I could have afforded a $2,000 bike I would have bought one. Kinda hard to justify a purchase like that with 4 kids to raise/feed/clothe. Then again, for my first bike I did not want to drop that kind of money. |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:03:45 GMT, "Oz" wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message ... "Oz" wrote in news:5Bh5d.3242$%06.810 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. Upgrading is not hard, but it is not cheap and the performance gains are not large. You can save a lot of money by just buying a better bike to begin with. Yeah . . . . . . If I could have afforded a $2,000 bike I would have bought one. Kinda hard to justify a purchase like that with 4 kids to raise/feed/clothe. Then again, for my first bike I did not want to drop that kind of money. You're kinda missing the point. Now-a-days, it -is- better to buy the best bike you can afford, all other things being equal, b/c "upgrading" isn't really that beneficial/cost effective. IMO, bikes are cheap for what you get - light weight, indexed shifting, clipless pedals, carbon forks. Anything that you're going to use -a lot- you should be willing to save up or budget around and get good equipment. IMO, at around $1200 bucks there's a price break, go under $1000 and there's some compromise, depending on the bike...ah, heck, make that under $800 and there's compromise if you get a year-end sale. Some might say build your own bike off ebay or shop for used bikes and know a diamond in the rough and you can do much better than that. However if your bike fits, and works fairly seamlessly with you, then you've got all you need. One need not try make up for ill fit, or lack of training with spending more money. You can get good to great performance at the $1000-1200 range. It's just a matter of getting over the 'sticker shock'. Remember you're paying 10K for your car, maybe even 20K, and it's just a box to get you to distant destinations quickly. A bike is an experience, a joy, even a way of life/life-saving device! -B |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:07:13 GMT, "Oz"
wrote: Howdy, I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. The higher priced Giant OCR bikes have 9-speed systems but use the same frame as the OCR-3. I love my bike but may want to upgrade the components in the future. Thanks, Rob It isn't hard to do. New shifters, cassette, and chain. Installation is pretty straightforward. If you do the work yourself and find good deals on the parts, $200-250 would get you into 9-speed 105, maybe Ultegra easily. Any reason that you want to upgrade? Or just looking ahead to when parts start wearing out, etc.? Others here obviously have different opinions than I do, but holding on to a frame you like and slowly moving into better components is a valid way to go. |
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Badger_South wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:03:45 GMT, "Oz" wrote: "Ken" wrote in message ... "Oz" wrote in news:5Bh5d.3242$%06.810 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. Upgrading is not hard, but it is not cheap and the performance gains are not large. You can save a lot of money by just buying a better bike to begin with. Yeah . . . . . . If I could have afforded a $2,000 bike I would have bought one. Kinda hard to justify a purchase like that with 4 kids to raise/feed/clothe. Then again, for my first bike I did not want to drop that kind of money. You're kinda missing the point. Now-a-days, it -is- better to buy the best bike you can afford, all other things being equal, b/c "upgrading" isn't really that beneficial/cost effective. In general, I'd agree--it's easier to shave the grams off the rider than the bike (and often cheaper). However: There are situations where "upgrading," or at least component changes, might result in a significantly different experience. My bike is otherwise perfect, but I am saving money for new cranks with 170mm arms instead of the 175mm. Having ridden the longer crankarms for a while now, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I didn't just prefer shorter crankarms to begin with (my first road bike--now in the process of being resurrected!--had 172.5mm cranks). The anticipated gains are pretty big: easier spinning and thus greater enjoyment through greater speed/efficiency. -Luigi -- www.livejournal.com/users/ouij Photos, Rants, Raves |
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"Dan Daniel" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:07:13 GMT, "Oz" wrote: Howdy, I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. The higher priced Giant OCR bikes have 9-speed systems but use the same frame as the OCR-3. I love my bike but may want to upgrade the components in the future. Thanks, Rob It isn't hard to do. New shifters, cassette, and chain. Installation is pretty straightforward. If you do the work yourself and find good deals on the parts, $200-250 would get you into 9-speed 105, maybe Ultegra easily. Any reason that you want to upgrade? Or just looking ahead to when parts start wearing out, etc.? Others here obviously have different opinions than I do, but holding on to a frame you like and slowly moving into better components is a valid way to go. Dan, That's it. I'm just thinking about the future. Thanks for the input because you seem to be about the only one to have read my post with an open mind and understood where I was coming from. Thanks, Rob |
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"Badger_South" wrote in message ... On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:03:45 GMT, "Oz" wrote: "Ken" wrote in message ... "Oz" wrote in news:5Bh5d.3242$%06.810 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: I am curious, how hard is it to upgrade the components on a Giant OCR-3? The current system is Shimano Sora 8-speed and I want to know how hard it would be to upgrade to a Shimano 9-speed system. Upgrading is not hard, but it is not cheap and the performance gains are not large. You can save a lot of money by just buying a better bike to begin with. Yeah . . . . . . If I could have afforded a $2,000 bike I would have bought one. Kinda hard to justify a purchase like that with 4 kids to raise/feed/clothe. Then again, for my first bike I did not want to drop that kind of money. You're kinda missing the point. Now-a-days, it -is- better to buy the best bike you can afford, all other things being equal, b/c "upgrading" isn't really that beneficial/cost effective. IMO, bikes are cheap for what you get - light weight, indexed shifting, clipless pedals, carbon forks. Anything that you're going to use -a lot- you should be willing to save up or budget around and get good equipment. IMO, at around $1200 bucks there's a price break, go under $1000 and there's some compromise, depending on the bike...ah, heck, make that under $800 and there's compromise if you get a year-end sale. Some might say build your own bike off ebay or shop for used bikes and know a diamond in the rough and you can do much better than that. However if your bike fits, and works fairly seamlessly with you, then you've got all you need. One need not try make up for ill fit, or lack of training with spending more money. You can get good to great performance at the $1000-1200 range. It's just a matter of getting over the 'sticker shock'. Remember you're paying 10K for your car, maybe even 20K, and it's just a box to get you to distant destinations quickly. A bike is an experience, a joy, even a way of life/life-saving device! -B Yeah, I suppose I could have waited until next year to get my bike. Then again, I would have missed out on 2 or 3 months worth of riding. The bike I have is fine for me for now. I was asking the question for general information for the future. I have noticed the tendency on this forum to take a simple question and blow it way out of purportion - perhaps even devolving into arguments and oportunities for people to get on their soapboxes and preach. I asked a fairly simple question that Dan Daniel didn't seem to have a problem answering. Perhaps, taking a simple question and using it as an opportunity for pontificating is a little overkill. I don't know. Back to lurker mode. Rob |
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"Dan Daniel" wrote
Any reason that you want to upgrade? Or just looking ahead to when parts start wearing out, etc.? Others here obviously have different opinions than I do, but holding on to a frame you like and slowly moving into better components is a valid way to go. If you ride enough, it's really the default route unless you sell the bike. Cassette and chain wear out pretty quickly, but brifters go too, eventually. Let's not forget chainrings, BB's, headsets and rims, and the recommendation of some to retire handlebars, seatposts, stems and cranks after significant mileage. What does that leave? This phenomenon is especially noticeable in mountain biking where things wear out faster and suffer a lot more crash damage. Replacing/upgrading is just the way it is. |
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