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Upgrading the gear system?
Hi, I've got an old Falcon Stealth mountain bike. I've been thinking of
investing in a new bike, as the gears are a bit rusty and won't go into all the gears properly. However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the frame - so now I'm thinking of just changing the gear system. How hard is this to do? I'm a newbie to fixing bikes, but I'm good with that kind of thing (ie. working with cars, building things, etc). If it's a viable thing to do, where's the best place to get the parts? Is the gear system designed specifically for a particular model of bike? Or are they quite generic? Would I be able to find the parts at a standard local bike shop? Thanks for any info, Dan. |
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Dan wrote:
Hi, I've got an old Falcon Stealth mountain bike. I've been thinking of investing in a new bike, as the gears are a bit rusty and won't go into all the gears properly. However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the frame - so now I'm thinking of just changing the gear system. How hard is this to do? I'm a newbie to fixing bikes, but I'm good with that kind of thing (ie. working with cars, building things, etc). If it's a viable thing to do, where's the best place to get the parts? Is the gear system designed specifically for a particular model of bike? Or are they quite generic? Would I be able to find the parts at a standard local bike shop? Thanks for any info, Dan. Parts are standard, but the expense will put you off. Buying a new drivetrain will cost you almost as much as replacing that Falcon of yours Considering the cost, why not get a better frame, wheels, brakes, &c at the same time as a new? -- www.livejournal.com/users/ouij Photos, Rants, Raves |
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Hi, I've got an old Falcon Stealth mountain bike. I've been thinking of
investing in a new bike, as the gears are a bit rusty and won't go into all the gears properly. However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the frame - so now I'm thinking of just changing the gear system. How hard is this to do? I'm a newbie to fixing bikes, but I'm good with that kind of thing (ie. working with cars, building things, etc). If it's a viable thing to do, where's the best place to get the parts? Is the gear system designed specifically for a particular model of bike? Or are they quite generic? Would I be able to find the parts at a standard local bike shop? Thanks for any info, Dan. Parts are standard, but the expense will put you off. Buying a new drivetrain will cost you almost as much as replacing that Falcon of yours Considering the cost, why not get a better frame, wheels, brakes, &c at the same time as a new? Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean buy all the bits and build it myself from scratch? Or just buy a new one anyway? A local bike shop has some special offers on at the moment, so I might just bite the bullet and buy a new one. Also, one more question - I remember someone telling me a while back that suspension on a bike wasn't a good thing, and was just a gimmick. Is this true, or did they not know what they were talking about? Thanks again, Dan. |
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Dan,
A complete new bike will not cost that much more than the parts you need to upgrade an older one yourself. IMHO, the best deal possible is to find a decent lightly-used bike at a reputable shop -- it will have been recently tuned up and checked out, and you can get some amazing bargains. I recently bought a road bike from the consignment shop down the road, and it basically worked out that the bike cost slightly *less* than the major component group and wheelset would have cost me, with the frame being a "freebie." Suspensions are very much a hot issue around here, and elsewhere in the cycling world. They do have their place in offroad (or rough road) terrain; where people disagree is on their utility for urban riding. Personally, I've found that the lighter weight and simplicity of a road bike make for what I consider a better ride, but it's very much a matter of personal preference. Looking from the "bang for your buck" angle, though, you'll find that it's probably more difficult to find a great deal on a used mountain bike. They're usually much more heavily worn, due to the types of terrain that even light recreational riders take them on. Just my $0.02, Lennon |
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"Dan" wrote ... Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean buy all the bits and build it myself from scratch? Or just buy a new one anyway? A local bike shop has some special offers on at the moment, so I might just bite the bullet and buy a new one. Also, one more question - I remember someone telling me a while back that suspension on a bike wasn't a good thing, and was just a gimmick. Is this true, or did they not know what they were talking about? Thanks again, Dan. If you're riding the bike on pavement or well graded dirt roads, suspension is kind of silly. For single track or really challenging jeep trails than get maintained every year or two whether they need it or not, a front suspension can make cycling a lot more enjoyable. For really challenging single track or downhill biking, a dual suspension bike (front and rear) can be a good thing to have. Keep in mind that good suspension systems that work well and don't weigh a ton are going to cost a lot of money to buy and maintain. -- mark |
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Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean buy all the bits and build it
myself from scratch? Or just buy a new one anyway? A local bike shop has some special offers on at the moment, so I might just bite the bullet and buy a new one. Also, one more question - I remember someone telling me a while back that suspension on a bike wasn't a good thing, and was just a gimmick. Is this true, or did they not know what they were talking about? Thanks again, Dan. If you're riding the bike on pavement or well graded dirt roads, suspension is kind of silly. For single track or really challenging jeep trails than get maintained every year or two whether they need it or not, a front suspension can make cycling a lot more enjoyable. For really challenging single track or downhill biking, a dual suspension bike (front and rear) can be a good thing to have. Keep in mind that good suspension systems that work well and don't weigh a ton are going to cost a lot of money to buy and maintain. -- mark It's generally road biking that I do anyway, so I'll probably go for a bike without suspension then. My girlfriend has just got a new bike with suspension (front and rear). I had a go on this last night, and being someone who likes to mess around trying to do tricks and stuff, I tried pulling a wheelie down the road. When pulling up on the front handlebars, as soon as the front suspension reached it's limit, there was a loud clunking sound before the front wheel actually lifted off the ground. No damage done, but the front suspension obviously wasn't designed for anything but riding with both wheels on the ground. After that, and hearing your responses, I think I'll definitely go for a bike without suspension. Thanks for your help, Dan. |
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Dan wrote:
Hi, I've got an old Falcon Stealth mountain bike. I've been thinking of investing in a new bike, as the gears are a bit rusty and won't go into all the gears properly. However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the frame - so now I'm thinking of just changing the gear system. How hard is this to do? I'm a newbie to fixing bikes, but I'm good with that kind of thing (ie. working with cars, building things, etc). If it's a viable thing to do, where's the best place to get the parts? Is the gear system designed specifically for a particular model of bike? Or are they quite generic? Would I be able to find the parts at a standard local bike shop? The economy really needs a shot in the arm, so I probably shouldn't discourage you getting a new bike. But: If there's a problem with shifting, it can probably be fixed lubing or replacing the shift cables, lubing or perhaps replacing the chain, and maybe replacing the rear cogs. I'd go to the library and take out a book on fixing bikes. I'd clean and lube the chain, and use the book to lube and adjust the derailleurs. If that didn't fix it, I'd install new, freshly lubed shift cables, again re-adjusting derailleurs. That will probably fix it. Cost will be less than $5 even if your book gets an overdue fine. Still shifts badly? Perhaps you let the chain get really bad. Try replacing it. That's another $10, plus a maybe $10 chain tool - and now you own that tool for the next time. If the new chain skips on the old rear cogs, get the bike shop to replace the cogs. Maybe $30? (I don't know, since I always do all my own work.) Bikes are almost endlessly repairable. You only need a new one if you really want a new one! Riding on the road? Forget the suspension. -- Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com. Substitute cc dot ysu dot edu] |
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Dan wrote:
When pulling up on the front handlebars, as soon as the front suspension reached it's limit, there was a loud clunking sound before the front wheel actually lifted off the ground. No damage done, but the front suspension obviously wasn't designed for anything but riding with both wheels on the ground. That's an indication that your GF's suspension is probably pretty "low end" and she'd likely be better off with a rigid fork or a whole new bike. Quality, functional suspension systems (front and rear) should easily be able to handle the type of use you describe. What you gain in comfort and capability, though, will cost you in terms of weight, money, and complexity. It all depends on what you want to do. Not all forks and shocks are the same. Suspension systems range from the barely functional found on Wal-Mart and Costco type bikes to fantistic, light, responsive, and expensive. You gotta do your homework. Talk to a reputable LBS. Better yet, talk to several. Good luck. Tom |
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