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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My
Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? Thanks, Art Harris |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
Art Harris wrote:
One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. Hmm, on my Zefal HP, I don't need to use a clamp-on cap. I have different length Zefal HP pumps for different bicycles, to avoid the necessity of a cap. The HP comes in four different sizes. "http://www.yellowjersey.org/hpx.html" Ouch..those have gotten expensive, thanks to the Republicans! |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 8:39 am, Art Harris wrote:
One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? Thanks, Art Harris I think a lot of "modern frames" can accommodate a pump peg. They just don't...which I find really irritating. Probably nothing on a frame has a higher benefit-to-cost ratio. Having to strap, clamp, duct-tape, glue, or whatever a frame pump to an otherwise beautiful bicycle is an aesthetic offensive of the highest order. I guess we're all just supposed to load up on CO2 and relegate our frame pumps to the equipment boneyard. I don't like the limitations of CO2. I know for some they make sense but for the vast majority of cyclists, a full sized frame pump would be a better choice. Frame builders should acknowledge this and provide proper pump pegs. |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 6:39*am, Art Harris wrote:
One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? Thanks, Art Harris Yep and most full sized frame pumps come in sizes to match you TT length. |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 7:55 am, wrote:
On Jun 5, 8:39 am, Art Harris wrote: One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? Thanks, Art Harris I think a lot of "modern frames" can accommodate a pump peg. They just don't...which I find really irritating. Probably nothing on a frame has a higher benefit-to-cost ratio. Having to strap, clamp, duct-tape, glue, or whatever a frame pump to an otherwise beautiful bicycle is an aesthetic offensive of the highest order. I guess we're all just supposed to load up on CO2 and relegate our frame pumps to the equipment boneyard. I don't like the limitations of CO2. I know for some they make sense but for the vast majority of cyclists, a full sized frame pump would be a better choice. Frame builders should acknowledge this and provide proper pump pegs. Even with a pump peg, I'd still use some velcro to hold the pump to the frame. I had a zefal pump that fitted nice and tight under the top tube with a peg. I didn't have anything else. I rode over some uneven train tracks and the pump fell off. Riders behind rode over it and the pump was toast. Since then, I always have a small piece of extra velcro holding the pump as prevention. Andres |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 9:55*am, wrote:
On Jun 5, 8:39 am, Art Harris wrote: One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? Thanks, Art Harris I think a lot of "modern frames" can accommodate a pump peg. *They just don't...which I find really irritating. *Probably nothing on a frame has a higher benefit-to-cost ratio. *Having to strap, clamp, duct-tape, glue, or whatever a frame pump to an otherwise beautiful bicycle is an aesthetic offensive of the highest order. I guess we're all just supposed to load up on CO2 and relegate our frame pumps to the equipment boneyard. *I don't like the limitations of CO2. *I know for some they make sense but for the vast majority of cyclists, a full sized frame pump would be a better choice. *Frame builders should acknowledge this and provide proper pump pegs.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Grow up and use C02 or, better yet, convert your bike into a boat anchor and take up shuffleboard. |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 11:27*am, Colin Campbell wrote:
Grow up and use C02 or, better yet, convert your bike into a boat anchor and take up shuffleboard. Exactly backward reasoning, in my opinion. Why would anyone who rides a bike (it's pretty good exercise, and uses a lot of calories, I've heard) want or need to use a CO2 cartridge system? With a pump, you get to use more of your own energy to compress air to fill your tire. *With a CO2 cartridge, you are using energy that was undoubtedly produced by burning hydrocarbons. CO2 may be faster, but there's a big price for that. *If you like paying it, go ahead. *But "real cyclists" are out there conserving the world's energy resources by using their own energy, and as a reward, they get to eat more goodies! Oh c'mon...let's not turn this into a referendum on the energy crisis. The only cyclists still using pumps are luddites and "retrogrouches". More power to 'em. CO2 is a modern solution for modern cyclists using modern frames. Pump pegs are at the right place in terms of the evolution of bicycles and equipement...obscure, "cute", and retro. If you want one on your frame, you SHOULD have to custom order it. They now belong in the "boneyard" along with gonfluers, hand-operated derailluers, bar-mounted bottle cages, and "standard reach" brakes. Yes, there is still a niche market for these things (ok, maybe not gonfluers) but they are not mainstream. Over many thousands of miles, I have used maybe 2 CO2 cartridges. If you take care of your tires, properly inflate them with a floor pump, etc. it isn't like you will need to blow through a couple hundred CO2 cartridges every month. |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 10:46*am, wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:27*am, Colin Campbell wrote: Grow up and use C02 or, better yet, convert your bike into a boat anchor and take up shuffleboard. Exactly backward reasoning, in my opinion. Why would anyone who rides a bike (it's pretty good exercise, and uses a lot of calories, I've heard) want or need to use a CO2 cartridge system? With a pump, you get to use more of your own energy to compress air to fill your tire. *With a CO2 cartridge, you are using energy that was undoubtedly produced by burning hydrocarbons. CO2 may be faster, but there's a big price for that. *If you like paying it, go ahead. *But "real cyclists" are out there conserving the world's energy resources by using their own energy, and as a reward, they get to eat more goodies! Oh c'mon...let's not turn this into a referendum on the energy crisis. The only cyclists still using pumps are luddites and "retrogrouches". More power to 'em. *CO2 is a modern solution for modern cyclists using modern frames. So tell me why I have to stop and top up you CO2ists at least once per week with my mini-pump? land*post-modern*otter |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 10:49*am, " wrote:
On Jun 5, 7:55 am, wrote: On Jun 5, 8:39 am, Art Harris wrote: One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? Thanks, Art Harris I think a lot of "modern frames" can accommodate a pump peg. *They just don't...which I find really irritating. *Probably nothing on a frame has a higher benefit-to-cost ratio. *Having to strap, clamp, duct-tape, glue, or whatever a frame pump to an otherwise beautiful bicycle is an aesthetic offensive of the highest order. I guess we're all just supposed to load up on CO2 and relegate our frame pumps to the equipment boneyard. *I don't like the limitations of CO2. *I know for some they make sense but for the vast majority of cyclists, a full sized frame pump would be a better choice. *Frame builders should acknowledge this and provide proper pump pegs. Even with a pump peg, I'd still use some velcro to hold the pump to the frame. I had a zefal pump that fitted nice and tight under the top tube with a peg. I didn't have anything else. I rode over some uneven train tracks and the pump fell off. Riders behind rode over it and the pump was toast. Since then, I always have a small piece of extra velcro holding the pump as prevention. Andres- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ================================================== ======================= It might have been repairable. Years ago I was at Pedlar Cycles in Toronto when a cyclist came in to get a new aluminium body Zefal HP pump. He had his with him. It had fallen off the bicycle and was run over by a car. He gave the pump to the shop. The shop gave the pump to me when I asked if I could have it. I took it home and removed the plunger assembly. Then I force a hardwood dowel down the pump body. Amazingly that pumped worked for many years afterwards. The shop thought it would have made great advertising for Zefal. Cheers from Peter |
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"Pump Peg" Still Usefull?
On Jun 5, 5:39*am, Art Harris wrote:
One of my classic steel road bikes has a pump peg on the head tube. My Zefal HP frame pump has a hole for a pump peg on one end, but plastic braces on the other end. I currently have the pump installed on the seat tube (the plastic braces press against the seat tube/down tube interface, and a clamp-on metal cap attached to the seat tube holds the other end. This works fine except that I can't mount a water bottle on the seat tube. (In the warm weather, I'd like to carry two water bottles.) I tried mounting the HP pump under the top tube using the pump peg on one end and the clamp-on cap on the other. Problem is that the brake cable guides on top of the top tube interfere with the clamp-on cap, and the clamp is also too big for the 1" top tube. So do modern frame pumps still accomodate a pump peg, or would the peg actually get in the way? Any suggestions how I can get a full size pump installed under the TT of this bike? As other people have implied, the problem is that your pump is too short. For many frames, the pump that fits along the seat tube is too short to run the entire length of the top tube. The plastic standoffs on the head end of a Zefal pump can fit in the top tube-seat tube junction while the handle end fits against the pump peg. If you don't have a pump peg, Zefal made a plastic peg that fit on with a hose-clamp style strap. These will fit under a brake cable better than the old metal clamp-on pump cap, although they are stylistically inelegant. A Zefal HPx (not HP) has an angled handle end that fits into acute angle tube junctions. This lets you run it along the seat tube without using a pump cap or peg. The really trick way of carrying a pump is to have your frame builder braze one or two pegs onto the left seatstay, and mounting the pump along that. Ben |
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