AP on demise of an elite police unit in Portland, Oregon.

Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable


Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.

Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful"..

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
..
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
..
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
..
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
..
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
..
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
..
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
..
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.


You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Historically, Tulsa and Oklahoma City had a violent crime rates nearly twice that of Portland. This is a bad year, obviously, and I haven't compared current statistics.

I have (counting) five shooting cases on my desk -- all since the pandemic, four in strip club parking lots. I represent an insurer that writes strip clubs. it used to be they just fought, but now its guns.

Like I said, this year is an outlier, and we've had Democrat-ish (its non-partisan) mayors for the last 40 years.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 3/10/2021 6:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Historically, Tulsa and Oklahoma City had a violent crime rates nearly twice that of Portland. This is a bad year, obviously, and I haven't compared current statistics.

I have (counting) five shooting cases on my desk -- all since the pandemic, four in strip club parking lots. I represent an insurer that writes strip clubs. it used to be they just fought, but now its guns.

Like I said, this year is an outlier, and we've had Democrat-ish (its non-partisan) mayors for the last 40 years.

-- Jay Beattie.






That's a very tough situation for a business owner:
https://apnews.com/4c7a568bfa07c98b90c0292c7e592923
(just down the road from here)

Similarly, an immigrant of my acquaintance, with his
extended family, literally built a restaurant (brick; took
almost two years) and successful business. After 20 years
of paying taxes and employing people, the permits were
yanked after a couple of thugs shot up the parking lot after
hours one night.

I expect a strip club manager to keep the customers' hands
off the dancers but not to search every car coming into the
parking lot, frisk the people inside or interrogate them.
That's an unreasonable standard.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:49:03 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Historically, Tulsa and Oklahoma City had a violent crime rates nearly twice that of Portland. This is a bad year, obviously, and I haven't compared current statistics.

I have (counting) five shooting cases on my desk -- all since the pandemic, four in strip club parking lots. I represent an insurer that writes strip clubs. it used to be they just fought, but now its guns.

Like I said, this year is an outlier, and we've had Democrat-ish (its non-partisan) mayors for the last 40 years.

-- Jay Beattie.






That's a very tough situation for a business owner:
https://apnews.com/4c7a568bfa07c98b90c0292c7e592923
(just down the road from here)

Similarly, an immigrant of my acquaintance, with his
extended family, literally built a restaurant (brick; took
almost two years) and successful business. After 20 years
of paying taxes and employing people, the permits were
yanked after a couple of thugs shot up the parking lot after
hours one night.

I expect a strip club manager to keep the customers' hands
off the dancers but not to search every car coming into the
parking lot, frisk the people inside or interrogate them.
That's an unreasonable standard.

Interesting laws you have there.
The local news, yesterday, had a report of a bloke that cut loose
inside a "beer bar", From memory killed one and wounded two or three.
The cops arrived and shot him, dead, and that was the end of the
story.

No claims against the Beer Bar owner, the other customers, or some guy
walking down the street. You shoot a gun and whatever happens is your
fault.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 3/10/2021 8:21 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:49:03 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Historically, Tulsa and Oklahoma City had a violent crime rates nearly twice that of Portland. This is a bad year, obviously, and I haven't compared current statistics.

I have (counting) five shooting cases on my desk -- all since the pandemic, four in strip club parking lots. I represent an insurer that writes strip clubs. it used to be they just fought, but now its guns.

Like I said, this year is an outlier, and we've had Democrat-ish (its non-partisan) mayors for the last 40 years.

-- Jay Beattie.






That's a very tough situation for a business owner:
https://apnews.com/4c7a568bfa07c98b90c0292c7e592923
(just down the road from here)

Similarly, an immigrant of my acquaintance, with his
extended family, literally built a restaurant (brick; took
almost two years) and successful business. After 20 years
of paying taxes and employing people, the permits were
yanked after a couple of thugs shot up the parking lot after
hours one night.

I expect a strip club manager to keep the customers' hands
off the dancers but not to search every car coming into the
parking lot, frisk the people inside or interrogate them.
That's an unreasonable standard.

Interesting laws you have there.
The local news, yesterday, had a report of a bloke that cut loose
inside a "beer bar", From memory killed one and wounded two or three.
The cops arrived and shot him, dead, and that was the end of the
story.

No claims against the Beer Bar owner, the other customers, or some guy
walking down the street. You shoot a gun and whatever happens is your
fault.

Well, around here the rule is anyone who wants a gun should be able to
get a gun. And if a bad guy pulls out a gun, a good guy with a gun is
supposed to immediately make him behave.

What could possibly go wrong with that plan?


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 21:37:53 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 3/10/2021 8:21 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:49:03 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/10/2021 6:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Historically, Tulsa and Oklahoma City had a violent crime rates nearly twice that of Portland. This is a bad year, obviously, and I haven't compared current statistics.

I have (counting) five shooting cases on my desk -- all since the pandemic, four in strip club parking lots. I represent an insurer that writes strip clubs. it used to be they just fought, but now its guns.

Like I said, this year is an outlier, and we've had Democrat-ish (its non-partisan) mayors for the last 40 years.

-- Jay Beattie.






That's a very tough situation for a business owner:
https://apnews.com/4c7a568bfa07c98b90c0292c7e592923
(just down the road from here)

Similarly, an immigrant of my acquaintance, with his
extended family, literally built a restaurant (brick; took
almost two years) and successful business. After 20 years
of paying taxes and employing people, the permits were
yanked after a couple of thugs shot up the parking lot after
hours one night.

I expect a strip club manager to keep the customers' hands
off the dancers but not to search every car coming into the
parking lot, frisk the people inside or interrogate them.
That's an unreasonable standard.

Interesting laws you have there.
The local news, yesterday, had a report of a bloke that cut loose
inside a "beer bar", From memory killed one and wounded two or three.
The cops arrived and shot him, dead, and that was the end of the
story.

No claims against the Beer Bar owner, the other customers, or some guy
walking down the street. You shoot a gun and whatever happens is your
fault.

Well, around here the rule is anyone who wants a gun should be able to
get a gun. And if a bad guy pulls out a gun, a good guy with a gun is
supposed to immediately make him behave.

What could possibly go wrong with that plan?

Here, of course, firearms are controlled, sort of. One thing, all
military type weapons are totally forbidden to be possessed by
civilians. So no yammering about Assault Rifles here. If they catch
you with one you WILL go to jail.

But brandish or fire a weapon if the police are present and the likely
result is that they will shoot you. Dead. I can't remember ever
reading the news about a shooting where the police were involved where
the perpetrator was only wounded.

And not a soul criticizes them.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:49:03 AM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 6:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 4:08 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2021 12:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
Lefties have no loyalty, but I'm not surprised Jay wants to make a runner for some place better run than Portland:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...force-n2585894

Portland had as many murders in 2020 as the entire country of Ireland will have in over thirty years. Portland in three years and a bit will have as many did of gunshot and explosive wounds as Northern Ireland had in thirty years of terrorist violence and reprisals. That's a pretty elevated level of violence in Portland, which Jay has held up to us as "mostly peaceful".

If my country were as "peaceful" as the city of Portland, the police commissioner would long since have kissed his job goodbye, and the government would have fallen to a no-confidence vote after about three months.

Andre Jute
Just being reasonable

Ireland has half the population of Chicago GMA (more than
City of Chicago but not that much more). Portland GMA is
about 1/2 of Ireland.
.
Okay, like for like. On a base of 100K of the population, how many would be murdered in Ireland and in Portland?
.
In Ireland per 100K population, 0.87 would be murdered (1918). https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate
.
In Portland per 100K population, 4 would be murdered. Portland is safer than only 2 percent of US cities.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or...me#description
.
The usual googlebugs can bus us more up to date numbers.
.
Not attacking or defending anyone here but those things
matter. Density probably as well.
.
Density for sure. You'd be amazed how fast rats turn viciously paranoid if they're crowded.

Personally, I think the number of firearms in circulation matters as well, but we can argue that case another day. Right now I'm arguing Donkey Party incompetence and irresponsibility.
.
Andre Jute
It's a slam-dunk case.

You could argue it, but to be fair you'd need a
not-dixiecrat-controlled major US city for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Historically, Tulsa and Oklahoma City had a violent crime rates nearly twice that of Portland. This is a bad year, obviously, and I haven't compared current statistics.

I have (counting) five shooting cases on my desk -- all since the pandemic, four in strip club parking lots. I represent an insurer that writes strip clubs. it used to be they just fought, but now its guns.

Like I said, this year is an outlier, and we've had Democrat-ish (its non-partisan) mayors for the last 40 years.

-- Jay Beattie.





That's a very tough situation for a business owner:
https://apnews.com/4c7a568bfa07c98b90c0292c7e592923
(just down the road from here)

Similarly, an immigrant of my acquaintance, with his
extended family, literally built a restaurant (brick; took
almost two years) and successful business. After 20 years
of paying taxes and employing people, the permits were
yanked after a couple of thugs shot up the parking lot after
hours one night.

I expect a strip club manager to keep the customers' hands
off the dancers but not to search every car coming into the
parking lot, frisk the people inside or interrogate them.
That's an unreasonable standard.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

That's like stoking vigilantism and then decrying it because the politicians don't have the balls to keep a proper police force recruited, staffed, supplied and motivated. What a shower of dialectical fools. -- AJ