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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
So if I ride my mt. bike on Sonora Pass in the Sierra (a motor vechicle
route just as the Boliva Highway is, which btw it is a major route for vehicular trafic in that country) and die than I died mt. biking. If you answer yes, than you are dumber than I think. because by that example as long as I ride a road bike on mt. biking trails, then I am road riding, right? Rick |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. road cyclist
Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:53:44 -0500, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...rist-Death.php LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. He was riding a mountain bike on a mountain road. What part of "mountain biking" don't you understand? Gee Mikey, riding a bicycle on an existing road used by motorized passenger vehicles and cargo trucks does a lot of additional damage to the environment, right? I suppose riding a touring bicycle would fine however, since bicycles sold as "mountain bikes" are inherently evil, even if ridden exclusively on improved roads with street tread tires. [End sarcasm] Unlike Mikey, I actually own a bicycle with knobby tires (Trek 6000) and have ridden it (barney like, but that is beside the point) on single-track. But then, Mikey lets his obsession with "mountain bikes" get in way of any kind of logical thought process. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
On Apr 26, 1:05*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:53:44 -0500, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...US-Tourist-Dea... LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. He was riding a mountain bike on a mountain road. What part of "mountain biking" don't you understand? Keep in mind Mike claims he wrote a book on mountain biking, he won't tell us the title of the book, but it probably has trails in it with names like I-80, US1, Route 322 and Main Street. |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:06:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Jensen wrote: On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...US-Tourist-Dea... LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text - Exactly. I'm with you on the small-trail riding, Mike, but c'mon...this is a motor vehicle roadway. Motor vehicles plunge to their deaths here too. So you think riding a mountain bike on a mountain road has nothing to do with mountain biking? You are weird. So what damage to the environment was he doing by riding a bike (mountain bike or whatever) on a road designed for motor vehicles? Would you have been happier if the unfortunate Mr Mitchell had fallen to his death whilst hiking? Get yourself a life and accept that the great outdoors is there for everyone to enjoy, whether that be on foot or (self powered) two wheels. Bruce Jensen -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
On Apr 26, 8:09*am, "Ronnie Guthrie"
wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:06:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Jensen wrote: On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...US-Tourist-Dea.... LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text - Exactly. *I'm with you on the small-trail riding, Mike, but c'mon...this is a motor vehicle roadway. *Motor vehicles plunge to their deaths here too. So you think riding a mountain bike on a mountain road has nothing to do with mountain biking? You are weird. So what damage to the environment was he doing by riding a bike (mountain bike or whatever) on a road designed for motor vehicles? *Would you have been happier if the unfortunate Mr Mitchell had fallen to his death whilst hiking? Get yourself a life and accept that the great outdoors is there for everyone to enjoy, whether that be on foot or (self powered) two wheels. The only time Mike gets outdoors is when he's walking from long-term parking to the terminal. |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:09:25 +0100, "Ronnie Guthrie"
wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:06:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Jensen wrote: On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...US-Tourist-Dea... LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text - Exactly. I'm with you on the small-trail riding, Mike, but c'mon...this is a motor vehicle roadway. Motor vehicles plunge to their deaths here too. So you think riding a mountain bike on a mountain road has nothing to do with mountain biking? You are weird. So what damage to the environment was he doing by riding a bike (mountain bike or whatever) on a road designed for motor vehicles? Obviously, he rode off-road. DUH! Would you have been happier if the unfortunate Mr Mitchell had fallen to his death whilst hiking? Get yourself a life and accept that the great outdoors is there for everyone to enjoy, whether that be on foot or (self powered) two wheels. It's there for everyone to enjoy, but only in an appropriate (low-impact) way. There is no reason for allowing bicycles off-road, where they destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat -- something I predict that you aren't honest enough to admit, but something that is obvious to everyone else. Bruce Jensen -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:48:16 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Apr 26, 8:09*am, "Ronnie Guthrie" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:06:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Jensen wrote: On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...US-Tourist-Dea... LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text - Exactly. *I'm with you on the small-trail riding, Mike, but c'mon...this is a motor vehicle roadway. *Motor vehicles plunge to their deaths here too. So you think riding a mountain bike on a mountain road has nothing to do with mountain biking? You are weird. So what damage to the environment was he doing by riding a bike (mountain bike or whatever) on a road designed for motor vehicles? *Would you have been happier if the unfortunate Mr Mitchell had fallen to his death whilst hiking? Get yourself a life and accept that the great outdoors is there for everyone to enjoy, whether that be on foot or (self powered) two wheels. The only time Mike gets outdoors is when he's walking from long-term parking to the terminal. We psychologists call that "Projection". Obviously, you have more familiarity with parking than I do, since I don't own a car and since you work for an airline. DUH! -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:31:54 GMT, wrote:
So if I ride my mt. bike on Sonora Pass in the Sierra (a motor vechicle route just as the Boliva Highway is, which btw it is a major route for vehicular trafic in that country) and die than I died mt. biking. Yes, and the sooner, the better. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. road cyclist
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:01:00 -0500, Tom Sherman
wrote: Mike Vandeman wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:53:44 -0500, Tom Sherman wrote: Mike Vandeman blathered: Evolution at work: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...rist-Death.php LA PAZ, Bolivia: A U.S. tourist has been killed after losing control of his mountain bike and plunging off a cliff while biking down Bolivia's treacherous "Highway of Death," rescue officials said Monday. Firefighter Ramiro Torres told The Associated Press that Kenneth Mitchell died Saturday afternoon after falling about 230 feet (70 meters). Officials at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz confirmed the 56-year-old Mitchell's death but declined to release his hometown. Mitchell was riding with one of several tourist agencies that offer guided trips down the mountain road, which is known for its breathtaking views, hairpin turns and steep drops. Bus accidents killed hundreds of Bolivians a year there until a new, paved highway was opened in 2007. Dude, the guy was cycling on a ROAD. That is NOT mountain biking. He was riding a mountain bike on a mountain road. What part of "mountain biking" don't you understand? Gee Mikey, riding a bicycle on an existing road used by motorized passenger vehicles and cargo trucks does a lot of additional damage to the environment, right? Yes, if you run over animals or plants or people. Mitchell, of course, rode off-road, as you do. I suppose riding a touring bicycle would fine however, since bicycles sold as "mountain bikes" are inherently evil, even if ridden exclusively on improved roads with street tread tires. [End sarcasm] Unlike Mikey, I actually own a bicycle with knobby tires (Trek 6000) and have ridden it (barney like, but that is beside the point) on single-track. But then, Mikey lets his obsession with "mountain bikes" get in way of any kind of logical thought process. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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