Saddles, seats and other bumfondlers

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:02:14 AM UTC+1, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Frank Krygowski:

ones with two moveable pads,



I still have one of those.



Sounded like a good idea to me - especially with the faux saddle horn

that this one featured. Gave the usual control when out of the saddle,

absolutely zero perinial contact.



Made my asshole bleed for a couple of days.



I'm guessing focused pressure where pressure shouldn't be focused with

no support.



OTOH, the guy who designed/marketed it was all bent out of shape when I

commented - said "You're the only one...".... which I've heard waaaaay

too many times in my life....



I used to work with the co-author of 'DeLong's Guide To Bicycles and

Bicycling". He was Fred DeLong's son and a mechanical engineer. His

take was that every "new" cycling item (aside from materials) has

already been tried and discarded back in cycling's heyday between the

period of horses and the period of automobiles.

--

Pete Cresswell

I liked the Cheeko90 seat, and I still do. But it really fits the meme of an old, proven idea recycled for bicycles. If you've ever seen an old-fashioned tractor seat, which was just a hollowed metal shape, sometimes perforated, you know where the Cheeko90 came from. It's the same thing, upholstered.. I used mine for a year or two but it was made with good-looking but fast-wearing materials, and it started to look a bit tatty, so on my next bike, which cost BMW money and looked like it, I replaced it with a Brooks that one could expect to look smart for longer. But if I could have a Cheeko90 beautifully covered in leather by Brooks, I'd pay Brooks money for in a flash, and give my Brooks B73 away. the Cheeko90 is on the bike illustrated at http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html and has even got a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Revla...80568688834060 but I don't see it for sale anywhere.

Andre Jute

On 4/2/2014 8:36 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:02:14 AM UTC+1, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Frank Krygowski:

ones with two moveable pads,



I still have one of those.



Sounded like a good idea to me - especially with the faux saddle horn

that this one featured. Gave the usual control when out of the saddle,

absolutely zero perinial contact.



Made my asshole bleed for a couple of days.



I'm guessing focused pressure where pressure shouldn't be focused with

no support.



OTOH, the guy who designed/marketed it was all bent out of shape when I

commented - said "You're the only one...".... which I've heard waaaaay

too many times in my life....



I used to work with the co-author of 'DeLong's Guide To Bicycles and

Bicycling". He was Fred DeLong's son and a mechanical engineer. His

take was that every "new" cycling item (aside from materials) has

already been tried and discarded back in cycling's heyday between the

period of horses and the period of automobiles.

--

Pete Cresswell

I liked the Cheeko90 seat, and I still do. But it really fits the meme of an old, proven idea recycled for bicycles. If you've ever seen an old-fashioned tractor seat, which was just a hollowed metal shape, sometimes perforated, you know where the Cheeko90 came from. It's the same thing, upholstered. I used mine for a year or two but it was made with good-looking but fast-wearing materials, and it started to look a bit tatty, so on my next bike, which cost BMW money and looked like it, I replaced it with a Brooks that one could expect to look smart for longer. But if I could have a Cheeko90 beautifully covered in leather by Brooks, I'd pay Brooks money for in a flash, and give my Brooks B73 away. the Cheeko90 is on the bike illustrated at http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html and has even got a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Revla...80568688834060 but I don't see it for sale anywhere.


Saddle choices are very subjective. After about 5 different ones over
the years I found this one:
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productD...Fa_m7AodKwYAyw

When the LBS guy recommended it I was skeptical. I would not have tried
it if he didn't offer me a 90 day trial. It's probably the most
comfortable saddle that I've tried. But I'm not sure I'd recommend this
to everyone. You can just give your own impressions and let the reader
decide g

http://goo.gl/I5C5dM

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:44:09 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
On 4/2/2014 8:36 AM, Andre Jute wrote:

I liked the Cheeko90 seat, and I still do. But it really fits the meme of an old, proven idea recycled for bicycles. If you've ever seen an old-fashioned tractor seat, which was just a hollowed metal shape, sometimes perforated, you know where the Cheeko90 came from. It's the same thing, upholstered. I used mine for a year or two but it was made with good-looking but fast-wearing materials, and it started to look a bit tatty, so on my next bike, which cost BMW money and looked like it, I replaced it with a Brooks that one could expect to look smart for longer. But if I could have a Cheeko90 beautifully covered in leather by Brooks, I'd pay Brooks money for in a flash, and give my Brooks B73 away. the Cheeko90 is on the bike illustrated at http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html and has even got a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Revla...80568688834060 but I don't see it for sale anywhere.





Saddle choices are very subjective. After about 5 different ones over

the years I found this one:

http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productD...Fa_m7AodKwYAyw



When the LBS guy recommended it I was skeptical. I would not have tried

it if he didn't offer me a 90 day trial. It's probably the most

comfortable saddle that I've tried. But I'm not sure I'd recommend this

to everyone. You can just give your own impressions and let the reader

decide g

That's a very well-known saddle for road bikes.

The Cheeko90 that I like is only suitable for people who sit upright on bikes with lazy angles, though the designer knew what he was doing when he made the rails long to help riders give steep sporting bikes a lazier angle by putting the seat well back.

But I wouldn't recommend any seat too strongly; like you, I think people are so different, they should find a dealer willing to let them exchange saddles/seats until they find one that works for their anatomy or prejudices or whatever.

I'll tell you this though; over here Terry seats are very highly rated, and fitted by quite a few upmarket bikes as standard -- and I've never sat on one that I didn't positively hate.

Horses for courses, saddles for bums.

Andre Jute

less you move Andre, the softer the use able saddle

Per Andre Jute:
the bike illustrated at http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html and has even got a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Revla...80568688834060 but I don't see it for sale anywhere.

You still have the Kranich, right?

Don't you have control issues out-of-the saddle with that saddle's lack
of a horn?
--
Pete Cresswell

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 7:25:50 PM UTC+1, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Andre Jute:

the bike illustrated at http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html and has even got a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Revla...80568688834060 but I don't see it for sale anywhere.



You still have the Kranich, right?



Don't you have control issues out-of-the saddle with that saddle's lack

of a horn?

--

Pete Cresswell

That's what I was saying earlier, Pete, when I got the smart new Kranich, instead of transferring the worn Cheeko90, I switched to a Brooks B73 which could be counted on to stay respectable for a long time.

But, anyhow, the Kranich is specifically designed to be pedaled under all conditions from the saddle. You never stand up out of the saddle. In addition, with the 500+% gearing range of the Rohloff gearbox you never need to anyway on any bike, you keep your seat and just gear down.

Andre Jute