Armstrong and Moser criticize Lance

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:54:04 GMT, Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
I think Eddy is referring to [...]

My speculation, from the "New virtual TdF record" thread:

I'm thinking it's an odd translation of Merckx using an obscure
expression to say that LANCE hardly ever races ("If I cherry-picked my
races like him" etc.). He has races trickle on his schedule like
droplets from a pipette.

I checked with Jeff, but it was Tim's piece and probably from French.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:32:51 -0500, "psycholist"
wrote:

Same here. I don't quite follow, either. Also, I thought Eddy and Lance
were buds. I know they had a brief falling-out when Eddy didn't like Lance
attacking Axel's lead at Amstel or Liege or one of those a couple years
back. But I thought they got beyond that.

I collect fountain pens and you have some you fill with medicine
droppers - a careful process where you are precisely filling or
placing the liquid. IF the quote is accurate, my guess that it is a
reference to someone that selects carefully where they make their
efforts and otherwise skips the event or makes a perfunctory effort
for training purposes.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:32:51 -0500, "psycholist"
wrote:

Same here. I don't quite follow, either. Also, I thought Eddy and Lance
were buds. I know they had a brief falling-out when Eddy didn't like Lance
attacking Axel's lead at Amstel or Liege or one of those a couple years
back. But I thought they got beyond that.

I collect fountain pens and you have some you fill with medicine
droppers - a careful process where you are precisely filling or
placing the liquid. IF the quote is accurate, my guess that it is a
reference to someone that selects carefully where they make their
efforts and otherwise skips the event or makes a perfunctory effort
for training purposes.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:03:44 GMT, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:


Moser's comments, on the other hand, are just spiteful.

I think the comments are fair. He might have prefered Poulidor to
Anquetil as well - bicycle racing didn't need 180 Anquetils on the
start line either. There were a lot of years I would have picked Kelly
as my favorite as all-around cyclist over the Tour favorites.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:03:44 GMT, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:


Moser's comments, on the other hand, are just spiteful.

I think the comments are fair. He might have prefered Poulidor to
Anquetil as well - bicycle racing didn't need 180 Anquetils on the
start line either. There were a lot of years I would have picked Kelly
as my favorite as all-around cyclist over the Tour favorites.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote in message ...
Confession...I'm too slow to get the medicine dropper reference and hope
that isn't a doping accusation. Please tell me how slow I am.



I interpet that as saying Armstrong doses his efforts in 'small' amounts,
i.e. drops out of a medicine dropper. While Eddy threw buckets of effort
around....

"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote in message ...
Confession...I'm too slow to get the medicine dropper reference and hope
that isn't a doping accusation. Please tell me how slow I am.



I interpet that as saying Armstrong doses his efforts in 'small' amounts,
i.e. drops out of a medicine dropper. While Eddy threw buckets of effort
around....

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:54:04 GMT, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:

On 11/18/2004 08:50 PM, in article ,
"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote:

Confession...I'm too slow to get the medicine dropper reference and hope
that isn't a doping accusation. Please tell me how slow I am.



I think Eddy is referring to the very scientific, exacting approach that
Lance takes to racing and winning the Tour. Even Lance has admitted that he
led the race (during road stages) for perhaps 20-minutes maximum.

I think eddy and Moser can say what the hell they want,they've won every race in the universe. It's not like they don't know what they're talking about.

I have always thought it's odd to just focus on one race, esepecially
when you know you can win others.I find it a very strange way to
approach a sport, in principle, making your whole season about one
race. Back in the day, merxck and moser had to do most of the races,
it was different. But really, mercxk was so strong I believe him when
he says he could have done th tour for 20 years if he'd saved up like
lance. The guy was so strong that sometimes it looked like he was
pulling the bike along as if it weren't going fast enough for him. As
for moser, he has an italian bias perhaps but a reasonable beef.I
think Cunego deserved to win, too, but he will one day.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:54:04 GMT, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:

On 11/18/2004 08:50 PM, in article ,
"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote:

Confession...I'm too slow to get the medicine dropper reference and hope
that isn't a doping accusation. Please tell me how slow I am.



I think Eddy is referring to the very scientific, exacting approach that
Lance takes to racing and winning the Tour. Even Lance has admitted that he
led the race (during road stages) for perhaps 20-minutes maximum.

I think eddy and Moser can say what the hell they want,they've won every race in the universe. It's not like they don't know what they're talking about.

I have always thought it's odd to just focus on one race, esepecially
when you know you can win others.I find it a very strange way to
approach a sport, in principle, making your whole season about one
race. Back in the day, merxck and moser had to do most of the races,
it was different. But really, mercxk was so strong I believe him when
he says he could have done th tour for 20 years if he'd saved up like
lance. The guy was so strong that sometimes it looked like he was
pulling the bike along as if it weren't going fast enough for him. As
for moser, he has an italian bias perhaps but a reasonable beef.I
think Cunego deserved to win, too, but he will one day.

"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote in message
...
Confession...I'm too slow to get the medicine dropper reference and hope
that isn't a doping accusation. Please tell me how slow I am.

He means that Lance is racing in drips and drops whereas in the old days you
raced every race.