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  #61  
Old July 19th 11, 06:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 7/18/2011 8:54 AM, Simon Lewis wrote:
writes:

Peter Cole wrote:

If done responsibly, mountain biking can be no more disruptive to man or
nature that hiking or kayaking, but it often doesn't play out that way.


I hate it when, while fly fishing in apparent seclusion, some garish and loud
group of white water thrill seekers goes floating past. The fish dart for cover
too.

Too bad I don't own the river.


Just as well you miserable arse. Why should others not enjoy the beauty
too.


Magic foam bicycle hats and segregated bicycle ghettos.

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  #62  
Old July 19th 11, 06:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 7/18/2011 5:29 PM, James wrote:
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Hell, it's annoying to catch up to another fisherman.
[...]


Catch and release, or Soylent Green for supper?

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  #63  
Old July 19th 11, 07:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 7/18/2011 9:57 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 17, 6:50 pm, wrote:
Mike Vandeman wrote:
BS. It's ALL dark side. There's NOTHING good about mountain biking,
even for the mountain bikers themselves. They are all PRETENDING to be
having fun, as they break bones or even DIE.

Religious fanaticism is the cause of many of the worlds problems. You
are right there with them.

I just tell the truth -- something you will never understand.

BS. Mountain bikers like to ride in natural areas, i.e., wildlife
habitat.

Yes, many of the fire trails I mountain bike on are surrounded by
nature. That is typical of fire trail location.

And a god reason to ban bikes from them.

^^^

Why bring religion into the discussion?

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Old July 19th 11, 07:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jul 19, 6:55*am, "Tm [email protected]" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/18/2011 8:54 AM, Simon Lewis wrote:


Just as well you miserable arse. Why should others not enjoy the beauty
too.


Magic foam bicycle hats and segregated bicycle ghettos.


Are they as good as foam tyres? g
  #65  
Old July 19th 11, 07:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 19/07/2011 3:58 PM, "T°m [email protected]" wrote:
On 7/18/2011 5:29 PM, James wrote:
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Hell, it's annoying to catch up to another fisherman.
[...]


Catch and release, or Soylent Green for supper?


Fur seal. I went clubbing last night.

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  #66  
Old July 19th 11, 07:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 19/07/2011 4:01 PM, "T°m [email protected]" wrote:
On 7/18/2011 9:57 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
And a god reason to ban bikes from them.

^^^

Why bring religion into the discussion?


I already did that one. Wake up, T°m!

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Old July 19th 11, 07:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 7/18/2011 9:58 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 17, 6:56 pm, "T°m [email protected]"""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/17/2011 8:50 PM, James wrote: Mike Vandeman wrote:
[...]
No one in their right mind wants to encounter a bike in the woods.


And neither do they want to encounter you.


Especially if Mikey V. is armed with a HANDSAW.

If
we wanted to be around bikes& other big, fast-moving pieces of
MACHINERY, we would stay in the ciity! DUH!


Most sane, sensible and reasonable folks, do not lump bicycles with "big
fast-moving pieces of MACHINERY."


You are obviously neither sane, nor sensible nor reasonable.


Stating the obvious.

You are right. So don't allow bikes off-road. QED


Corrected - Feel sorry for Mike V., who is obviously delusional and in
need of mental care and possibly a straight jacket.


"On March 21, 2011, a jury convicted defendant Michael Vandeman of In
June of 2009, the defendant blocked the path of a victim while he was
mountain biking on the East-West fire trail near U.C. Berkeley. The
defendant told the victim he was not allowed to ride his bike on the
trail, refused to move out of the way, and an argument ensued. The
defendant then removed a small screwdriver from his pocket and held it
at his side. After several minutes the defendant put the screwdriver
back in his pocket and the victim was able to push the defendant aside
and escape. In March of 2010, the defendant grabbed the arm of a
different victim who was riding his bike on the same trail. The
defendant was yelling about the fact that bikes are not allowed on the
trail. The biker was pulled to a stop but was able to get away without
falling off of his bike. Finally, in May of 2010, the defendant blocked
the path of another mountain biking victim on the same trail. The
defendant grabbed the victim's bike and tried to break the brake handles
and take off the front wheel. After the victim told him to stop,
defendant took a small screwdriver out of his pocket and showed it to
the victim. The victim was able to turn around and ride away. The
Prosecutor was DDA Chris Cavagnaro." -
http://www.alcoda.org/news/recent_verdicts.

Mikey V. is so delusional, he will not admit to being on probation.


Your libel is duly noted. I said I don't have a PO, liar.


So what was your sentence for being convicted of two (2) counts of
brandishing a deadly weapon and one (1) count of battery?

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  #68  
Old July 19th 11, 12:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jul 18, 11:28*pm, "Tm [email protected]" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/18/2011 9:58 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:



On Jul 17, 6:56 pm, "Tm [email protected]"""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" *wrote:
On 7/17/2011 8:50 PM, James wrote: *Mike Vandeman wrote:
[...]
No one in their right mind wants to encounter a bike in the woods.


And neither do they want to encounter you.


Especially if Mikey V. is armed with a HANDSAW.


If
we wanted to be around bikes& *other big, fast-moving pieces of
MACHINERY, we would stay in the ciity! DUH!


Most sane, sensible and reasonable folks, do not lump bicycles with "big
fast-moving pieces of MACHINERY."


You are obviously neither sane, nor sensible nor reasonable.


Stating the obvious.


You are right. So don't allow bikes off-road. QED


Corrected - Feel sorry for Mike V., who is obviously delusional and in
need of mental care and possibly a straight jacket.


"On March 21, 2011, a jury convicted defendant Michael Vandeman of In
June of 2009, the defendant blocked the path of a victim while he was
mountain biking on the East-West fire trail near U.C. Berkeley. The
defendant told the victim he was not allowed to ride his bike on the
trail, refused to move out of the way, and an argument ensued. The
defendant then removed a small screwdriver from his pocket and held it
at his side. After several minutes the defendant put the screwdriver
back in his pocket and the victim was able to push the defendant aside
and escape. In March of 2010, the defendant grabbed the arm of a
different victim who was riding his bike on the same trail. The
defendant was yelling about the fact that bikes are not allowed on the
trail. The biker was pulled to a stop but was able to get away without
falling off of his bike. Finally, in May of 2010, the defendant blocked
the path of another mountain biking victim on the same trail. The
defendant grabbed the victim's bike and tried to break the brake handles
and take off the front wheel. After the victim told him to stop,
defendant took a small screwdriver out of his pocket and showed it to
the victim. The victim was able to turn around and ride away. The
Prosecutor was DDA Chris Cavagnaro." -
http://www.alcoda.org/news/recent_verdicts.


That's not accurate. That's only the mountain bikers' version of
events.

Mikey V. is so delusional, he will not admit to being on probation.


Your libel is duly noted. I said I don't have a PO, liar.


So what was your sentence for being convicted of two (2) counts of
brandishing a deadly weapon and one (1) count of battery?


Since you claim to know everything, you should already know the
answer.

More important, when are you going to admit to LYING about me having a
PO, when you really didn't know whether I did or not? Do you know how
to tell when a mountain biker is lying? When their mouth is open.
  #69  
Old July 19th 11, 05:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jul 19, 6:47*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
snip everything


Can we get Mikey banned from RBR? The only reason he's here is because
Tom Sherman suggested using a bit of MTB technology to solve problems
related to SWB recumbent bicycles and tadpole style trikes. IOW the
discussion was initially about road vehicles adapting a bit of off-
road technology to solve a common problem when Mikey swooped in on his
anti-mountian bike tirade.
  #70  
Old July 20th 11, 01:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,alt.mountain-bike,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On 7/18/2011 9:57 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 17, 6:50 pm, wrote:
Mike Vandeman wrote:
[...]

Yes, many of the fire trails I mountain bike on are surrounded by
nature. That is typical of fire trail location.


And a god reason to ban bikes from them.[...]

^^^

Now Mikey V. is claiming to be a god?

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