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  #11  
Old February 10th 15, 06:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Zarniwoop
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 5:00:17 PM UTC-8, Blue Heeler wrote:
Darryl

I mentioned the Napier Deltic earlier - here is pictures of one and a
animated graphic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yftg5Ip0YlA

Noddy.

It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I seem
to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V engine.
They are no at "boxer"


3 crankshafts , 3 cylinder, 6 piston Diesel Engines

Another way to get the High compression to Ignite diesel Fuel
The turbo charger doesn't hurt Either .
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Old February 10th 15, 08:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Blue Heeler[_4_]
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

Andre Jute wrote:

Here we go again with the resident ignorant morons claiming knowledge
they do not, and cannot possibly, have because it is held by a
strictly limited class of persons.

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 1:00:17 AM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:

It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I
seem to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V
engine. They are no at "boxer"


Crap. You're an ignoramus and a liar. The only Porsche "180 degree V
engine" is the 12 cylinder in the 917, to correct your ignorance, and
you have never in your life seen a Porsche 917 engine "pulled down",
to call you on your lie.

Stop pretending about stuff you don't know **** about, sonny.

Andre Jute




Go **** your boot Jute liar.


1/. I never claimed anything regarding a 917 engine - that, as usual is
your fantasy (or more correctly, your lie). Perhaps more technically it
is also a straw man argument - something you specialise in.

2/. You are an established liar, the last time I bothered calling you
on a lie (in relation to your fanciful claims regarding ownership of a
Laverda jota when it was obvious you had never been in the same
postcode as a real one)


So what now jute liar - will your mental illness drive you to repost
your fanciful "10 things i wish were true about me" post - that was
sceamingly funny, but sad at the same time as it revealed the extent to
which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder casuses you to believe
your own fantastic lies.


  #13  
Old February 10th 15, 10:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:03:10 PM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Here we go again with the resident ignorant morons claiming knowledge
they do not, and cannot possibly, have because it is held by a
strictly limited class of persons.

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 1:00:17 AM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:

It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I
seem to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V
engine. They are no at "boxer"


Crap. You're an ignoramus and a liar. The only Porsche "180 degree V
engine" is the 12 cylinder in the 917, to correct your ignorance, and
you have never in your life seen a Porsche 917 engine "pulled down",
to call you on your lie.

Stop pretending about stuff you don't know **** about, sonny.

Andre Jute




Go **** your boot Jute liar.


1/. I never claimed anything regarding a 917 engine - that, as usual is
your fantasy (or more correctly, your lie). Perhaps more technically it
is also a straw man argument - something you specialise in.


Let's see what you said, sonny;

It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I
seem to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V
engine. They are no at "boxer"


Now, all the Porsche engines, except one, the 917, quite contrary to your claim are in fact boxer engines, or flat engines. The distinguishing mark of a boxer engine is that opposing cylinders are on different cranks of the crankshaft, whereas opposing cylinders of a flattened V engine are on the same crank; this has important consequences for the smoothness, size and weight of the engine. So you're either ignorant or lying in this regard.

That leaves only the Porsche 917 engine, which is the singe Porsche engine ever to be a flattened V engine. Clearly, to the gullible, this sentence of yours is designed to imply that you have seen one of those engines 'pulled down":
It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I
seem to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V
engine.


However, fewer than 60 chassis for 917 were built, and not all of those were built up into cars, and they were all racing cars in a formula that became obsolete almost 35 years ago. A provincial nobody like you never saw a 917 engine torn down.

This pretense of yours that you are some kind of a mechanical expert is of a piece with your earlier claim that you knew some anonymous person in the Australian outback with "a collection' of Laverda which he let a clown like you work on. Yeah, "a collection" of Laverda racers (in Australia already unlikely to vanishing point), and he let some yob off the street take a spanner to them. What sort of gullible morons do you take us for, sonny?

Andre Jute
When I stop smiling, somebody gets hurt. Funny thing, it is never me.
  #14  
Old February 10th 15, 10:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:03:10 PM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:

2/. You are an established liar,


Well, then you should prove I ever told a lie, sonny. You've been trying for two decades, since RAT, and all that has happened is that I proved you a liar, again and again, and publicly treat you with contempt, without a voice being raised in your defence because everyone except the congenital idiots who hate me more than you do can see that you're lying, and that I have your measure.

the last time I bothered calling you
on a lie (in relation to your fanciful claims regarding ownership of a
Laverda jota when it was obvious you had never been in the same
postcode as a real one)


Others can enjoy that entertaining thread he https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...k/4Wmxun0NWJYJ
They will notice that "Blue Heeler", aka the slimeball Peter Howard, still hasn't provided the various proofs I demanded of him. Readers may make up their own minds about who is a liar and who is a nobody trying to raise his profile by attacking his betters on the net.

So what now jute liar - will your mental illness drive you to repost
your fanciful "10 things i wish were true about me" post - that was
sceamingly funny, but sad at the same time as it revealed the extent to
which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder casuses you to believe
your own fantastic lies.


Give us a URL to this "10 things i wish were true about me" you claim I wrote so we can enjoy the joke too. Of course, the joke's likely to be on you again, "Blue Heeler". But then, as the great Lord Valve told us, it is the destiny of worthless little ******s like you that I should own them.

which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder


Yeah, it is quite understandable that a weed like you should hate everyone who isn't a weed. We feel for you, little Howie.

your own fantastic lies.


Yup. That's my business: I'm a novelist. And, unlike you, I'm very good at it. Also unlike crudely unlettered morons like you, I never confuse fiction with autobiography.

Andre Jute
Charisma is
  #15  
Old February 11th 15, 01:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.


The links...using a slanted search offer circuitous information, may cause confusion amungst the ignorant.

https://www.google.com/#q=porsche+V+...ration+engines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_engine
........................

Well. As the resident 917 expert. Let me say . Let me say yawl confused.
AFAIK, Porsche sells flat engine configurations with pistons NOT sharing the same journal.

However, I read information claiming a 917 FLAT 12 is a FLAT 12 but uses a V engine crank. You figure that...

Odd, when liking at the GooImages I posted on 917 blocks, there seems to be a very flat V shape served up but ? Porsche sez FLAT. Its their block.

FIND a front section drawing of a 917 FLAT 12 block

I know what a Can Am car is inside and a 917....356. I went into a Porsche dealer down the road n bumped into a 'CanAm' type car in the showroom.

I'm not current with auto design. It was a V-10 Porsche looking like a CanAm car, a Group 7 unlimited sports car.....having 2 seats.

Porscheista said the V I saw is a 'pig' from the higher center of motor weight, Porsche's inexperience at designing around this standard inconvenience. The device looked unbalanced.

And so the actor's crash.

I'm not a Porsche owner. Costs are too much to bear. Local racer suggest I go for a turbo boxer. Maybe a 356SC...whhhiiirrwhiiirrr. A 1000 hp Audi Quattro ....?

But, there are Porsches and then there are Porsches made with other types of motors.
  #16  
Old February 11th 15, 10:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Blue Heeler[_4_]
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Andre Jute snivelled, whined and moaned:


Go **** your boot Jute liar.


1/. I never claimed anything regarding a 917 engine - that, as
usual is your fantasy (or more correctly, your lie). Perhaps more
technically it is also a straw man argument - something you
specialise in.


Let's see what you said, sonny;


Yes you snivelling, lying troll, let's see what I wrote.


It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but
I seem to recall that they are accurately described as a 180
degree V engine. They are no at "boxer"


Now, all the Porsche engines, except one, the 917, quite contrary to
your claim are in fact boxer engines, or flat engines.




Jute liar, please show where there is any claim regarding any
particular mark of porsche engine. All typical "jutification" the
invention that takes th eplace of fact in your deranged and addled
brain.

distinguishing mark of a boxer engine is that opposing cylinders are
on different cranks of the crankshaft, whereas opposing cylinders of
a flattened V engine are on the same crank; this has important
consequences for the smoothness, size and weight of the engine. So
you're either ignorant or lying in this regard.

That leaves only the Porsche 917 engine, which is the singe Porsche
engine ever to be a flattened V engine. Clearly, to the gullible,
this sentence of yours is designed to imply that you have seen one of
those engines 'pulled down":
It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down,
but I seem to recall that they are accurately described as a
180 degree V engine.




Read what I wrote jute liar, instead of trying to lose what was said in
your own stinking stream of fantasy bull****.


However, fewer than 60 chassis for 917 were built, and not all of
those were built up into cars, and they were all racing cars in a
formula that became obsolete almost 35 years ago. A provincial nobody
like you never saw a 917 engine torn down.

This pretense of yours that you are some kind of a mechanical expert
is of a piece with your earlier claim that you knew some anonymous
person in the Australian outback with "a collection' of Laverda which
he let a clown like you work on. Yeah, "a collection" of Laverda
racers (in Australia already unlikely to vanishing point), and he let
some yob off the street take a spanner to them. What sort of gullible
morons do you take us for, sonny?



The only person here who I "take" for anything jute is you - lying,
self aggrandising, attention whoring, **** of a thing that you are.


And dear oh bloody dear Jute fruit - your lies become more florid as
time goes by don't they.


1/. nobody mentioend the outback

2/. nobody (except jute the liar) mentioned a collection, in fact, as I
said at the time, my friend owned exactly two Laverdas, a twin and a
triple. Of course that is exactly two more than you have ever owned
ridden or possibly even drooled over.

3/. you know absolutely nothing, and are far too stupid to enquire, as
to what mechanical skills I might possess - simply more straw man
grist, foor your own mill of lies and deception jute.


Andre Jute
When I stop smiling, somebody gets hurt. Funny thing, it is never me.



No brain, no pain is the only rational explanation jute, the lies you
tell would drive any normal person to a positive fit of mortification.

  #17  
Old February 11th 15, 10:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Blue Heeler[_4_]
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

Andre Jute wrote:

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:03:10 PM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:

2/. You are an established liar,


Well, then you should prove I ever told a lie, sonny.


No need little one, it is obvious that near every time you place
fingers on a keyboard you are lying Jute.


You've been
trying for two decades, since RAT, and all that has happened is that
I proved you a liar, again and again, and publicly treat you with
contempt, without a voice being raised in your defence because
everyone except the congenital idiots who hate me more than you do
can see that you're lying, and that I have your measure.



Another Jute lie, based on your fantastic need to pretend to be some
sort of an internet "hard man", snivelling little lying coward that you
are. You know very well that I am not Peter Howard, yet you persist in
trying to peddle that line of bull****.

(By the way Jute, that is another deliberate lie on your part)


the last time I bothered calling you
on a lie (in relation to your fanciful claims regarding ownership
of a Laverda jota when it was obvious you had never been in the same
postcode as a real one)


Others can enjoy that entertaining thread he
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...tech/laverda/r
ec.bicycles.tech/70MUhwdUrFk/4Wmxun0NWJYJ They will notice that "Blue
Heeler", aka the slimeball Peter Howard, still hasn't provided the
various proofs I demanded of him.


You get to demand nothing liar. Fool, trolling wannabe bully that you
are.


Readers may make up their own minds
about who is a liar and who is a nobody trying to raise his profile
by attacking his betters on the net.



Jute, most rational people came to that conclusion about you years ago.
Your problem is that by definition, just about anything that currently
has, or once had, a pulse is better than you.


So what now jute liar - will your mental illness drive you to repost
your fanciful "10 things i wish were true about me" post - that was
sceamingly funny, but sad at the same time as it revealed the
extent to which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder casuses you
to believe your own fantastic lies.


Give us a URL to this "10 things i wish were true about me" you claim
I wrote so we can enjoy the joke too. Of course, the joke's likely to
be on you again, "Blue Heeler". But then, as the great Lord Valve
told us, it is the destiny of worthless little ******s like you that
I should own them.



No Jute you were put in usenet to be a metaphoric chalk outline.

I did in fact slightly mis-remember your ridiculous and absurd little
fantasy, but then that is simply an indication of how little you, or
your feelings, mean to me.


In fact, the post in question was titled:- "Twenty five random things
about me" of course it would have been more truthfully titled "25
things Jute wishes were true about himself"

URL is at
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ch/FYn9rc6r_rA


As I said, the anguish you experienced at being shown for the liar you
are by someone who knows how to handle snivelling little trolls like
you resulted in you spewing the above adbsurd nonsense into the group,
driven by your narcissistic personality disorder combined with your
obvious soiciopathic tendancies.


However, it wasn't even original as you first posted the same nonsense
on 23 Aug 2012 - url below

http://www.kboards.com/index.php?topic=3048.900






which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder


Yeah, it is quite understandable that a weed like you should hate
everyone who isn't a weed. We feel for you, little Howie.


You know that I am not Peter Howard, that is the second time in 24
hours you have told that lie Jute.


I don't "hate' you jute, that would require far more effort than I
would ever put into something as insignificant as you.

I am amused by you jute, nothing more. And here I am with time on my
hands and you are stupid enough to want a second round. It will finish
just as badly for your ego as the first time. The funny thing is you
are smart enough to know that, but your mental illness will drive you
on regardless.



your own fantastic lies.


Yup. That's my business: I'm a novelist.


No, you are the author of formulaic, derivative crap.

Now that is your trade, and you make a living at it and I certainly do
not hold it against you, but there is nothing special about the dreck
you write Jute.

A colleague of mine had success some years back writing for Mills and
Boon, the editors encouraged her to continue but she found that the
time required interfered too greatly with her profession.

Still, she remains glad to this day that if she ever wants to leave her
profession, like you she will have a trade to fall back on.

And, unlike you, I'm very
good at it.



You are a competent, if somewhat dreary tradesman wordsmith Jute,
nothing more. And the best part is that you know that to be true.


Also unlike crudely unlettered morons like you, I never
confuse fiction with autobiography.


Well actually jute old fruit that is exactly what you did in your "25
things I wish were true about me" fantasy - an imagined life you wish
you had led.



  #18  
Old February 11th 15, 11:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B. Slocomb
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 02:54:03 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Zarniwoop considered Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:40:12
-0800 (PST) the perfect time to write:

On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 5:00:17 PM UTC-8, Blue Heeler wrote:
Darryl

I mentioned the Napier Deltic earlier - here is pictures of one and a
animated graphic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yftg5Ip0YlA

Noddy.

It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I seem
to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V engine.
They are no at "boxer"


3 crankshafts , 3 cylinder, 6 piston Diesel Engines

Another way to get the High compression to Ignite diesel Fuel
The turbo charger doesn't hurt Either .


Or the sleeve valvegear, which means you don't need valve cutouts in
the piston crowns like poppet valves do.


But I've overhauled a number of diesel engines that did not have
cutouts in the piston heads. see http://tinyurl.com/lldyk46
for one example.

And the other guy's point seems to be that high compression to ignite
fuel is somehow a problem.... funny, it wasn't back in 1897 3when Dr.
Diesel successfully tested the first working diesel cycle engine :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.
  #19  
Old February 11th 15, 02:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default opposed piston engines as opposed to horizontally opposed "boxer" engines.

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 1:00:17 AM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:

It's been a while since I saw a Porsche engine pulled down, but I seem
to recall that they are accurately described as a 180 degree V engine.
They are no at "boxer"


This is an outright lie. Everyone who isn't a mechanical idiot knows that Porsche engines meet all the qualifications for being "boxer" engines. There is only one Porsche flat engine *ever* which was a flattened V, the 917, and the chances that a provincial peasant like Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard ever saw one "torn down" is less than nil.

The rest of this thread is full of the smoke Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard tries to blow over this gross error.

Where's your apology for this gross error, Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard?

Or, if it is a deliberate lie, where is your retraction?

This isn't the first time this provincial ****ant peasant has tried to pose here as someone who knows something about mechanics.

Andre Jute
Now let us praise famous men (Ecclesiastes): Jobst would have enjoyed putting down this ignorant moron Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard
  #20  
Old February 11th 15, 04:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default The failed writer Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howardscrapes the bottom

Good heavens, now this little failed writer, Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard pretends he's a literary critic.

Listen Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard, I can understand that someone whose scribblings nobody wants to publish can be bitter about me being published by the most prestigious literary publishers everywhere, and the newspapers of record loving me ("Wild but exciting" -- New York Times), and my books commissioned before I take the cover off my keyboard, and visiting professorships, and all those women, and whatever else wriggles your wee dickie, but it doesn't get you anywhere. You don't look bigger or any prettier, you don't get to be more talented, by denigrating me; you just look like what you are, worthless, small, envious, nasty. The sooner you grasp that you're a nobody without any talent (a receding possibility of different talents -- perhaps net bullying? though you aren't much good at that either) and learn to live with it, the sooner you'll be happy. In any event, you can't be me; it requires brains, principles, a resolute character, huge amounts of backbreaking work, and the ability to attract and hold the best associates; you don't have any of those; so, however much you'd like to crawl up my arse, it's never going to happen.

Andre Jute

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 10:45:01 AM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:03:10 PM UTC, Blue Heeler wrote:

So what now jute liar - will your mental illness drive you to repost
your fanciful "10 things i wish were true about me" post - that was
sceamingly funny, but sad at the same time as it revealed the
extent to which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder casuses you
to believe your own fantastic lies.


Give us a URL to this "10 things i wish were true about me" you claim
I wrote so we can enjoy the joke too. Of course, the joke's likely to
be on you again, "Blue Heeler". But then, as the great Lord Valve
told us, it is the destiny of worthless little ******s like you that
I should own them.



No Jute you were put in usenet to be a metaphoric chalk outline.

I did in fact slightly mis-remember your ridiculous and absurd little
fantasy, but then that is simply an indication of how little you, or
your feelings, mean to me.


In fact, the post in question was titled:- "Twenty five random things
about me" of course it would have been more truthfully titled "25
things Jute wishes were true about himself"

URL is at
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ch/FYn9rc6r_rA


As I said, the anguish you experienced at being shown for the liar you
are by someone who knows how to handle snivelling little trolls like
you resulted in you spewing the above adbsurd nonsense into the group,
driven by your narcissistic personality disorder combined with your
obvious soiciopathic tendancies.


However, it wasn't even original as you first posted the same nonsense
on 23 Aug 2012 - url below

http://www.kboards.com/index.php?topic=3048.900

which your narcissistic, sociopathic disorder


Yeah, it is quite understandable that a weed like you should hate
everyone who isn't a weed. We feel for you, little Howie.


You know that I am not Peter Howard, that is the second time in 24
hours you have told that lie Jute.

I don't "hate' you jute, that would require far more effort than I
would ever put into something as insignificant as you.

I am amused by you jute, nothing more. And here I am with time on my
hands and you are stupid enough to want a second round. It will finish
just as badly for your ego as the first time. The funny thing is you
are smart enough to know that, but your mental illness will drive you
on regardless.

your own fantastic lies.


Yup. That's my business: I'm a novelist.


No, you are the author of formulaic, derivative crap.

Now that is your trade, and you make a living at it and I certainly do
not hold it against you, but there is nothing special about the dreck
you write Jute.

A colleague of mine had success some years back writing for Mills and
Boon, the editors encouraged her to continue but she found that the
time required interfered too greatly with her profession.


Well, if Mills & Boon is as high as you aspire, even in another of your anonymous "friends" supposed to give you credibility, what are you doing with me? I don't grub around at that end of the market. Are you quite sure you understand that there are different layers of literature, Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard?

Still, she remains glad to this day that if she ever wants to leave her
profession, like you she will have a trade to fall back on.

And, unlike you, I'm very
good at it.



You are a competent, if somewhat dreary tradesman wordsmith Jute,
nothing more. And the best part is that you know that to be true.


If you want to be a writer, Anonymous Blue Heeler/Mark Harriss/Peter Howard, it helps to have a feeling for the language. Instead of the clumsy, indeed, clumpingly dull and meaningless "tradesman", try "journeyman" as precise in meaning and more elegant too.

"And the best part is" just drips spite. It gives away so much more about you than it says about me.

You see what I mean when I say above that you'll never cut it. Instead of abusing me on the net, which wins you noting except further humiliation guaranteed further to undermine your already fragile self-esteem, you should have spent your time reading my handbooks for other writers. Maybe you could have caught a tip; many others did, and were published. Now it's probably too late.

Also unlike crudely unlettered morons like you, I never
confuse fiction with autobiography.


Well actually jute old fruit that is exactly what you did in your "25
things I wish were true about me" fantasy - an imagined life you wish
you had led.


There are 25 headline facts in that piece for you to disprove, enough to keep you busy for another twenty years of stalking me with no gain. That piece was designed to frustrate netstalkers just like you. Go for your life, sonny: you clearly have nothing better to do with it.
 




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