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Old May 12th 21, 12:13 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 12/05/21 7:22 am, Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 04:32:18 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


The nasal capsule is considerably expanded in Peeler, comprising a
fibrous sheath lined with cartilage rings.
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Old May 12th 21, 01:58 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 05/11/2021 11:52 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2021 18:40:32 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 06 May 2021 00:18:29 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 05/05/2021 19:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a
hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power
curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast. The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Engines that run stochiometric have to be all or nothing. Diesel are
smoothly limited. It ought to be possible to smooth limit stratified
petrol but I don't know from experience because mine just shifts up and
keeps going.

It must be possible, all it has to do is what you would do if you wanted
to hold it there - adjust how far you press the accelerator. I guess
that
gets more expensive as it would have to have a bit of intelligence to
monitor how much it had throttled it. But aren't most modern cars
already
throttle controlled through a circuit board?


Still easier to just cut the sparks instead of tweaking whats injected.


Easier yes, but I wouldn't have thought it was drastically easier,
especially since the engine is already computer monitored and controlled
for a variety of other things.


Limiters predated the widespread use of FI. While the industry has come
a long way in the past 30 years there still is a tendency to stick with
what worked in the past.

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Old May 12th 21, 08:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 10/05/2021 19:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 07 May 2021 11:54:14 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the
power curve. I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so
it can never go too fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power
curve anyway.


It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque.
When you change up, there is an inevitable drop in power so the
idea of revving beyond peak power is to get further up the curve in
the next gear.


Perhaps there should be more gears then.


Or a wider power band - eg, electric motor (*) - and one gear.

Modern turbocharged engines tend to be mapped to develop a plateau over
4500-6500rpm with minimal discernable peak. Add a 7 or 8 speed automatic
and the old lurch and grind is gone.

(*) Comparisons of torque between EV and ICE are irrelevant. EV tend to
be geared to the equivalent of 2nd gear (9-10mph/1000rpm) so have twice
the torque to replace 1st. Using power = torque x rpm it can been that
the knee point is about 2500rpm.
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Old May 12th 21, 09:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:22:45 +0100, TMS320, the notorious, troll-feeding
senile asshole, blathered again:


Perhaps there should be more gears then.


Or a wider power band - eg, electric motor (*) - and one gear.

Modern turbocharged engines tend to be mapped to develop a plateau over
4500-6500rpm with minimal discernable peak. Add a 7 or 8 speed automatic
and the old lurch and grind is gone.


LOL Another miserable senile ASSHOLE who is thankful that some filthy troll
keeps baiting him!
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Old May 12th 21, 09:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 11:10:43 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:



Peeler's skeleton comprises the skull, the notochord, and the caudal fin
rays.


Like I said: VERY impressive ...your idiocy that is! LOL


The lingual apparatus of Peeler is composed of a cartilage base bearing
two teeth-covered plates (dental plate) articulated with a series of
large cartilage shafts.


Poor idiotic cyclist! LOL
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Old May 12th 21, 09:27 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 11:13:04 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


The nasal capsule is considerably expanded in Peeler, comprising a
fibrous sheath lined with cartilage rings.


Doesn't it hurt to be as stupid as you are, you dumb gay cyclist? LOL
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Old May 12th 21, 09:29 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 18:58:50 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
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Limiters predated the widespread use of FI. While the industry has come
a long way in the past 30 years there still is a tendency to stick with
what worked in the past.


But not as much as you stick to the unwashed trolling ******'s cock,
lowbrowwoman! G
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Old May 12th 21, 11:16 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 12/05/21 8:25 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 11:10:43 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:



Peeler's skeleton comprises the skull, the notochord, and the caudal fin
rays.

Like I said: VERY impressive ...your idiocy that is! LOL


The lingual apparatus of Peeler is composed of a cartilage base bearing
two teeth-covered plates (dental plate) articulated with a series of
large cartilage shafts.


Poor idiotic cyclist! LOL

The role of the branchial arches in Peeler is highly speculative, as the
embryo Peeler undergoes a caudal shift of the posterior pharyngeal
pouches; thus, the branchial arches do not support gills.
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Old May 12th 21, 11:18 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 12/05/21 8:27 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 11:13:04 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


The nasal capsule is considerably expanded in Peeler, comprising a
fibrous sheath lined with cartilage rings.


Doesn't it hurt to be as stupid as you are, you dumb gay cyclist? LOL


While parts of Peeler's skull are thought to be homologous with a
lamprey's, it is thought to have very few homologous elements with jawed
vertebrates.
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Old May 12th 21, 11:19 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 12/05/21 8:29 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 18:58:50 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Limiters predated the widespread use of FI. While the industry has come
a long way in the past 30 years there still is a tendency to stick with
what worked in the past.


But not as much as you stick to the unwashed trolling ******'s cock,
lowbrowwoman! G


Very little is known about Peeler's reproduction. Obtaining embryos and
observing reproductive behaviour are difficult due to the deep-sea
habitat of him.
 




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