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Old July 26th 05, 05:34 PM
flo girbache
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Good day,
i found this bike advert. I need to know if really it's still for
sale,the last asking price for it and the current condition..Please let me
know your method of payment.I preffer paying via a cashier's check. Is this
your personal property? In terms of shipping i have an international
shipping agent that takes good care of my goods, he will be coming for the
pickup in your location.Let me know whats on your mind concerning this
enquiry..
Thanks.
Sam.
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Old July 26th 05, 06:12 PM
MattB
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flo girbache wrote:
Good day,
i found this bike advert. I need to know if really it's still for
sale,the last asking price for it and the current condition..Please let me
know your method of payment.I preffer paying via a cashier's check. Is this
your personal property? In terms of shipping i have an international
shipping agent that takes good care of my goods, he will be coming for the
pickup in your location.Let me know whats on your mind concerning this
enquiry..
Thanks.
Sam.
Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com



I think this must be an example of a scammer email. Thanks for the
head's up!

My wife got one just like this when posting a bike for sale recently. He
went on to ask if he could use a different payment method than specified
in the ad (I think he wanted to use his own home-made cashier's check).
When we said he could buy the bike, but had to use the specified method
of payment, he suddenly stopped emailing us. Crazy, eh?

Matt
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Old July 26th 05, 06:28 PM
Bill Sornson
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MattB wrote:
flo girbache wrote:
Good day,
i found this bike advert. I need to know if really it's still
for sale,the last asking price for it and the current
condition..Please let me know your method of payment.I preffer
paying via a cashier's check. Is this your personal property? In
terms of shipping i have an international shipping agent that takes
good care of my goods, he will be coming for the pickup in your
location.Let me know whats on your mind concerning this enquiry..
Thanks.
Sam.
Send instant messages to your online friends
http://au.messenger.yahoo.com


I think this must be an example of a scammer email. Thanks for the
head's up!

My wife got one just like this when posting a bike for sale recently.
He went on to ask if he could use a different payment method than
specified in the ad (I think he wanted to use his own home-made
cashier's check). When we said he could buy the bike, but had to use
the specified method of payment, he suddenly stopped emailing us.
Crazy, eh?


Crazy like a weasel!

:-D


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Old July 26th 05, 07:19 PM
Werehatrack
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:12:24 -0600, MattB
wrote:

flo girbache wrote:
Good day,
i found this bike advert. I need to know if really it's still for
sale,the last asking price for it and the current condition..Please let me
know your method of payment.I preffer paying via a cashier's check. Is this
your personal property? In terms of shipping i have an international
shipping agent that takes good care of my goods, he will be coming for the
pickup in your location.Let me know whats on your mind concerning this
enquiry..
Thanks.
Sam.
Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com



I think this must be an example of a scammer email. Thanks for the
head's up!

My wife got one just like this when posting a bike for sale recently. He
went on to ask if he could use a different payment method than specified
in the ad (I think he wanted to use his own home-made cashier's check).
When we said he could buy the bike, but had to use the specified method
of payment, he suddenly stopped emailing us. Crazy, eh?


I get about three or four fraud-intent whoesale inquiries a month for
the stuff on my website, and it's easy enough to spot them. My
suppliers get even more of these than I do, by at least two orders of
magnitude. In fact, my primary shirt supplier gets so many that he
often has one while I'm there picking up an order.

International fraud is at an all-time high. Cheap communications have
made it possible; gullibility, stupidity and ignorance make it
profitable, lack of enforcement in the originating nations makes it
quite safe for the perps, and greed drives *both* ends of the scam in
many cases.

(Bogus international cashier's checks have become enough of a problem
here in Houston that most banks will refuse to credit a deposit of one
until they have verified that the check has not only been confirmed by
the issuing bank, but that the issuing institution has physically
received it and the funds have been irrevocably transferred. Domestic
cashier's checks are met with nearly as much caution.)
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Old July 27th 05, 01:48 PM
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Question?

I get emails in which people ask me to respond if I ship to nigeria and
if I take credit cards. weird since I don't sell anything, but what are
these people fishing for?

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Old July 27th 05, 02:31 PM
David Damerell
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Quoting :
I get emails in which people ask me to respond if I ship to nigeria and
if I take credit cards. weird since I don't sell anything, but what are
these people fishing for?


They get the goods and they pay with someone else's credit card.
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Old July 27th 05, 02:57 PM
Tom Nakashima
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"David Damerell" wrote in message
...
Quoting :
I get emails in which people ask me to respond if I ship to nigeria and
if I take credit cards. weird since I don't sell anything, but what are
these people fishing for?


They get the goods and they pay with someone else's credit card.
--
David Damerell Distortion Field!
Today is Second Teleute, July.


There was a big scam going around a few months ago. I had a frame for sale
on the craigslist and was contacted by a person many times by email that
they would send me a check for $5,000, and I was to extract from that, the
cost of the frame and send the remaining balance back by Western Union. I
knew it was a scam and tried to get the person to send the check so I could
get a good look at it and hopes to turn this person in, but the check never
came.
-tom


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Old July 27th 05, 02:55 PM
Werehatrack
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On 27 Jul 2005 05:48:12 -0700, wrote:

Question?

I get emails in which people ask me to respond if I ship to nigeria and
if I take credit cards. weird since I don't sell anything, but what are
these people fishing for?


A sucker.

There are two main variants to their game.

In one, they place a large order for merchandise of an easily-sold
nature and "pay" for it with charges to credit cards which *appear* to
go through when initially submitted. The merchandise is delivered
either to an accomplice who shows up to collect it, or to a freight
forwarder who loads it into an air freight container and sends it on
before the charges can be reversed. Then, in a few days, the charges
are reversed, and by the banking laws in Nigeria, those reversals are
not subject to challenge.

In the second variant, the buyer insists that the seller accept
payment for the freight charges and pay the freight outbound.
Sometimes they even ask for payment to a "forwarding agent" who is
actually their own accomplice. Needless to say, the burned victim in
that case not only gets ripped off for the merchandise, but gets to
pay to have it delivered to the thief.

Once in a while, they will find a business run by someone gullible
enough to think it's OK to take an "international debit card"
transaction with a large cash-back component; the end result is the
same.

The fraudsters seem to be learning that the word is out about shipping
stuff to Nigeria. The last few such scam contacts have come from
email addresses in Israel, the Netherlands and the UAE, with
unspecified destinations...but they still flunked the basic test suite
of "Is it reasonable that my merchandise should be in demand there, is
there sufficient safety for me in acceptance of the payment method,
and can I afford the loss if this is a scam?" It only has to flunk
one of the three tests to keep me from responding.


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Old July 26th 05, 11:43 PM
GWood
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On a related but OT thread.....

Probably 75% of the 100 or so emails I get per day are ads for various off
shore pharmacies, software, knock-off watches and the like. Lots are now
trying to peddle me goods in Russian text, so I don't even know what they're
trying to sell me.

I have set up dozens of email filter rules via Outlook, so most get routed
to the bit bucket on the way in. Interesting that the spammers will go to
the effort of trying to mask the text in their mails (i.e. substituting "1"
for "i" and similar pattern matching) to try to fool the email filters. As
if someone (or company) who deliberately filters the original trash will
actually change their minds when the doctored email gets through the filter?

I'll be one happy guy when the big hand starts to slap these guys. What a
waste of oxygen.

"MattB" wrote in message
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I think this must be an example of a scammer email. Thanks for the
head's up!



 




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