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  #11  
Old May 2nd 08, 03:30 PM posted to misc.survivalism,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
DougC
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...

Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...


I've done this a lot, having a job that at times has me working night
shifts and getting off in the early morning hours.

Riding on wide roads with no cars and no noise is kind of interesting
the first few times, but I found the lack of scenery a bit monotonous.

Early Sunday mornings are the best time to go. And I tended to wait to
begin until an hour after the bars close.
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  #12  
Old May 2nd 08, 05:36 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:37:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB

All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.

Probably other people can see all those lights as well.



Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.


Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.


So thats why they get hit from the rear.

Fascinating

Gunner, ex-leo


  #13  
Old May 2nd 08, 05:36 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
Gunner[_2_]
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB
All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.
Probably other people can see all those lights as well.

Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.


Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.


Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
of getting involved in a car accident.



So thats why they get hit from the rear, while parked on the shoulder.

Fascinating

  #14  
Old May 2nd 08, 05:38 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
Gunner[_2_]
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB
All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.
Probably other people can see all those lights as well.

Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.


Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.


Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
of getting involved in a car accident.



I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.

Wouldnt that be correct? They spend far far more time on the road
than anyone

Gunner
  #15  
Old May 2nd 08, 06:50 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
ComandanteBanana
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

On May 2, 12:38*pm, Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:





Rod Speed wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:


ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).


See:
* * * *http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
* * * *http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
* * * *http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html


JonB
All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.
Probably other people can see all those lights as well.


Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.


Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?


Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.


Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.


Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
of getting involved in a car accident.


I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.

Wouldnt that be correct? * They spend far far more time on the road
than anyone

Gunner- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Truckers are the best (and perhaps only good) drivers in America. They
undergo the training we all should be having.
  #16  
Old May 2nd 08, 07:42 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
Jon Bendtsen
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:


[cuuuuut]

I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.

Wouldnt that be correct? They spend far far more time on the road
than anyone


Truckers dont die because they drive BIG trucks. They only harm
other people, no harm comes to them. Police cars are small cars
compared to trucks.



JonB
  #17  
Old May 2nd 08, 09:02 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
Rod Speed
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even
bought a vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV
drivers chatting on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB
All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.
Probably other people can see all those lights as well.

Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back
window of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.

Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal
speed limit.


Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
of getting involved in a car accident.



I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.


Nope, because they are inside vehicles which have a hell of a lot higher weight that
what they run into, and are way higher up than the poor sucker in the car is too.

Wouldnt that be correct?


Nope.

They spend far far more time on the road than anyone


But there is much more involved than just time on the road.



  #18  
Old May 2nd 08, 09:04 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
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Default Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:37:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought
a vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers
chatting on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB

All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.

Probably other people can see all those lights as well.


Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back
window of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.


Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.


So thats why they get hit from the rear.


They dont always get hit from the rear.

And those that do get hit when the car is stationary, are usually
OUTSIDE the car, in one of the most dangerous situations around,
in which they are in FAR more often than the average car driver is too.

Fascinating


Pathetic, actually.

Gunner, ex-leo


Just ex.


  #19  
Old May 2nd 08, 09:29 PM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
Bob Brock
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On Sat, 3 May 2008 06:04:54 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:37:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
here)...
Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought
a vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers
chatting on the cell
He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB

All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
need is that blinking vest. I guess.

Probably other people can see all those lights as well.


Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back
window of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.

Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.


So thats why they get hit from the rear.


They dont always get hit from the rear.

And those that do get hit when the car is stationary, are usually
OUTSIDE the car, in one of the most dangerous situations around,
in which they are in FAR more often than the average car driver is too.

Fascinating


Pathetic, actually.

Gunner, ex-leo


Just ex.


I wouldn't put too much stock in his ex-LEO claim.
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Old May 3rd 08, 04:08 AM posted to misc.survivalism,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,aus.bicycle,dc.biking
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ComandanteBanana wrote:
[...]

Truckers are the best (and perhaps only good) drivers in America. They
undergo the training we all should be having.


That includes following at a distance of less than 10 feet at 70 mph?
Not slowing down when the fog limits visibility so much one can barely
see the overpasses when going under them?

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