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Chicago: Minus one cyclist
https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. |
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On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:15:51 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. It seems to me that says something about the cyclists that got their wheel caught in the track... Perhaps a short class on "how to ride a bicycle" should be a part of every bicycle purchase? -- Cheers John B. |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:15:51 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. "Milwaukee Hop officials lead bike ride down the rails" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48on9GjIGk0 (2:28) Or, buy a bicycle with super fat tires that won't get caught in the tracks: https://www.google.com/search?q=fat+tire+bike&tbm=isch So how to I ride though this intersection, being careful to cross each rail at a 90 degree (perpendicular) angle? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_streetcar_system#/media/File:Toronto_Streetcar_Grand_Junction.jpg -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 9/23/2018 8:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. Street cars puzzle me. They have much higher first cost than buses, they have much less route flexibility than buses. Their tracks introduce new hazards. Sure, they're trendier, and fashion is ridiculously powerful, but buses could be made just as fashionable. https://humantransit.org/2009/07/str...ent-truth.html -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:15:51 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. "Milwaukee Hop officials lead bike ride down the rails" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48on9GjIGk0 (2:28) Or, buy a bicycle with super fat tires that won't get caught in the tracks: https://www.google.com/search?q=fat+tire+bike&tbm=isch So how to I ride though this intersection, being careful to cross each rail at a 90 degree (perpendicular) angle? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_streetcar_system#/media/File:Toronto_Streetcar_Grand_Junction.jpg Apparently John has this course you can take... -- duane |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 4:33:53 PM UTC-7, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Surely that would have saved his life! |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 7:48:35 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/23/2018 8:15 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. Street cars puzzle me. They have much higher first cost than buses, they have much less route flexibility than buses. Their tracks introduce new hazards. Sure, they're trendier, and fashion is ridiculously powerful, but buses could be made just as fashionable. https://humantransit.org/2009/07/str...ent-truth.html -- - Frank Krygowski Buses tend to run through residential neighborhoods. The roads in these areas ARE NOT constructed for the loads that buses put on them. So maintenance costs of the roads along bus routes usually are much higher than normal residential streets. While streetcars have a higher initial cost the costs of rail repairs are pretty low. They completely repaved a road three blocks away from me. Then during the repairs to an adjoining main road all of the traffic was taking that repaved road and after two years it is completely broken up with potholes and almost gravel over its entire length of three blocks. Welcome to the real world. |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:01:59 -0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:15:51 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 9/23/2018 6:33 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:14:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://maggionews.com/1-man-killed-...ings-saturday/ But he probably wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Cheers John B. Bring your 4" tires to ride in Milwaukee: https://fox6now.com/2018/09/23/cycli...kee-streetcar/ And a helmet to keep your head out of the track. "Milwaukee Hop officials lead bike ride down the rails" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48on9GjIGk0 (2:28) Or, buy a bicycle with super fat tires that won't get caught in the tracks: https://www.google.com/search?q=fat+tire+bike&tbm=isch So how do I ride though this intersection, being careful to cross each rail at a 90 degree (perpendicular) angle? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_streetcar_system#/media/File:Toronto_Streetcar_Grand_Junction.jpg Apparently John has this course you can take... In Santa Cruz, there's a place where the Big Trees railroad tracks crosses Hwy 9 at a 45 degree angle, on a downhill: https://goo.gl/maps/VeDNDkkNnYB2 I recall that there was once a sign suggesting that cyclists cross the rails by either walking across or crossing at a right angle. There have been a few cycling accidents at this crossing over the years, including me, twice. The problem is that crossing perpendicular to the tracks doesn't work. In order to do that on the downhill, I had to turn sharply to the left, which requires leaning the bike over. If I ride all the way to the right, and start my turn roughly in the middle of the lane, I might be able to cross safely and straighten out near the left side of the lane. The problem is that if I don't do it perfectly, I could easily end up straightening out into opposing traffic. As soon as my rear tire hit the smooth steel rails, my bicycle slid sideways while leaning into the turn, and down I went. It wasn't a smooth fall, but rather two lurches sideways as each tire lost traction on the tracks. I thought that since I knew about the risk in advance, my reaction time would be sufficient to prevent falling over, but that was wrong, twice. My reward was the usual road rash and a twisted left ankle. My bicycle (Miyata 610) fared better with a broken cheap resin pedal and a torn rear saddle bag. Umm... twice. I consoled myself by suggesting that it could have been worse. The math is easy enough. The wheelbase on my bicycle is about 1 meter. The railroad track is 1.4 meters wide. The road is about 3.5 meters wide. I would need to ride perpendicular to the rails turning 45 degrees where the front wheel hits the right rail, and come out of the turn where my rear wheel leaves the left rail. Total distance traveled is: 1.0 + 1.4 + 1.0 = 3.4 meters. At 45 degrees, the minimum road width that this could be accomplished would be the aforementioned length of the rail crossing, plus twice the turning radius, which I would guess would be no less than 0.5 meters. Therefore the road width required would be: (0.707 * 3.4) + (2 * 0.5) = 4.4 meters With a 3.5 meter wide road, it can't be done without riding into opposing traffic. Drivel: I wonder if they're going to bury the tracks? https://gogocharters.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/street-car-intersection-1.jpg -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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