SUV Protest

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:40 -0600, , Robert Uhl
wrote:

Ambulances cost money.

I live about six blocks from a hospital. Does it make more sense to
drive the five minutes thereto or wait around for an ambulance which
will take longer to arrive?

TAXI
--
zk

gds wrote:
While SUV's get really bad press I imagine that in fact SUV's and pick
ups are the vehicles of choice for many environmentalists.
While tooling around central Paris or even downtown Chicago in an 6 mpg
Hummer is pretty sick, I think that many who consider themselves
environmentalists are involved in the types of outdoor activites for
which high clearance and 4wd are pretty important.
For myself I do a lot of back country hiking and rock climbing. Many of
the mountain roads that I use would be unpassable in a car. I will tell
you that my SUV does a lot less damage to roads and is a lot quieter
than the more fuel efficinet ATV's that wreak havoc in some of these
areas.

High clearance? Maybe. 4wd? I doubt it.

In 30-odd years of runnin' around the southern Appalachians (all the a's
are soft, thank you!), almost every time I hike up a trail, or wade down
a creek, and get to the point I think, "Nobody could possibly drive back
this far," there's a vehicle around the next bend. 2/3 of these are 20
year old Chevy or Ford sedans, and the rest are pickup trucks (at least
10 years old). The drivers don't go bouncing them around like they're
monster trucks. They probably contribute to erosion around the rocks
that are bigger than a foot tall by driving around them, but they get
plain old cars further back in the hills than a flatlander could believe.

The natural habitat of an SUV is a parking lot or freeway, when you can
tell THOSE two apart.

Pat

wrote:
As a conservative estimate, I'd say 99% of SUV owners have no practical
need for the monstrosities. The trend is driven by a combination of
conspicuous consumption and stupidity.

- Frank Krygowski

A woman I know drives one of these things because she needs to haul
tents and stuff in it. Once a year. *Once* a year.

Yeah, real good reason to burn excessive amounts of fuel the rest of the
time...

OTOH, I know a disabled woman who drives one because it's the only
vehicle she can get into unassisted, plus there's room for her power
chair. Since she lives alone, the "unassisted" part is pretty important.

--

the black rose
Research Associate in the Field of Child Development and Human
Relations
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2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos

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Zoot Katz wrote:

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:40 -0600, , Robert Uhl
wrote:


Ambulances cost money.

I live about six blocks from a hospital. Does it make more sense to
drive the five minutes thereto or wait around for an ambulance which
will take longer to arrive?


TAXI

*SPLUTTER*

Where do you live that a taxi arrives faster than an ambulance? Cuz I
can tell you, that would be nowhere near where I live.

--

the black rose
Research Associate in the Field of Child Development and Human
Relations
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2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos

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Zoot Katz wrote:

14 Sep 2005 09:31:21 -0700,
.com, "Fritz M"
wrote:


Claire Petersky wrote:


http://www.capsteps.com/sounds/suv.ra (requires Real Audio)

That's pretty good :-)

Here's another catchy tune:

Oh oh, you and me
In our sport utility vehicles
Cruisin to 7-11
For a bag of Frito Lays

Oh oh, you and me
In our sport utility vehicles
We'll slam into four wheel drive
And pick up a dozen eggs

QT video clip at:

http://www.bigidea.com/videos/veggie...022/clip04.htm


Here's the opening tune from the "Rocky Dino Opera"
http://bikesexual.org/dinos/opera.html

A MIGHTY FORTRESS
Key: G Tune: "Luther's Hymn"

A mighty fortress is my car,
My great strong box of steel,
My shiny sporty four-by-four,
My urban sex appeal.
This safe on wheels may crash
And small cars I may smash,
Some slobs may be dispatched
But I shall not be scratched,
My sport ute is my fortress.

The world can see how cool I am,
How excellent is my life-style.
All tongues proclaim the brands I buy
My choices are such high style.
Now get out of my way,
Bike bums in spandex gay
And stupid old ladies!
Leave the road to me
In my shiny fossil fortress!

© 2001-2004 Lee Henderson.
Licence granted for free performance and reproduction for study.

Hehe. Applies more to a Hummer though, dontcha think?

--

the black rose
Research Associate in the Field of Child Development and Human
Relations
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos

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the black rose wrote:
A woman I know drives one of these things because she needs to haul
tents and stuff in it. Once a year. *Once* a year.

Yeah, real good reason to burn excessive amounts of fuel the rest of the
time...

Hmm... At what point does occasional use (e.g., carrying gear for camping
trips) become a "real good reason" to own a bigger vehicle than you need
for everyday use?

Would she need to go camping twice a year? once a quarter? once a month?
twice a month? every weekend?
--
Darin McGrew, , http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
Web Design Group, , http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

"There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't."

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:58:19 GMT,
, the black rose
wrote:

Zoot Katz wrote:

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:40 -0600, , Robert Uhl
wrote:


Ambulances cost money.

I live about six blocks from a hospital. Does it make more sense to
drive the five minutes thereto or wait around for an ambulance which
will take longer to arrive?


TAXI

*SPLUTTER*

Where do you live that a taxi arrives faster than an ambulance? Cuz I
can tell you, that would be nowhere near where I live.

A map will tell you that.

The only ambulance I ever rode in took almost an hour to arrive but a
taxi couldn't have legally gotten there. Had I been only six blocks
from the hospital, I'd have crawled.

I've seldom waited more than 10 minutes for a taxi. They're usually
here in five minutes.

How much quicker is driving going to be after you figure in the time
it takes to park at the hospital?
--
zk

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:59:25 GMT,
, the black rose
wrote:

Here's the opening tune from the "Rocky Dino Opera"
http://bikesexual.org/dinos/opera.html

A MIGHTY FORTRESS
Key: G Tune: "Luther's Hymn"

A mighty fortress is my car,
My great strong box of steel,
My shiny sporty four-by-four,
My urban sex appeal.
This safe on wheels may crash
And small cars I may smash,
Some slobs may be dispatched
But I shall not be scratched,
My sport ute is my fortress.

The world can see how cool I am,
How excellent is my life-style.
All tongues proclaim the brands I buy
My choices are such high style.
Now get out of my way,
Bike bums in spandex gay
And stupid old ladies!
Leave the road to me
In my shiny fossil fortress!

© 2001-2004 Lee Henderson.
Licence granted for free performance and reproduction for study.

Hehe. Applies more to a Hummer though, dontcha think?

A scud's a scud and they all stink.

The vehicle in the opera is a Ford Extinction SUV.

The entire set, cast, props and lighting is transported by bicycles.
--
zk

Zoot Katz wrote:
How much quicker is driving going to be after you figure in the time
it takes to park at the hospital?

For heaven's sake, in a real emergency, one doesn't bother to park!

--

the black rose
Research Associate in the Field of Child Development and Human
Relations
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos

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Zoot Katz writes:

I live about six blocks from a hospital. Does it make more sense to
drive the five minutes thereto or wait around for an ambulance which
will take longer to arrive?

TAXI

If you're lucky you can share a ride with a doctor trying to get to
the hospital after having his SUV's tires flattened.

--kyler