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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
Andrew Muzi wrote:
However, I stand by my statement that the free-market has failed, since there is no real free-market health care system in the US. "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote Seeing as it's never really been tried, except perhaps many moons ago when health care was nowhere near as complex and expensive as it is now, Joe the Aroma WHO? wrote: I think it's hasty to make that conclusion. "Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote My point exactly. The FREE MARKET is failing to provide free market health care in the U.S. Edward Dolan wrote: Mr. Sherman is quite corred on this matter of health care in the US. The present system is broken and cannot be fixed except by a single payer system (the government). Such a health care system will be like the public school system. It is not socialism, but simply good common sense. It ought to be financed via higher progressive income taxes on the rich and/or a value added tax on those who like to spend money on luxuries. A total no-brainer! You have obviously not thought that through to its logical conclusion My logical conclusion was that I could not afford to get treatment for a chronic health problem, since my portion of the expenses was more than my discretionary income - and yes, I am "covered" under a employer provided "health plan". I really need to start trying to get a job in Canada. More than 50% of recent personal bankruptcies in the US are from people who got sick, lost their jobs and/or health coverage or exceeded the coverage limits, and exhausted their financial assets on medical bills. Great system, eh? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
donquijote1954 who? wrote:
... OK, with such a motivation (warning the novices against you), I ask you (I hope there are many witnesses out there), WHAT THE HELL IS THE SOLUTION, so we can go from 1% to, say, 30% ridership?... Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote: Google "Hubbert's Peak. Yeah I remember when "We're gonna run out in 1975!!" was all the rage. Back when "New Ice Age" sold newspapers, long before the bogus "Warming" Whatever. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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A Muzi wrote:
donquijote1954 who? wrote: ... OK, with such a motivation (warning the novices against you), I ask you (I hope there are many witnesses out there), WHAT THE HELL IS THE SOLUTION, so we can go from 1% to, say, 30% ridership?... Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote: Google "Hubbert's Peak. Yeah I remember when "We're gonna run out in 1975!!" was all the rage. Back when "New Ice Age" sold newspapers, long before the bogus "Warming" Whatever. Hubbert's prediction of when US domestic oil production would peak proved to be correct. Unless one believes that oil is made from some process in the center of the earth that does not rely on ancient plant matter (for which no evidence exists), oil will become more and more scarce. Certainly the extraction costs are much higher than in the past and keep rising. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia GHAWAR IS DYING! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Can you make it to the market on a bike?
Martin Dann writes:
Bill Z. wrote: Look, I really don't have the time to deal with some moron who can't understand the English language, nor with some character who misunderstands on purpose. Sorry I must apologise for being a moron that does not even understand my own first language. Since you've apologized, you can continue by refraining to post until you are no longer a moron. :-) The term "normal speed of traffic" appears in the California Vehicle Code. It means precisely what it says (and the term "traffic" refers to everything moving on the road - cars, bicycles, horses, what-have-you). As I told you repeatedly, "normal" modifies "speed", not "traffic". Can you get that through your thick scull? Normal modifies speed, but once certain vehicles are deemed to be slower, normal then defines normal traffic, and abnormal traffic. Wrong. The term "normal speed" refers to basically the average speed (the term is a bit vague but probably means the median or mode rather than the mean). It is basically how fast one has to go without holding up other traffic (cars, bikes, scooters, etc.). It does not make slow vehicles "abnormal". btw I don't own any boats. When did boats enter the discussion? Trying to throw in a red herring or something? -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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Bill Zaumen wrote:
Martin Dann writes: Bill Z. wrote: Look, I really don't have the time to deal with some moron who can't understand the English language, nor with some character who misunderstands on purpose. Sorry I must apologise for being a moron that does not even understand my own first language. Since you've apologized, you can continue by refraining to post until you are no longer a moron. :-) The term "normal speed of traffic" appears in the California Vehicle Code. It means precisely what it says (and the term "traffic" refers to everything moving on the road - cars, bicycles, horses, what-have-you). As I told you repeatedly, "normal" modifies "speed", not "traffic". Can you get that through your thick scull? Normal modifies speed, but once certain vehicles are deemed to be slower, normal then defines normal traffic, and abnormal traffic. Wrong. The term "normal speed" refers to basically the average speed (the term is a bit vague but probably means the median or mode rather than the mean). It is basically how fast one has to go without holding up other traffic (cars, bikes, scooters, etc.). It does not make slow vehicles "abnormal". btw I don't own any boats. When did boats enter the discussion? Trying to throw in a red herring or something? Hint: Zaumen wrote "Can you get that through your thick scull?", implying that Martin Dann owner a scull, which is a type of boat. One wonders if Zaumen really was referring to Martin Dann's "thick skull", which is the bone structure surrounding the brain. A grammatical error, perhaps? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Can you make it to the market on a bike?
Bill Z. wrote:
Martin Dann writes: Bill Z. wrote: Look, I really don't have the time to deal with some moron who can't understand the English language, nor with some character who misunderstands on purpose. Sorry I must apologise for being a moron that does not even understand my own first language. Since you've apologized, you can continue by refraining to post until you are no longer a moron. :-) Just checked the dictionary definition of the word moron, according to the IQ definition I am actually 3 morons, so I can post. The term "normal speed of traffic" appears in the California Vehicle Code. It means precisely what it says (and the term "traffic" refers to everything moving on the road - cars, bicycles, horses, what-have-you). As I told you repeatedly, "normal" modifies "speed", not "traffic". Can you get that through your thick scull? Normal modifies speed, but once certain vehicles are deemed to be slower, normal then defines normal traffic, and abnormal traffic. Wrong. The term "normal speed" refers to basically the average speed (the term is a bit vague but probably means the median or mode rather than the mean). It is basically how fast one has to go without holding up other traffic (cars, bikes, scooters, etc.). It does not make slow vehicles "abnormal". This is still a Californian Legal term, it does not apply to the rest of the world. As a legal term, is should not be vague, it should be defined as one of mode, median, mean, average, etc., not changing every time you try and define it here. btw The United Kingdom (including England) is not in California. btw I don't own any boats. When did boats enter the discussion? Trying to throw in a red herring or something? Sorry you mentioned them first, I don't know why as they don't normally travel on roads. (Or do they have a special road lane in California). |
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"Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman" writes:
Bill Zaumen wrote: Martin Dann writes: Bill Z. wrote: Look, I really don't have the time to deal with some moron who can't understand the English language, nor with some character who misunderstands on purpose. Sorry I must apologise for being a moron that does not even understand my own first language. Since you've apologized, you can continue by refraining to post until you are no longer a moron. :-) The term "normal speed of traffic" appears in the California Vehicle Code. It means precisely what it says (and the term "traffic" refers to everything moving on the road - cars, bicycles, horses, what-have-you). As I told you repeatedly, "normal" modifies "speed", not "traffic". Can you get that through your thick scull? Normal modifies speed, but once certain vehicles are deemed to be slower, normal then defines normal traffic, and abnormal traffic. Wrong. The term "normal speed" refers to basically the average speed (the term is a bit vague but probably means the median or mode rather than the mean). It is basically how fast one has to go without holding up other traffic (cars, bikes, scooters, etc.). It does not make slow vehicles "abnormal". btw I don't own any boats. When did boats enter the discussion? Trying to throw in a red herring or something? Hint: Zaumen wrote "Can you get that through your thick scull?", implying that Martin Dann owner a scull, which is a type of boat. Oh, you found another typo that my spelling corrector wouldn't find. Good boy. We'll give you a lollipop. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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Martin Dann writes:
Bill Z. wrote: Martin Dann writes: Bill Z. wrote: Look, I really don't have the time to deal with some moron who can't understand the English language, nor with some character who misunderstands on purpose. Sorry I must apologise for being a moron that does not even understand my own first language. Since you've apologized, you can continue by refraining to post until you are no longer a moron. :-) Just checked the dictionary definition of the word moron, according to the IQ definition I am actually 3 morons, so I can post. Alas, the IQ's of morons are not additive. Normal modifies speed, but once certain vehicles are deemed to be slower, normal then defines normal traffic, and abnormal traffic. Wrong. The term "normal speed" refers to basically the average speed (the term is a bit vague but probably means the median or mode rather than the mean). It is basically how fast one has to go without holding up other traffic (cars, bikes, scooters, etc.). It does not make slow vehicles "abnormal". This is still a Californian Legal term, it does not apply to the rest of the world. As a legal term, is should not be vague, it should be defined as one of mode, median, mean, average, etc., not changing every time you try and define it here. Bring it up with the state legislature. That's who wrote it. If you get a ticket for crawling along in the left lane, however, feel free to use that argument of yours in court and see how far it gets you. I'm sure the judge will not be amused, other than by the expression on your face when he tells you the fine. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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