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On 1/17/2018 9:38 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/17/2018 10:11 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: Well, you could also make your own wrenches. The technique would be similar to making your own knife. Buy a bar of heat treatable steel that's the correct thickness: http://www.onlinemetals.com Trim to shape with either a band saw or angle grinder. Refine the shape with an angle grinder, belt sander or hand file. Make a fancy wooden handle in the same manner as a custom knife. Harden and anneal the wrench. Clean up the slag, oil the wooden handle, make YouTube video, and you're done. But with mechanical tools, I don't think I could ever make a tool that is superior to one which I can get cheaply from Crooks"R"Us. And if it would be, the difference wouldn't be one I would notice or one that would motivate all the time spent on it. It depends. I've certainly made tools. Not to duplicate something I could buy at a store; instead, to get a tool that wasn't available - or at least, not available in a reasonable time. I don't recall having to do this for working on a bicycle, but I've done it several times for other projects. Example: a car I once owned needed a repair to part of the ventilation and air conditioning system. The manual said to pull out the entire dashboard to access the bad part. But an online discussion said a person with small hands could get it out by pulling only the radio. My hands are not small, but I was able to make a simple miniature wrench that could reach the most inaccessible screw. That saved me much trouble and expense. Hmm: A bike-related example! It was very easy to make a super-long screwdriver that allowed me to cannibalize the head from an old Zefal pump. Great minds think alike: http://www.yellowjersey.org/ZEFALV.JPG -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 1/17/2018 9:59 PM, David Scheidt wrote:
Emanuel Berg wrote: :With programming, one can do a tool which for :the specific purpose is superior to anything :else in the world, be it commercial or free of :charge. (Programming is of course a tool to do :just that, but nevertheless.) :But with mechanical tools, I don't think :I could ever make a tool that is superior to ne which I can get cheaply from Crooks"R"Us. :And if it would be, the difference wouldn't be ne I would notice or one that would motivate :all the time spent on it. You haven't spent much time in a workshop, then. Shop made tools are nearly universal, to solve unique problems that come up in that shop. I've made wrenches to fit stuff (out of bar stock, mostly, but once for a plastic pipe cap, out of plywood), two pin spanner wrenches, countless presses (including some to use on bikes), and all sorts of piece holding fixures or templates. I've modified wrenches (usually grinding them thinner). +1 One may buy specialty wrenches, but this $35 thing is easily duplicated with a 99c sale bin wrench and an acetylene torch: http://www.classicchevy.com/assets/c...sku/49-132.jpg -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AMuzi wrote:
:On 1/17/2018 9:59 PM, David Scheidt wrote: : Emanuel Berg wrote: : : :With programming, one can do a tool which for : :the specific purpose is superior to anything : :else in the world, be it commercial or free of : :charge. (Programming is of course a tool to do : :just that, but nevertheless.) : : :But with mechanical tools, I don't think : :I could ever make a tool that is superior to : ne which I can get cheaply from Crooks"R"Us. : :And if it would be, the difference wouldn't be : ne I would notice or one that would motivate : :all the time spent on it. : : You haven't spent much time in a workshop, then. : Shop made tools are nearly universal, to solve unique problems that : come up in that shop. I've made wrenches to fit stuff (out of bar : stock, mostly, but once for a plastic pipe cap, out of plywood), two : pin spanner wrenches, countless presses (including some to use on : bikes), and all sorts of piece holding fixures or templates. I've : modified wrenches (usually grinding them thinner). : : :+1 :One may buy specialty wrenches, but this $35 thing is easily :duplicated with a 99c sale bin wrench and an acetylene torch: :http://www.classicchevy.com/assets/c...sku/49-132.jpg A similar tool, that didn't come out of the 99c bin: https://imgur.com/8CvfsbA quarter for scale. -- sig 49 |
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Fixed the trucks tilt wheel jammed release with silicones n a large screwdriver ... sundown ing at the Oasis along the way online finding steering wheel assembly n repair asks for obsolete tool twichery ...on utube
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Emanuel Berg wrote:
avid Scheidt wrote: : You haven't spent much time in : a workshop, then. :No, I have only lived in one for the last 2-3 :years... : Shop made tools are nearly universal, to : solve unique problems that come up in that : shop. I've made wrenches to fit stuff (out of : bar stock, mostly, but once for a plastic : pipe cap, out of plywood), two pin spanner : wrenches, countless presses (including some : to use on bikes), and all sorts of piece : holding fixures or templates. :Well, wrenches, pin wrenches, and presses are :sure available to buy and not expensive at all. A pin wrench that fits the thing I'm taking apart is a trip to the store (or a wait for UPS) away. If I can knock one out in five minutes with a piece of scrap flat stock, a hacksaw, and a grinder, I'm ahead, even if the tool were free. I've got a couple, including an adjustable one, but sometimes you need something else. The last little press I put together was to replace the bearings in a small electric motor. It's possilbe I could have found a commercial thing that worked, but a new motor would have been cheaper. the press was two pieces of threaded rod, two pieces of slotted bar stock, a bolt, a scrap piece of gas pipe, a bunch of washers, and a few nuts. All of it was stuff around the shop, all of it remains available for other uses. -- sig 103 |
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David Scheidt wrote:
A pin wrench that fits the thing I'm taking apart is a trip to the store (or a wait for UPS) away. If I can knock one out in five minutes with a piece of scrap flat stock, a hacksaw, and a grinder, I'm ahead, even if the tool were free. I've got a couple, including an adjustable one, but sometimes you need something else. When I worked for a bricklayer here we used to go to the hardware store almost every single day because the tools ware always in disarray, or abused, or missing. It took half the work day, again almost every day. At that point I decided that was never going to happen to me so now I go to the HW store once a month, and if there is something that "needs to be done" and there is stuff missing, I suppress that pressing need and do it the next month instead. IMO it is much better, more relaxed and also more efficient, because instead of going back and forth to get just the right stuff, which then disappears and you have to do it all over again, you focus not what cannot be done, but what you can do with the equipment that you know 100% where it is and in what state. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On 1/18/2018 10:12 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
David Scheidt wrote: A pin wrench that fits the thing I'm taking apart is a trip to the store (or a wait for UPS) away. If I can knock one out in five minutes with a piece of scrap flat stock, a hacksaw, and a grinder, I'm ahead, even if the tool were free. I've got a couple, including an adjustable one, but sometimes you need something else. When I worked for a bricklayer here we used to go to the hardware store almost every single day because the tools ware always in disarray, or abused, or missing. It took half the work day, again almost every day. At that point I decided that was never going to happen to me so now I go to the HW store once a month, and if there is something that "needs to be done" and there is stuff missing, I suppress that pressing need and do it the next month instead. IMO it is much better, more relaxed and also more efficient, because instead of going back and forth to get just the right stuff, which then disappears and you have to do it all over again, you focus not what cannot be done, but what you can do with the equipment that you know 100% where it is and in what state. You have jobs you delay until you can get just the right tool, maybe in a few weeks? Those aren't jobs. Those are dilettante hobbies. You learned the wrong lesson from your bricklayer job. The proper lesson was to organize your tools and keep them organized. Two pertinent bits of advice from my father: 1) A place for everything and everything in its place. 2) Anybody can do a job slowly. Smart people can do a job quickly and well. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
You have jobs you delay until you can get just the right tool, maybe in a few weeks? Those aren't jobs. Those are dilettante hobbies. Well, you can fire off whatever cabin fever insults you like, I'm unaffected as I know the every day value to hundreds of people of my gardening, fire wood, carpentry, mechanics, and home improvement "hobbies"... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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