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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
Robert Stevahn Wrote: On 6 Feb 2007 10:51:43 -0800, wrote: R E C U M B E N T P E D A L N O T E S ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm sorry, but this post is complete nonsense. My Speedplay X-type cleats and pedals work perfectly well on my SWB (or any other, I'd wager) bicycle. Many other people use many other systems with no problem at all. -- Robert You don't have to say you're sorry for calling a spade a spade. The entire forum here seems to be about nothing but complete nonsense. Pure pabulum for weak and insecure. -- nget |
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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
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ps.com... R E C U M B E N T P E D A L N O T E S ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know that toe clips aren't popular these days. On the recumbent, however, they are a little more problamatic. They are a lot slower to get in to because one has to come from ``underneath'' the clip; the traditional method of catching the rear point of the pedal on the sole of the shoe doesn't work well when you are behind the pedals rather than above them. I don't recommend clips-and-straps for recumbent use . On the other hand, my chiropractor, who also has a great interest in sports medicine, examined my recumbent and said that he felt the twisting motion needed to get out of clipless pedals would be harmful if used from a recumbent, rather than the normal upright, position. It's possible. I've experienced pretty nasty pain in my knees from jerking my foot out of SPD's that were set too tight. (I'm not a fan of SPD's, and ride them as infrequently as possible.) When you are using toeclips, the type of shoes you wear is quite important. My first test rides on my recumbent were in street shoes, and I couldn't keep my feet in the clips for any length of time. (If I didn't actively push my feet up when in the clips, they would just fall right out.) Yep. That's why PowerGrips are (or were) popular for commuters (around here anyway). snippage I can relax my legs completely and my feet will still `hang' in the toeclips. THAT is what you want. To avoid dropping a foot while riding, you want to be able to hang your feet freely from the pedals. This is especially important when riding extremely laid-back bikes like low racers, where dropping a foot by accident can severely wrench your knee. Some recumbent riders here on ARBR prefer the "lollipop" style pedals made by Speedplay and BeBop, because they are foolproof to get in and out of, and easy on the knees. Here's an archived thread comparing these pedals: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...edc71195680aa5 |
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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
What Me Worry? wrote:
It's possible. I've experienced pretty nasty pain in my knees from jerking my foot out of SPD's that were set too tight. (I'm not a fan of SPD's, and ride them as infrequently as possible.) Have you tried Time ATACs/Aliums? No fiddling about with tension like SPuDs, the mechanisms handle all that for you and they're always (IME) pretty easy in and out but won't let go unless you want them to, even with badly worn cleats. I've got pretty dodgy knees but never any trouble from my ATACs. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
On 2007-02-07 16:59:57 +0000, Peter Clinch said:
What Me Worry? wrote: It's possible. I've experienced pretty nasty pain in my knees from jerking my foot out of SPD's that were set too tight. (I'm not a fan of SPD's, and ride them as infrequently as possible.) Have you tried Time ATACs/Aliums? No fiddling about with tension like SPuDs, the mechanisms handle all that for you and they're always (IME) pretty easy in and out but won't let go unless you want them to, even with badly worn cleats. I've got pretty dodgy knees but never any trouble from my ATACs. Pete. I have no anteria or posteria cruciate ligaments in my left knee and a re-profiled, re constructed tibial plateau and I use ATACs to great effect, I cannot walk to well but I can cycle for hundreds of km. -- Three wheels good, two wheels ok www.catrike.co.uk |
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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
SPD clipless pedals work great on a bent.( better that an upright) I would
not be without them . The last thing you want is for your foot to slip off while coasting. Ouch 1 wrote in message ps.com... R E C U M B E N T P E D A L N O T E S ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know that toe clips aren't popular these days. On the recumbent, however, they are a little more problamatic. They are a lot slower to get in to because one has to come from ``underneath'' the clip; the traditional method of catching the rear point of the pedal on the sole of the shoe doesn't work well when you are behind the pedals rather than above them. On the other hand, my chiropractor, who also has a great interest in sports medicine, examined my recumbent and said that he felt the twisting motion needed to get out of clipless pedals would be harmful if used from a recumbent, rather than the normal upright, position. When you are using toeclips, the type of shoes you wear is quite important. My first test rides on my recumbent were in street shoes, and I couldn't keep my feet in the clips for any length of time. (If I didn't actively push my feet up when in the clips, they would just fall right out.) In my touring shoes, which are designed for toeclips, I don't have this problem. I've got a pair of old Sidi touring shoes, which have about 3 mm deep left-right grooves in the sole under the ball of the foot. On an upright bike these help to catch the hook on the back of the pedal to help one clip in. (They work very well: on my upright I can get back into clips faster than most people I know can cleat in. I sometimes find myself looking down to find out why I'm having so much trouble getting into the clip to find that my foot went in so smoothly and quickly that I never noticed it.) On my recumbent (and presumably on my upright, though I didn't notice it as much) these grooves act like small cleats, and help to keep my foot locked into the pedal. I keep my toe straps quite tight. I thought this would make the clips more difficult to get in to, but it doesn't, and it takes a good solid tug to get my feet out of the clips. (But I've got no problem doing it; I do it at every stoplight.) I can relax my legs completely and my feet will still `hang' in the toeclips. I have also tried a pair of old racing shoes (designed for toe clips and straps) with cleats on them. They really lock your foot in nicely, but it wasn't as easy to get the foot out (though it could still be done without any inordinant amount of difficulty). The biggest problem with these was the very smooth, hard sole, which made walking and even standing very difficult. I actually fell over on my recumbent at one point after I had put my foot down on the ground because the shoe just slid out from under me. The touring shoes never have this problem. Sad to say, proper shoes designed for clip systems are awfully difficult to find these days. Modern cycling shoes can be bought with a little rubber plate in place of the cleat (one would normally remove this to install the cleat) but I've not seen any shoes recently that have the grooves my Sidi shoes have. |
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