King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures

Nicholas Grieco wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:52 pm, SMS wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
What is the strongest cage on the market?
Unknown. Based on looking at the construction quality, I'd say the Forte
Performance Terra Lite Stainless MTB Cage is one of the strongest.
Better design than the King Cages in terms of how the mounting plate is
welded to the tubing.

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.
The solution isn't a stronger cage, which will transfer the force to the
braze-ons and damage the frame, especially if it's an aluminum frame
with Rivnuts.

I'd buy a set of
"http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB=%273242-00%27"
and mount them snug, but not so tight that they can't rotate around the
tube (assuming it's round tubing!).

I use these on one of my folding bikes where it's necessary to rotate
the cage out the way when folding the bike.

The TwoFish stainless 'quick cage' is a nice solution:
http://www.twofish.biz/bike.html

I have one of those but it's not my favorite solution. It moves a lot
when you put the bottle in or remove it.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:20:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 27, 1:27*pm, SMS wrote:

I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.

Not equal at all. Nitto = beauty = Idiot with class. CFRP = hideous
= Idiot that is trying hard to become a moron. I got my Nittos when
they were only $38 and when my 401K was going to let me retire before
I turned 85.


You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.

Or $900 cranksets or $500 brake calipers or $5000 plastic frames or
$2000 wheels or {insert yer favorite overpriced bike gewgaw here}.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. There seems to be some choice in
SS bottle cages. If I ever have to do this again I'll probably look at
the Performance cages.

The reason I went with stainless is that it matches the titanium
Litespeed that they are mounted on.

Thanks,

Steve

On Feb 27, 6:30*pm, SMS wrote:
Nicholas Grieco wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:52 pm, SMS wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
What is the strongest cage on the market?
Unknown. Based on looking at the construction quality, I'd say the Forte
Performance Terra Lite Stainless MTB Cage is one of the strongest.
Better design than the King Cages in terms of how the mounting plate is
welded to the tubing.

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.
The solution isn't a stronger cage, which will transfer the force to the
braze-ons and damage the frame, especially if it's an aluminum frame
with Rivnuts.

I'd buy a set of
"http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB=%273242-00%27"
and mount them snug, but not so tight that they can't rotate around the
tube (assuming it's round tubing!).

I use these on one of my folding bikes where it's necessary to rotate
the cage out the way when folding the bike.

The TwoFish stainless 'quick cage' is a nice solution:
http://www.twofish.biz/bike.html

I have one of those but it's not my favorite solution. It moves a lot
when you put the bottle in or remove it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Cinching it tighter doesn't help?

For people unfamiliar with TwoFish stuff, the mounting 'block' is soft
rubber with a high friction coefficient. It does not mar the finish
of the bike. The pump mount is an excellent alternative to the
ineffectual plastic mounts that come with many pumps.

On Feb 27, 8:45*pm, "Clive George" wrote:
wrote in message

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Or $900 cranksets or $500 brake calipers or $5000 plastic frames or
$2000 wheels or {insert yer favorite overpriced bike gewgaw here}.

Just saw this one the other day -

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Li..._Derailleur/53...

That's the most gorgeous $1200 RD I've ever seen. You can spend about
a grand to save ~40 grams over a top-drawer DA 7900 RD. Whatta
bargain.

Clive George wrote:
wrote in message
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Or $900 cranksets or $500 brake calipers or $5000 plastic frames or
$2000 wheels or {insert yer favorite overpriced bike gewgaw here}.

Just saw this one the other day -

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Li...ur/5360040339/



Yikes. And I thought the new Super Record at 179g was light. Sheesh.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 27 Feb, 23:23, Tom Sherman
wrote:
SMS aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:

wrote:

****can those King cages and get yerself summa thoze Nitto "R" cages
that are shaped like an hourglass. *I'll bet that one of those gems
has never failed in real-life. *Sure, they're pricey compared to other
non-CFRP cages but there prolly ain't a more beautiful and functional
piece of bike crap in the whole world. Plus which, they really aren't
that expensive compared to the CFRP ones that most idiots buy today.

I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.

Actually there are some reasons to buy a non-metal cage, but an
injection molded fiberglas reinforced nylon cage is sufficient if you
want to carry something like a steel vacuum bottle or steel vacuum
commuter cup. The Profile Kage from Profile Design costs $3.49 at
PricePoint, "http://tinyurl.com/profilekage".

They also have a stainless steel cage,
"http://tinyurl.com/settestainlesscage"

You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

Geet a cheap plastic one, it'll bend, not break.
TJ

"Nick L Plate" wrote in message
...

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.

Geet a cheap plastic one, it'll bend, not break.

I actually agree with this one - I like my plastic cages, they seem to work
and retain their shape.

On 28 Feb, 13:37, "Clive George" wrote:
"Nick L Plate" wrote in ...

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.

Geet a cheap plastic one, it'll bend, not break.

I actually agree with this one - I like my plastic cages, they seem to work
and retain their shape.

I think it was £1 with bottle at Halfords, five years back.

Clive George wrote:
"Nick L Plate" wrote in message
...

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.
Geet a cheap plastic one, it'll bend, not break.

I actually agree with this one - I like my plastic cages, they seem to work
and retain their shape.

Another solution is this:

"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001H9FG52/sanfrancisc0b-20?creative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1"

though it's not convenient for grabbing the bottle for a quick drink
because you can't slide the bottle out too easily. It's also a good
holder for many folding bikes because the rubber strap can be pushed out
the way when folding.

It's also good for carrying wide diameter bottles.

I bought one at Wal-Mart, and Sports Authority has also had them.

SMS aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:

What is the strongest cage on the market?

Unknown. Based on looking at the construction quality, I'd say the Forte
Performance Terra Lite Stainless MTB Cage is one of the strongest.
Better design than the King Cages in terms of how the mounting plate is
welded to the tubing.

I will check those out:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=14681.

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the
cage, so I tend to break them frequently.

The solution isn't a stronger cage, which will transfer the force to the
braze-ons and damage the frame, especially if it's an aluminum frame
with Rivnuts.

Nope, 4130 cro-moly, so the mounts are most likely brazed on.

I'd buy a set of
"http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB=%273242-00%27"
and mount them snug, but not so tight that they can't rotate around the
tube (assuming it's round tubing!).

I use these on one of my folding bikes where it's necessary to rotate
the cage out the way when folding the bike.

The cage mounts to the chain-stay behind the seat, so letting the mount
rotate would put the bottle against the rear ti
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/1939602865/.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll