Wriggling driver to be tried after lying over killing

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice in connection with the death of teenage cyclist Shane Courtney who died tragically following the incident over three years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely informed police that his vehicle was not in collision with the deceased and that another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-30558205.html

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:15:54 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to
pervert the course of justice in connection with the death of teenage
cyclist Shane Courtney who died tragically following the incident
over three years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely informed
police that his vehicle was not in collision with the deceased and
that another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-30558205.html

That's from September 2014 ...

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 17:33:18 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:15:54 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to
pervert the course of justice in connection with the death of teenage
cyclist Shane Courtney who died tragically following the incident
over three years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely informed
police that his vehicle was not in collision with the deceased and
that another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-30558205.html

That's from September 2014 ...

Sorry - I posted the wrong page.
Should have been this one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...st-383049.html

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:15:54 -0800, Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to pervert
the course of justice in connection with the death of teenage cyclist
Shane Courtney who died tragically following the incident over three
years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely informed
police that his vehicle was not in collision with the deceased and that
another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/.../charged-with-
perverting-the-course-of-justice-30558205.html

Rabiul Alam
4 Kings Park
Muckross Road
Killarney

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:42:02 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 17:33:18 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:15:54 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to
pervert the course of justice in connection with the death of
teenage cyclist Shane Courtney who died tragically following the
incident over three years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely
informed police that his vehicle was not in collision with the
deceased and that another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-30558205.html

That's from September 2014 ...

Sorry - I posted the wrong page.
Should have been this one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...st-383049.html

No charges for traffic offences - it seems the cyclist put himself in
harm's way by pulling out of a side road and the drivers aren't much to
blame.

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 18:27:49 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:

Sorry - I posted the wrong page.
Should have been this one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...st-383049.html

No charges for traffic offences - it seems the cyclist put himself in
harm's way by pulling out of a side road and the drivers aren't much to
blame.

Which makes it odd. Admit a SMIDSY and get off scot free, pervert the course of justice and face jail.

QUOTE:
"Perverting the course of justice is a wide offence that can be committed in a number of circumstances. Perhaps the most recent example in a high-profile case was that of the former cabinet minister Chris Huhne.

Mr Huhne was found guilty of perverting the course of justice when he was found to have conspired with his ex-wife to have her take penalty points he had received when driving, so that he could avoid a disqualification from driving.

This is a good example of perverting the course of justice, because their conspiracy would have led to a guilty man avoiding a due punishment."

On 20/02/2016 19:38, Alycidon wrote:
On Saturday, 20 February 2016 18:27:49 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:

Sorry - I posted the wrong page.
Should have been this one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...st-383049.html

No charges for traffic offences - it seems the cyclist put himself in
harm's way by pulling out of a side road and the drivers aren't much to
blame.

Which makes it odd. Admit a SMIDSY and get off scot free, pervert the course of justice and face jail.


It was the cyclist that was guilty of smidsy or just not looking at all,
which is common amongst cyclists.

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:38:11 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 18:27:49 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:

Sorry - I posted the wrong page.
Should have been this one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...st-383049.html

No charges for traffic offences - it seems the cyclist put himself
in harm's way by pulling out of a side road and the drivers aren't
much to blame.

Which makes it odd. Admit a SMIDSY and get off scot free, pervert the
course of justice and face jail.

Doesn't sound like a SMIDSY to me, more like the cyclist pulled out of
a side road into the path of a car on the main road (driven by the guy
who got done for perverting justice) which clipped him and sent him into
the path of a second car, which killed him.
Whether either of the drivers was going too fast or not paying
attention is not clear from any report of the incident that I've read.

On 21/02/2016 00:31, Phil W Lee wrote:
Rob Morley considered Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:27:47
+0000 the perfect time to write:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:42:02 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 17:33:18 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:15:54 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to
pervert the course of justice in connection with the death of
teenage cyclist Shane Courtney who died tragically following the
incident over three years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely
informed police that his vehicle was not in collision with the
deceased and that another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-30558205.html

That's from September 2014 ...

Sorry - I posted the wrong page.
Should have been this one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...st-383049.html

No charges for traffic offences - it seems the cyclist put himself in
harm's way by pulling out of a side road and the drivers aren't much to
blame.

If that was the case, why did the taxi driver lie about it?
There's no point in lying unless you have something to hide.

I believe that in any case involving hit & run or perverting the
course of justice the burden of proof on dangerous driving (or the
"causing death by", or "serious injury by" variants) should be
automatically reversed - i.e. if you fled or lied, it is presumed that
you were driving dangerously unless you can prove otherwise.
If it was blatantly obvious that the driving was dangerous even
without that presumption, then it should be raised to "deliberate".

I'm sure that would cut down a lot on the prevalence of hit and run
offences against cyclists and pedestrians - the driver would HAVE to
stop to stand any chance of being presumed innocent.


and would the same apply to cyclists that hit and run?

On 20/02/2016 17:33, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:15:54 -0800 (PST)
Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"A 38-YEAR-OLD taxi driver has been charged with attempting to
pervert the course of justice in connection with the death of teenage
cyclist Shane Courtney who died tragically following the incident
over three years ago.

The charge claims that father-of-three knowingly and falsely informed
police that his vehicle was not in collision with the deceased and
that another car was in collision with the deceased."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-30558205.html

That's from September 2014 ...

And it was in another country...

....and besides, the wench is dead.