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Old February 13th 09, 04:31 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything socially useful"

Interesting quote from The Token Conservative
http://www.tokenconservative.com/on-...ils-of-dating/
Feb 12, 2009
"...the relentless destruction of male single-sex redoubts, such as
fraternal organizations and colleges, while corresponding female
institutions are touted as nurturing “female empowerment.” And, of
course, the integration of the military has diluted the traditional
preserve by which young men might prove their masculinity to
themselves and each other in a carefully controlled channeling of male
aggression. The imperfect substitute has been the rise of “extreme
sports.” Unfortunately, at the end of the day, such sports do not
accomplish anything socially useful...
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old February 13th 09, 11:03 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Kayak44
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Default Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplishanything socially useful"

On Feb 12, 11:31*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Interesting quote from The Token Conservativehttp://www.tokenconservative..com/on-the-perils-of-dating/
Feb 12, 2009
"...the relentless destruction of male single-sex redoubts, such as
fraternal organizations and colleges, while corresponding female
institutions are touted as nurturing “female empowerment.” And, of
course, the integration of the military has diluted the traditional
preserve by which young men might prove their masculinity to
themselves and each other in a carefully controlled channeling of male
aggression. The imperfect substitute has been the rise of “extreme
sports.” Unfortunately, at the end of the day, such sports do not
accomplish anything socially useful...


Interesting quote from the bathroom wall at an Ohio truckstop...

"Mike Vandeman sucks California Condors".
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Old February 13th 09, 06:19 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland
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Default Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything socially useful"


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

snip
Unfortunately, at the end of the day, such sports do not
accomplish anything socially useful...

/snip

The irony is, YOU are of no social significance either.

I've already done the math for you (repeatedly) that proves that even if you
were 100% successful with your agenda to save the world from mountain bikes,
there would have to be 100% destruction on 100% of the trail system AND the
trail system woiuld require that 100% of every square mile of open space
have a route that is 1 mile long, and that if ALL of these conditions was
met, you would save just 0.0004% of the environment. Since there is not a
mile-long trail in each and every square mile of open space, and the
totality of any route that is out there is not an enviornmental disaster
(even by your own standards),and you are a complete failure -- but I'll save
that for another day -- then your goal has fallen far short of that 0.0004%
that you hope to save.

This is the definition of, no social siginficance.






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Old February 14th 09, 05:14 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything socially useful"

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:19:16 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .

snip
Unfortunately, at the end of the day, such sports do not
accomplish anything socially useful...

/snip

The irony is, YOU are of no social significance either.

I've already done the math for you


Too bad it's not a mathematical issue. You STILL don't understand
that. You are a nebbish. A zero. An expert in being insignificant.

(repeatedly) that proves that even if you
were 100% successful with your agenda to save the world from mountain bikes,
there would have to be 100% destruction on 100% of the trail system AND the
trail system woiuld require that 100% of every square mile of open space
have a route that is 1 mile long, and that if ALL of these conditions was
met, you would save just 0.0004% of the environment. Since there is not a
mile-long trail in each and every square mile of open space, and the
totality of any route that is out there is not an enviornmental disaster
(even by your own standards),and you are a complete failure -- but I'll save
that for another day -- then your goal has fallen far short of that 0.0004%
that you hope to save.

This is the definition of, no social siginficance.





--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old February 14th 09, 05:19 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplish anything socially useful"

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:03:12 -0800 (PST), Kayak44
wrote:

On Feb 12, 11:31*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Interesting quote from The Token Conservativehttp://www.tokenconservative.com/on-the-perils-of-dating/
Feb 12, 2009
"...the relentless destruction of male single-sex redoubts, such as
fraternal organizations and colleges, while corresponding female
institutions are touted as nurturing “female empowerment.” And, of
course, the integration of the military has diluted the traditional
preserve by which young men might prove their masculinity to
themselves and each other in a carefully controlled channeling of male
aggression. The imperfect substitute has been the rise of “extreme
sports.” Unfortunately, at the end of the day, such sports do not
accomplish anything socially useful...


Interesting quote from the bathroom wall at an Ohio truckstop...


That's obviously where you get your larnin' -- such as it is.

"Mike Vandeman sucks California Condors".

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old February 14th 09, 01:48 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Interesting quote from the bathroom wall at an Ohio truckstop...

"Mike Vandeman sucks California Condors".


mike doesn't call them bathroom walls. He prefers the spiritual term
glory hole
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Old February 14th 09, 04:06 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplish anything socially useful"

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:48:25 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:


Interesting quote from the bathroom wall at an Ohio truckstop...

"Mike Vandeman sucks California Condors".


mike doesn't call them bathroom walls. He prefers the spiritual term
glory hole


Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED,
Walter Skrzypek (professional LIAR):

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old February 14th 09, 05:08 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

Too bad it's not a mathematical issue. You STILL don't understand
that. You are a nebbish. A zero. An expert in being insignificant.


At the end of trhe day, everything is a mathematical issue. The issue itself
might be math-free, but the impact and effect can be measured, and measuring
is always a math issue.

If you were 100% effective in your agenda, you might (at the very best) save
0.0004% of the environment. Basically, less than a newspaper page on a
tennis court. Since the impact is really far less than you assert, your
effectiveness is also far lower, maybe a letter sized sheet of paper on a
tennis court. I suspect actual ratio is closer to a postage stamp on a
tennis court ...

Add your utter lack of social significance to your complete lunacy, and the
picture is not very impressive.







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Old February 14th 09, 07:27 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.


Lol...that is a funny picture. Too bad that athletic male isn't you.
You're pathetic.
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Old February 15th 09, 12:11 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

Too bad it's not a mathematical issue. You STILL don't understand
that. You are a nebbish. A zero. An expert in being insignificant.


At the end of trhe day, everything is a mathematical issue. The issue
itself might be math-free, but the impact and effect can be measured, and
measuring is always a math issue.

If you were 100% effective in your agenda, you might (at the very best)
save 0.0004% of the environment. Basically, less than a newspaper page on
a tennis court. Since the impact is really far less than you assert, your
effectiveness is also far lower, maybe a letter sized sheet of paper on a
tennis court. I suspect actual ratio is closer to a postage stamp on a
tennis court ...

Add your utter lack of social significance to your complete lunacy, and
the picture is not very impressive.


You really help to put it in perspective, although I think the postage stamp
is more likely located on a few thousand hectares of forest. HOWEVER, the
entertainment value of idiot-sticks postings is far greater! Reading this
simpletons drivel is quite fascinating. It give an insight into the unstable
mind that has delusions of grandeur.

He honestly believes that:

1. He has a point other than the one on top of his head.
2. He is making, or can make a difference.
3. That a difference WRT MTBing needs to be made!

He doesn't detract from this group, he truly adds to it. Like a pathetic
court jester, or, more accurately, a village idiot, he is usually quite
funny if viewed from the proper perspective. I suppose if you took him
seriously or if he had any valid points, it might be possible to feel
annoyed with him.

 




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