Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything socially useful"

How it is that everyone in the entire world...except mikey is a
liar...what a small little world you live in bubble boy! And no.
Everything I posted is not a lie. They have all been proven over and
over in the threads. You lied many a times or just avoid the topics
because if you answer...you lie. You do indeed work for a destructive
corporation...unless they fired you nutcase ass too like the sierra
club booted you. and that is a fact!

So how did you get to and from Australia from Berkely?
avoidance...quick. avoid the question artful dodger! Did you take a
non-powered sailboat...nope. You flew. You do indeed state in a prior
thread that you walked to the airport. do not deny. You liar. You most
certainly did claim to write a book of mountain biking. It is also in
a prior thread. Lie. and you don't know me at all so don't claim you
do. I have proven any claims that I make. That's a fact. Regarding the
picture...damn right it isn't you. You're a flaming fat ass wanna be
that picks the smallest cause to jump on the bandwagon...you're a
loser.

Irrelevant. Unlike you, I can be an expert in more than one subject,
which is why I have been invited to present papers at numerous
scientific conferences, including conferences on conservation biology.

And these would be conferences you walked to again? liar. You're a
movie of the week....

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:55:32 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

How it is that everyone in the entire world...except mikey is a
liar.

No, but mountain bikers and mountain biker wanabes lie more than
anyone else I know. You are BY FAR the worst. You still haven't even
admitted this big whopper:

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED,
Walter Skrzypek (professional LIAR):

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.

...what a small little world you live in bubble boy! And no.
Everything I posted is not a lie. They have all been proven over and
over in the threads. You lied many a times or just avoid the topics
because if you answer...you lie. You do indeed work for a destructive
corporation...unless they fired you nutcase ass too like the sierra
club booted you. and that is a fact!

No, it isn't. I'm a Life Member. You don't know what you are talking
about, about this subject or any other.

So how did you get to and from Australia from Berkely?
avoidance...quick. avoid the question artful dodger! Did you take a
non-powered sailboat...nope. You flew. You do indeed state in a prior
thread that you walked to the airport.

I did. In Adelaide.

do not deny. You liar. You most
certainly did claim to write a book of mountain biking.

No, I didn't. You can't read English.

It is also in
a prior thread. Lie. and you don't know me at all so don't claim you
do. I have proven any claims that I make. That's a fact.

No, it isn't.

Regarding the
picture...damn right it isn't you.

You said it was me, now you admit it was a LIE. That's what you are
like: an incorrigible LIAR.

You're a flaming fat ass wanna be
that picks the smallest cause to jump on the bandwagon...you're a
loser.
--
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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Ok...here's a direct quote from mikey. posted on march 26, 2008 to
present you with your first lie.

I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts. That's the most rational thing ever written about it.

or a better quote from mike from march 31st, 2008, perhaps one of the
best quotes..

Mike Vandeman wrote:
I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts.
I never said I wrote a book, although I did.

above you state you didn't write a book...but you state here you
did..which is the truth and which is the lie.and mikey claims i lie
about his workplace destroying many environmental spots. He said I
lied. BUT this was uncovered long ago.

No the truth is that the "Environmental Savior" works for pacific-bell
telephone company! The ones who cut down forests for towers and telephone
poles and service roads for the telephone lines. A "CLEAR" example of what
MV wants to stop, bringing machines into the backcountry but yet he works
for them and in working for them he helps them in their efforts. A clear and
simple case of a .......HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!

Next...you walked to Adelaide airport. In australia...but you are from
Berkely? Did australia come to you? how did you walk there? You won't
state whether you flew...but you state you walked to the airport? Did
you go for a continental breakfast? just sightseeing at the airport?
No...you went to catch a flight which pollutes the air...you don't use
video conference to save the world.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:00:31 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Ok...here's a direct quote from mikey. posted on march 26, 2008 to
present you with your first lie.

I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts. That's the most rational thing ever written about it.

Do you see the word "the"? That means that this is an expression.
Learn to read English. "I wrote a book on mountain biking impacts"
would mean something completely different.

or a better quote from mike from march 31st, 2008, perhaps one of the
best quotes..

Mike Vandeman wrote:
I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts.
I never said I wrote a book, although I did.

above you state you didn't write a book...but you state here you
did..which is the truth and which is the lie.

There is no lie. The book I wrote was about the common cold. Idiot.

and mikey claims i lie
about his workplace destroying many environmental spots. He said I
lied. BUT this was uncovered long ago.

No the truth is that the "Environmental Savior" works for pacific-bell
telephone company! The ones who cut down forests for towers and telephone
poles and service roads for the telephone lines. A "CLEAR" example of what
MV wants to stop, bringing machines into the backcountry but yet he works
for them and in working for them he helps them in their efforts. A clear and
simple case of a .......HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!

That's a pack of lies.

Next...you walked to Adelaide airport.

Yes, I did.

In australia...but you are from
Berkely? Did australia come to you? how did you walk there? You won't
state whether you flew...but you state you walked to the airport?

Yes. What's your point? I should drive?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

You speak nothing but half-truths to avoid direct condemnation. You
are a hypocrite. I suppose the book you wrote on the common cold is
all "literature Reviews". other ppls work that you quote for entire
pages. The info about Pac Bell is not lies. It is fact. they destroy
enormous amounts of wilderness area as in the name of technology. and
you support this? you must because your entire sites are built on
their platform. So you support sierra club. sierra voted you out and
you may be a lifetime member but you are still not welcome into their
strange circle. Sierra Club gives those lovely little stuffed party
gifts or backpacks for joining...all of which are made in polluting
third world countries...how can a group like that...a group you are
lifetime member claim to be supporting the environment while dumping
money into those wasteful gifts? because they like you are hypocrites.
And the point of you walking to the airport is...you went their to
catch a flight. But you can't admit to flying? why did you go to the
airport?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:29:47 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

I suppose the book you wrote on the common cold is
all "literature Reviews". other ppls work that you quote for entire
pages.

No, it's 100% original. How cynical and ignorant you are.

The info about Pac Bell is not lies. It is fact.

BS. Pac Bell doesn't exist, Rip Van Winkle. Hasn't existed for year.
You are nothing but a string of LIES, covering colossal IGNORANCE.

they destroy
enormous amounts of wilderness area

LIAR.

as in the name of technology. and
you support this? you must because your entire sites are built on
their platform. So you support sierra club. sierra voted you out and
you may be a lifetime member but you are still not welcome into their
strange circle.

LIAR. You obviously know NOTHING.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On 17 Feb, 02:03, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:29:47 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:

*I suppose the book you wrote on the common cold is

all "literature Reviews". other ppls work that you quote for entire
pages.

No, it's 100% original. How cynical and ignorant you are.

The info about Pac Bell is not lies. It is fact.

BS. Pac Bell doesn't exist, Rip Van Winkle. Hasn't existed for year.
You are nothing but a string of LIES, covering colossal IGNORANCE.

*they destroy

enormous amounts of wilderness area

LIAR.

*as in the name of technology. and

you support this? you must because your entire sites are built on
their platform. So you support sierra club. sierra voted you out and
you may be a lifetime member but you are still not welcome into their
strange circle.

LIAR. You obviously know NOTHING.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

no...you have proven yourself with your own misguidance. Everything
you say. you contradict yourself. Still wondering why you avoid the
last question. Why go to the airport? DID YOU FLY?

On Feb 15, 1:03 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
BS. My case has been presented here & on my website.

Not really. There are so few citations, it's a joke to anyone who has
ever read peer reviewed journals.

I never said that, LIAR.

Ah, you've fallen pray to your own logic trap, because it is you who
are lying. I did not tell you that you said. I said, and I quote:

"Instead, you suggest that anyone who rides a bike off road and gets
injured, or rides a mountain bike who get injured is getting what they
deserve with no consideration for the circumstances apart from if they
were off road, or riding a mountain bike."

There are numerous threads which you have started, or responded to
with your well worn "Evolution in action!" riff regarding someone's
death or injury while riding a bike off road, while riding an off road
bike, or even being a noted off road rider. Your mocking of other
people’s injury or death is disgusting, rude, and tasteless to say the
least.

BS. I just want to educate. You are the one fighting to preserve your
considerable ignorance.

I disagree. Your assertion is that I am willingly or willfully
remaining ignorant about the environmental hazards of off road riding.
Instead, I am aware of them, and they are no more hazardous than
hiking. Try taking this up with golfers, who have a much bigger and
measurable impact on the ecology of land near golf courses.

You have never presented a single fact to support mountain biking.

Which is not really an issue since you will probably just call the
author a liar, not respond to the cited source, or ignore the whole
thing.

I've presented hundreds of facts that condemn
mountain biking for harming people & the environment.

I would not call them facts at all. You do not cite your sources, or
you cite yourself as a source which is a lot like a snake eating it's
tail.

Chris

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:30:35 -0800 (PST), Chris
wrote:

On Feb 15, 1:03 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
BS. My case has been presented here & on my website.

Not really. There are so few citations, it's a joke to anyone who has
ever read peer reviewed journals.

I never said that, LIAR.

Ah, you've fallen pray to your own logic trap, because it is you who
are lying. I did not tell you that you said. I said, and I quote:

"Instead, you suggest that anyone who rides a bike off road and gets
injured, or rides a mountain bike who get injured is getting what they
deserve with no consideration for the circumstances apart from if they
were off road, or riding a mountain bike."

LIAR. Those are YOUR words, not mine.

There are numerous threads which you have started, or responded to
with your well worn "Evolution in action!" riff regarding someone's
death or injury while riding a bike off road, while riding an off road
bike, or even being a noted off road rider. Your mocking of other
people’s injury or death is disgusting, rude, and tasteless to say the
least.

BS. I just want to educate. You are the one fighting to preserve your
considerable ignorance.

I disagree. Your assertion is that I am willingly or willfully
remaining ignorant about the environmental hazards of off road riding.
Instead, I am aware of them, and they are no more hazardous than
hiking. Try taking this up with golfers, who have a much bigger and
measurable impact on the ecology of land near golf courses.

You have never presented a single fact to support mountain biking.

Which is not really an issue since you will probably just call the
author a liar, not respond to the cited source, or ignore the whole
thing.

I've presented hundreds of facts that condemn
mountain biking for harming people & the environment.

I would not call them facts at all. You do not cite your sources, or
you cite yourself as a source which is a lot like a snake eating it's
tail.

Chris
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande